Here's a radical idea....

 

...from the alternate universe man who is now running the alternate universe UK in an election he won in 2015 in a non-Brexit universe.

 

 

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There is another point: #PeoplesVote is the way to preserve public confidence in an age called post-truth. The 2016 Brexit offer was a lie. The real option(s) should be on the table."

Flipping it over to this thread. I think lack of communication with other parties and MP's voting with the government against party policy comes over as foot-shooting despite the sleight of hand trying to shift the blame. Immediately, and without mentioning Hoey, Lewie & Dewie.

KAte Hooey is a total disgrace- she apparently 'represents' Vauxhall, where 77.6% voted Remain, and yet she staunchly supports the government's pro-Brexit amendments and bills at every turn.

 

Not sure Corbyn can control them given he rebelled pretty much all the time against the Labour governments of 1997-2010.

KAte Hooey is a total disgrace- she apparently 'represents' Vauxhall, where 77.6% voted Remain, and yet she staunchly supports the government's pro-Brexit amendments and bills at every turn.

 

Not sure Corbyn can control them given he rebelled pretty much all the time against the Labour governments of 1997-2010.

 

I think you're probably right, and The Beast of Bolsover has always been a stroppy get - or as I used to call it back in the 70's when I lived in Mansfield and had the accent, "mekkin a' compleet bolls ovverit"

KAte Hooey is a total disgrace- she apparently 'represents' Vauxhall, where 77.6% voted Remain, and yet she staunchly supports the government's pro-Brexit amendments and bills at every turn.

 

Not sure Corbyn can control them given he rebelled pretty much all the time against the Labour governments of 1997-2010.

That remains a major problem for Corbyn. It is hard for one of the least loyal of MPs to demand loyalty from others now that the boot is on the other foot.

So in Labour news today -

 

John Woodcock, a major critic of Jeremy Corbyn, has resigned from the Labour Party after being suspended from the party a few months back. The uber-Corbynites were no fan of him, quite possibly because his partner is an Associate Editor of The Spectator.

 

Margaret Hodge called Jeremy Corbyn anti-Semetic, and allegedly swore at him as well. Subsequently, a complaint was made and action is to be taken against her swiftly. Labour must have really improved their complaints system, as it took months for them to take action against friend of Hitler, Ken Livingstone, yet now they can do so in a matter of hours when it's someone who criticises Mr Corbyn.

So in Labour news today -

 

John Woodcock, a major critic of Jeremy Corbyn, has resigned from the Labour Party after being suspended from the party a few months back. The uber-Corbynites were no fan of him, quite possibly because his partner is an Associate Editor of The Spectator.

 

Margaret Hodge called Jeremy Corbyn anti-Semetic, and allegedly swore at him as well. Subsequently, a complaint was made and action is to be taken against her swiftly. Labour must have really improved their complaints system, as it took months for them to take action against friend of Hitler, Ken Livingstone, yet now they can do so in a matter of hours when it's someone who criticises Mr Corbyn.

 

bang goes another 2 MP's. Doing all you can to help the Tory majority, jezza? Poetic justice some might call it, having moaning disloyal MP's whinging about you all the time. Tony Blair may have a few tips on how to deal with Labour MP's slagging you off?

 

 

of course there are other views amongst Labour MP's than the Corbynites:

 

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So let’s get this straight: Margaret Hodge, whose relatives were murdered in the Holocaust, raises concerns about racism towards her community in our party. Instead of engaging with her concerns,supposed party supporters seek to tear her character apart.Are these people for real?"

 

A good friend and otherwise lovely sane Labour Councillor seems to have fallen foul of this general view being circulated in the Labour Party that anybody standing up for what's right is a "traitor" or a "self-publicist". I am utterly convinced there is some sort of whipped-up self-perpetuating mass hysteria going on where calmness and reason have fallen victim, and been replaced with vitriol, intolerance and general ongoing moaning and complaining and blame-shifting rather than facing up to reality. A bit like Brexit, then.

So let’s get this straight: Margaret Hodge, whose relatives were murdered in the Holocaust, raises concerns about racism towards her community in our party. Instead of engaging with her concerns,supposed party supporters seek to tear her character apart.Are these people for real?"

 

A good friend and otherwise lovely sane Labour Councillor seems to have fallen foul of this general view being circulated in the Labour Party that anybody standing up for what's right is a "traitor" or a "self-publicist". I am utterly convinced there is some sort of whipped-up self-perpetuating mass hysteria going on where calmness and reason have fallen victim, and been replaced with vitriol, intolerance and general ongoing moaning and complaining and blame-shifting rather than facing up to reality. A bit like Brexit, then.

 

Party loyalty is one thing, but when it is used as an excuse not to stamp down on views utterly abhorrent to the wider electorate, it can only be counter-productive.

The Labour MP for Peterborough, Fiona Onsanya, has been charged with perverting the course of justice, and will stand trial next month. Labour won the seat from the Conservatives with a majority of less than 1000, so Labour will be hoping she isn't convicted.

I believe Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce both got 8 months once convicted. Perverting the course of justice is always treated very harshly (they basically throw the book at you) and I expect if convicted there would be a custodial sentence. Basically, don't ever lie to the courts!

The Labour MP for Peterborough, Fiona Onsanya, has been charged with perverting the course of justice, and will stand trial next month. Labour won the seat from the Conservatives with a majority of less than 1000, so Labour will be hoping she isn't convicted.

 

so that's one DUP and one Labour not voting at the next set of Brexit wrangling....?

The Labour MP for Peterborough, Fiona Onsanya, has been charged with perverting the course of justice, and will stand trial next month. Labour won the seat from the Conservatives with a majority of less than 1000, so Labour will be hoping she isn't convicted.

 

That could cause a potentially very interesting by-election... :thinking:

 

"The Vauxhall constituency CLP have passed a vote of "NO CONFIDENCE IN KATE HOEY" tonight "UNANIMOUSLY!""

 

Hmmmm. I'm in Vauxhall tonight and Saturday night. I wonder if the streets will be flooded with her bitter tears.....

 

I'm sorry but what did she expect?

"The Vauxhall constituency CLP have passed a vote of "NO CONFIDENCE IN KATE HOEY" tonight "UNANIMOUSLY!""

 

Hmmmm. I'm in Vauxhall tonight and Saturday night. I wonder if the streets will be flooded with her bitter tears.....

Is this the first step towards recalling her?

Is this the first step towards recalling her?

She can't be recalled unless she breaks parliamentary rules. There are no rules against making an idiot of yourself.

Is this the first step towards recalling her?

 

I doubt she'd meet the criteria...

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30184066

Thanks guys. Wasn’t 100% on what they’d finally passed in the end so thanks for sharing and clearing that up

She will be deselected for the next election.