From The Guardian.

 

The super-rich are preparing to immediately leave the UK if Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister, fearing they will lose billions of pounds if the Labour leader does “go after” the wealthy elite with new taxes, possible capital controls and a clampdown on private schools.

 

Lawyers and accountants for the UK’s richest families said they had been deluged with calls from millionaire and billionaire clients asking for help and advice on moving countries, shifting their fortunes offshore and making early gifts to their children to avoid the Labour leader’s threat to tax all inheritances above £125,000.

 

The advisers said a Corbyn-led government was viewed as a far greater threat to the wealth and quality of life of the richest 1% than a hard Brexit.

 

Geoffrey Todd, a partner at the law firm Boodle Hatfield, said many of his clients had already put plans in place to transfer their wealth out of the country within minutes if Corbyn is elected.

 

“Lots of high-net worth individuals are worried about having to pay much higher taxes on their wealth and have already prepared for the possibility of a Corbyn government,” he said. “Transfers of wealth are already arranged – in many cases, all that is missing is a signature on the contract.

 

 

Yeah exactly....the TOP 1% Boohoo

It doesn't bother me but most people don't want their taxes to rise.

 

Hope your head's okay. :o

 

 

If my taxes are put to good justifiable use(e.g. improving vital services, addressing equality) then I am prepared to pay more.

It doesn't bother me but most people don't want their taxes to rise.

 

Hope your head's okay. :o

If I didn’t want my taxes to rise I wouldn’t be about to move to Germany. I am however prepared to pay my way in society to benefit from good healthcare and good public services. These need paid from somewhere, if I can afford to contribute a little more then I am happy to be doing so. I have benefited from the public purse to get me where I am now, now that I’ve been a rare social climber from working class into the middle classes damn right I’m gonna do my utmost to help more up that ladder

Well Labour will have to raise taxes somewhere to pay for their 5 years of promises.

Whereas Johnson's spending promises will be funded from the magic money tree.

If my taxes are put to good justifiable use(e.g. improving vital services, addressing equality) then I am prepared to pay more.

 

Funnily enough, you can make voluntary donations to help reduce the national debt if you so wish through the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt. In 2018/2019, a whopping grand total of £11,069 was donated to the Treasury in order to help towards reducing the national debt. I'm guessing the reason for this is because it isn't well publicised to the general public that you can do that, and not because people feel less happy about paying tax if they have to directly send the money to HRMC rather than have it deducted from their gross salary. I've somewhat suspected that if PAYE did not exist, and everyone had to physically write and send a check for their taxes/NI every month, then Conservatives would never lose an election.

Funnily enough, you can make voluntary donations to help reduce the national debt if you so wish through the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt. In 2018/2019, a whopping grand total of £11,069 was donated to the Treasury in order to help towards reducing the national debt. I'm guessing the reason for this is because it isn't well publicised to the general public that you can do that, and not because people are feel less happy about paying tax if they have to directly send the money to HRMC rather than have it deducted from their gross salary. I've somewhat suspected that if PAYE did not exist, and everyone had to physically write and send a check for their taxes/NI every month, then Conservatives would never lose an election.

 

I never knew about that. Wonder if Suedy did.

Jeremy Corbyn is the most smeared politician in history. Over 75 percent of Jeremy Corbyn media coverage factually misrepresents him

 

Highly biased and partisan reporting has become somewhat of the norm in the UK press. Such is the power of this reporting, there has been visible shifts in attitudes to previously very normal ideas.

 

Socialist concepts such as the NHS, free education for all, and social security may be proud British institutions that reflect our sense of fairness and values. Yet the UK press has succeeded in making ‘socialism’ a dirty word.

 

Ask someone in the UK if they support the NHS, or free education for children, and nine times out of ten they’ll say ‘of course’. Ask them if they agree with democratic socialism and you’d wonder if you had just insulted their mother. The two are the same thing.

No other politician in the UK has faced the sheer volume of smear that Corbyn has. This article by the Independent calculated that 75 per cent of all press coverage of Jeremy Corbyn, factually misrepresented him.

 

When studying the last half century of political smears, Corbyn tops the chart. Smear campaigns agains him, in terms of volume, makes the national newspaper attacks on the likes of Neil Kinnock, Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband look like April Fools jokes.

 

Ask ten people over thirty what they think of Jeremy Corbyn, and chances are you’ll hear some pretty damning responses. But interestingly, most of the negative responses merely parrot headlines seen in the Mail, Sun, Express and Telegraph. You’re hard pushed to hear something new.

 

Corbyn hasn’t even been safe from the ‘bastion of independent journalism’ the BBC. The London Economic reported news that one of Britain’s leading barristers has evidence of BBC bias against Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. Jolyon Maugham QC, director of the Good Law Project alleged that the BBC has indulged in showing “coded negative imagery” of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn since his election in 2015. Even this week, BBC Panorama produced what is widely regarded as a hatchet job on Jeremy Corbyn and anti-Semitism within the Labour party.

 

Great article, neatly explaining the problem with media bias that comes up here regularly and how it has been specifically used to target Corbyn. Made some of the best excerpts; there are plenty of sources linked in the article.

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Soo he waited until now. Pfft. Designed for maximum damage.

Always thought Tom was okay. Would have made a better Leader than Corbyn.

Soo he waited until now. Pfft. Designed for maximum damage.

 

How so? It's crucially NOT a gaffe, something the Tories have been headline grabbing hugely over the last two days, so it puts Labour back on the front pages during Tory campaign launch with a surprisingly non-negative story in contrast to the Tory gaffes, and it a) gets any clashes he may have with Corbyn out of the way for the rest of the campaign, any sense of dissent because of his quitting will be long forgotten by polling day and b) allows him to say complimentary things about Corbyn in official resignation letters. Seems fine to me.

 

Deputy Leaders have to be decided by vote I believe so I'm not sure what they can do to officially replace his position at this point but having someone like Starmer effectively take over this role would really help.

Jeremy Corbyn is the most smeared politician in history. Over 75 percent of Jeremy Corbyn media coverage factually misrepresents him[/url]

 

So are you saying that 25% of smears are still true? :teresa:

 

Are all reports on politicians smears? No. If you aren't going to read the article to find out where the title comes from then I can't really help you.

 

The article from which that figure comes:

Our rigorous and statistically representative analysis concluded that when it comes to the coverage of Corbyn in his role as leader of the opposition, the majority of the press did not act as a critical watchdog of the powers that be, but rather more often as an antagonistic attackdog.

 

Over half of the news articles were critical or antagonistic in tone, compared to two thirds of all editorials and opinion pieces. Besides the almost total lack of support in the latter, especially in the rightwing media, the high level of negativity in the news reporting struck us as noteworthy here. According to the Independent Press Standards Organization (IPSO), newspapers are obliged to ‘make a clear distinction between comment, conjecture and fact’ and this also did not apply to Corbyn. Furthermore, Corbyn’s voice is often absent in the reporting on him, and when it is present it is often presented in a highly distorted way. In terms of the news sources used in the articles, the civil war within Labour is very enthusiastically amplified.

 

100% of 75% of coverage is a misrepresentation. Which means that it is more likely than not that the image of the man you have read about is fiction, pushed by media editors who want you to accept a different image of Corbyn from what he actually is, because they fear what will happen to them should he get into power. Pretty easy motive spotting I have to say.

 

Follow his Twitter, read press coverage from the Labour press office, cast out your pre-framed ideas based on what you have read, THEN make up your mind - and that's meant for everyone, including to those reading, give that to your parents if they spout off unsubstantiated fears.

Are all reports on politicians smears? No. If you aren't going to read the article to find out where the title comes from then I can't really help you.

 

Well, *you* didn't read my smiley... :P

 

100% of 75% of coverage is a misrepresentation. Which means that it is more likely than not that the image of the man you have read about is fiction, pushed by media editors who want you to accept a different image of Corbyn from what he actually is, because they fear what will happen to them should he get into power. Pretty easy motive spotting I have to say.

 

Follow his Twitter, read press coverage from the Labour press office, cast out your pre-framed ideas based on what you have read, THEN make up your mind - and that's meant for everyone, including to those reading, give that to your parents if they spout off unsubstantiated fears.

 

But print media, unlike TV, doesn't have to be unbiased in their coverage.

 

There's no way to stop newspapers from publishing articles with a particular slant - that being the case, just ignore the articles you don't like, like everyone else does. Even if they're 'fake news' all you can do is call them out on it, you can't stop them publishing it.

 

And BTW, neither of my parents are still alive.

 

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Also I seriously doubt Corbyn is the *most* smeared in history - Trump is at least as much a target for allegations, both fake and real. and even the real ones are spun as much as possible..

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DELETED. Double post.

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Former Labour Minister Ian Austin tells voter to back Boris. He says Corbyn's unfit to be PM.

 

Ian Austin was a Labour member for more than 35 years until he quit the party in February.

 

He says the decision to turn his back on the party he loved was the most difficult of his life, but necessary due to his despair over the direction it has taken under Jeremy Corbyn.

 

Now Mr Austin has sacrificed his political career in his efforts to keep the Labour leader out of power – by standing down from his Dudley North seat and endorsing the Tories.

 

He says he has some fantastic memories of his 14 years as an MP, during which he built a reputation for speaking his mind.

 

He is also a man who wears his heart on his sleeve.

 

 

In 2006 he was reprimanded by the Speaker for heckling during PMQs, and was subsequently described as one of Gordon Brown’s “boot boys” by David Cameron.

 

He was reprimanded again in July 2016 for calling Jeremy Corbyn “a disgrace” and telling him to “sit down and shut up” as the Labour leader criticised the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

 

That episode would be the start of his detachment from the Labour Party, as the realisation dawned on him that the party he had supported all his life had gone, perhaps never to return.

 

He said: “I only ever wanted to be the Labour MP for Dudley.

 

“But I always tell local people the truth and could never ask them to make Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minister.”

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Ian Austin looked very upset on Sky News just now, almost a broken man, but says he cannot campaign for Labour to be elected under Corbyn. Good principled man then.

 

He said he can't say that the Tories aren't fit to run the country but doesn't agree with everything they do.

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Former Labour Minister Ian Austin tells voter to back Boris. He says Corbyn's unfit to be PM.

 

Ian Austin was a Labour member for more than 35 years until he quit the party in February.

 

He says the decision to turn his back on the party he loved was the most difficult of his life, but necessary due to his despair over the direction it has taken under Jeremy Corbyn.

 

Now Mr Austin has sacrificed his political career in his efforts to keep the Labour leader out of power – by standing down from his Dudley North seat and endorsing the Tories.

 

He says he has some fantastic memories of his 14 years as an MP, during which he built a reputation for speaking his mind.

 

He is also a man who wears his heart on his sleeve.

In 2006 he was reprimanded by the Speaker for heckling during PMQs, and was subsequently described as one of Gordon Brown’s “boot boys” by David Cameron.

 

He was reprimanded again in July 2016 for calling Jeremy Corbyn “a disgrace” and telling him to “sit down and shut up” as the Labour leader criticised the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

 

That episode would be the start of his detachment from the Labour Party, as the realisation dawned on him that the party he had supported all his life had gone, perhaps never to return.

 

He said: “I only ever wanted to be the Labour MP for Dudley.

 

“But I always tell local people the truth and could never ask them to make Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minister.”

 

Interesting how BBC or Sky aren’t running this story as headline news today also.

 

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Ken Clarke, now THAT'S an example of a principled man!

Interesting how BBC or Sky aren’t running this story as headline news today also.

 

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That's because one of them is a former Cabinet minister with high name recognition while the other is a little-known former junior minister. Oh, hang on...