If people happen to be listening to the same songs for weeks on end, then the charts should reflect that. Accuracy is more important than having a 'fun' chart.

He seems to be working on the assumption that all radio stations have a playlist as varied as Radio 1.

 

He has a point about streaming playlists though. His comments reflect my remarks in last Friday's commentary. OTOH, I do sometimes look at the playlists in search of something new.

I could get on board if BBC Radio 6Music airplay was the ONLY airplay included.

Edited July 12, 20169 yr by Doctor Blind

I could get on board if BBC Radio 6Music airplay was the ONLY airplay included.

Now THAT would be a great chart :cheer:

Neither.

Neither? Well done, you've equalled Drake's streams total :lol:

If people happen to be listening to the same songs for weeks on end, then the charts should reflect that. Accuracy is more important than having a 'fun' chart.

 

So were the first 62 years of the chart inaccurate then?

It would be great to see Catfish and The Bottlemen, Slaves or Bring Me The Horizon etc. singles in the lower end of the top 40 which might happen as these bands are commonly A listed by Radio 1. It would give rock music more of a chance of reaching the top 40.

 

Airplay defines the music of a time as much as the charts for example 'High With Emotion' by Thomas Falke I remember hearing a lot in early 2005 and it didn't reach the top 40. Likewise those dubstep tunes in 2011 and 2012 that got a lot of airplay but didn't reach the top 40 (Holdin' On, Bonfire, Wild For the Night etc) and The Strokes' Under Cover of Darkness too, which also defined that time for me.

 

I think adding airplay is a good thing. The only problem is that it makes the charts less legitimate, but if it gives rock bands that make the A list on radio 1 more of a chance of singles chart success than that is a good thing.

that's not really true. There are thousands of other radio stations then Radio 1 and those rock bands won't get so many plays that they could even chart in the top 75 imo.

If I see for example Capital's playlist, it's much more stale, full of the current chart hits and less new music. It would only make the chart more stagnant.

 

PS: just saw others have already answered the same as I :D

Edited July 12, 20169 yr by *Ben*

I could get on board if BBC Radio 6Music airplay was the ONLY airplay included.

"....with new entries this week from...Metronomy and White Denim!" *.*

In my opinion one solution would be fine, and that would be: count the revenue and not sold units like how the German charts work.

 

Add up the revenue of a song/single makes the week, where streaming I would say should count 1p. So to reach the full price (99p), it should be streamed 99 times.

Although the 59p discount wouldn't have such a big effect on a chart but a real big hit (with full price) would have an advantage, also new tracks in full price would have advantage plus physicals would do some difference too :heehee:

 

One more thing: in Germany as far as I know only payed streaming subscriptions count to the charts, free subscriptions not.

Edited July 12, 20169 yr by *Ben*

Taking streaming sales out of the chart won't happen anyway, just make matters worse sales wise, increasing the ratio might help.

Why would adding AirPlay be a good thing???

 

If anything it would give rock bands much LESS singles chart success. Yes, some do get lots of Radio 1 airplay but there are many other stations as well that only play hit/chart/MoR music (Capital, Kiss, Heart etc.)

 

It would be good for dance music though, streaming being introduced stopped as many dance tracks entering the chart after so many entering in early 2015. The likes of 'Piece of Me' and 'Freak Like Me' at the minute would benefit from it.

I had hope when I saw the first few words of the title, wtf though :lol: Not a problem to worry about luckily.

I would only support AirPlay if streaming was removed from the charts, if streaming was also removed I would also support TV plays being added as well.

If people happen to be listening to the same songs for weeks on end, then the charts should reflect that. Accuracy is more important than having a 'fun' chart.

 

There are so few new entries these days compared to the last decade or even 2010-early 2015 when 8 new entries a week was not uncommon.

 

Somebody should do the stats but there has been fewer new entries in the chart for the first half of this year than I can ever remember, I wonder when the last time there was as few new entries.

It would be good for dance music though, streaming being introduced stopped as many dance tracks entering the chart after so many entering in early 2015. The likes of 'Piece of Me' and 'Freak Like Me' at the minute would benefit from it.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think those two tracks had enough plays to make it to the top 40? Don't forget that the tracks above them had also many plays.

So were the first 62 years of the chart inaccurate then?

Certainly not, though I would be curious to see what it would look like if such monitoring was possible. Especially in those periods around the late '90s/early '00s where even the biggest hits were often gone from the charts in a flash.

Isn't he totally contradicting himself? He objects to including streams from curated playlists because it's akin to radio airplay - but wants radio airplay to be included?

not counting streams from playlists and only counting proper streams could be a solution to make the charts faster...

or count only the first time a song is streamed...

or count only paid subscribers

I personally think any of the 3 above would work to make the charts faster without the need to add airplay

It would be great to see Catfish and The Bottlemen, Slaves or Bring Me The Horizon etc. singles in the lower end of the top 40 which might happen as these bands are commonly A listed by Radio 1. It would give rock music more of a chance of reaching the top 40.

 

Airplay defines the music of a time as much as the charts for example 'High With Emotion' by Thomas Falke I remember hearing a lot in early 2005 and it didn't reach the top 40. Likewise those dubstep tunes in 2011 and 2012 that got a lot of airplay but didn't reach the top 40 (Holdin' On, Bonfire, Wild For the Night etc) and The Strokes' Under Cover of Darkness too, which also defined that time for me.

 

I think adding airplay is a good thing. The only problem is that it makes the charts less legitimate, but if it gives rock bands that make the A list on radio 1 more of a chance of singles chart success than that is a good thing.

 

If one of these indie bands did release a song that got a listed on radio 1 and actually caught the publics imagination they would develop into hits but they mainly don't!! That said I do think it's good radio 1 gives them heavy rotation as popularity isn't just about chart position it's about album sales, ticket sales and buzz amongst other things. Radio 1 giving them spins is a good thing for choice and makes it stand out amongst the commercial channels.

 

Is there a reason people keep spelling 'airplay' as 'AirPlay'?

 

That is my only contribution to this thread. x