Can't stand Chris Brown. Sorry but if you are playing the song you are supporting and validating that what they did in the past or who they are doesn't matter, because you're still giving them $ and exposure.

 

I feel the same about XXXTentacion.

I don't think playing one song, about body-swapping with a guy called Lil Dicky, is anything remotely like supporting his actions of beating Rihanna up. I understand people being reluctant to go near Chris Brown's music after what happened, but to say that anyone who likes his music is validating his past actions is quite frankly ludicrous.

 

For the record: I think he's a repugnant human but, as I've said before, I find this song quite enjoyable. Doesn't mean I support his actions against Rihanna (cause I really, really don't)

Saw this the other day and thought the video was okay, the song was terrible and the cheapness of throwing in loads of random cameos just for the sake of it was what decided its fate for me. TRASH

I don't think playing one song, about body-swapping with a guy called Lil Dicky, is anything remotely like supporting his actions of beating Rihanna up. I understand people being reluctant to go near Chris Brown's music after what happened, but to say that anyone who likes his music is validating his past actions is quite frankly ludicrous.

 

For the record: I think he's a repugnant human but, as I've said before, I find this song quite enjoyable. Doesn't mean I support his actions against Rihanna (cause I really, really don't)

 

I think many people are taking this song and who is involved too serious and aren’t looking at it for what it is - a joke.

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I don't think playing one song, about body-swapping with a guy called Lil Dicky, is anything remotely like supporting his actions of beating Rihanna up. I understand people being reluctant to go near Chris Brown's music after what happened, but to say that anyone who likes his music is validating his past actions is quite frankly ludicrous.

 

For the record: I think he's a repugnant human but, as I've said before, I find this song quite enjoyable. Doesn't mean I support his actions against Rihanna (cause I really, really don't)

 

Supporting not in the sense of "I think its great!" but in the sense of supporting his career, like paying support.

Musicians' whole careers are built on the back of people playing and sharing their songs, and buying them too. The only reason people like Chris Brown still have a career is because people keep consuming their music and just looking the other way about what they did in their personal life.

Can't stand Chris Brown. Sorry but if you are playing the song you are supporting and validating that what they did in the past or who they are doesn't matter, because you're still giving them $ and exposure.

 

I feel the same about XXXTentacion.

 

Cheryl assaulted a woman in a nightclub early in her career but I don't see people bringing that up every time she has a new song out

Supporting not in the sense of "I think its great!" but in the sense of supporting his career, like paying support.

Musicians' whole careers are built on the back of people playing and sharing their songs, and buying them too. The only reason people like Chris Brown still have a career is because people keep consuming their music and just looking the other way about what they did in their personal life.

Exactly - I know no one actually agrees with what he's done but we are actually supporting him if we legally stream/download the song by giving him money effectively. If you're doing it illegally, absolutely fine, you do you. I just think there are SO many other artists who haven't beaten women or homophobic past, can we not with Chris Brown? :lol:

 

I know people will think it's preachy or overly sensitive, but I really don't care. He doesn't deserve a single penny and should be in the same boat as someone like Iggy.

 

And regarding Cheryl, I don't think that's comparable really - she didn't nearly kill the woman as far as I'm aware and hasn't had any further incidents since then. I don't condone her actions either.

Cheryl assaulted a woman in a nightclub early in her career but I don't see people bringing that up every time she has a new song out

Actually, I seem to recall quite a few people (especially at the start of her solo career) mentioning it. Not to the extent, granted, but as Jack said (although obviously not condoning what she did at all) but she didn't nearly kill the woman.

 

But yeah, my problem isn't people actually liking the song (I'm sure if/when I do listen to the song, I'll probs enjoy it - especially if it's similar to DJ Mustard)... it just baffles me to see that he still has any sort of career in 2018 and seeing radio support him.

 

What's even worse is, I see his rabid fanbase either saying stuff like "she got what she deserved" or trying to come up with some poor, lame ass excuse for what he did. I just don't get why he gets a free pass, when others (rightfully) haven't.

Yeah, but was your first thought not "why is Chris Brown waking up in his own body?"

Cremey has pretty much summed it up, besides, I don’t understand Korean but I enjoy plenty of K-Pop.

 

As for the argument about listening to Freaky Friday being some kind of offence, I’m just not with it. I wouldn’t ever buy a Chris Brown song, I’m not a fan and I wouldn’t say I support him because of how he is as a human but I don’t find it difficult to seperate thinking “I like this song” and whoever the artist is behind it. This thread has been a fair example of how you can pick and choose what factors as something that would stop you listening to someone’s music. For example, Jonjo, you literally just won BJSC with a song just recently produced by Dr Luke, and the artist behind it is his new project. I’m not saying this is an issue, I’m not gonna stop listening to Teenage Dream because he’s a vile excuse for a man.

 

I think there’s a difference between supporting an artist and listening/enjoying songs of theirs.

I do think a line needs to be drawn between artist and the art work, if we didn't, then we wouldn't be able to enjoy some of the greatest works of art in history. A lot of the world's most famous film directors (Alfred Hitchcock, Roman Polanski etc.) had dodgy pasts many of which were shown recently, does enjoying and paying for their film condone that? I don't think so, it's simple appreciation of the art form. Granted it can sometimes be too heinous an act that redemption isn't possible (ie. Gary Glitter), but it takes a very extreme case for that to happen.

 

Chris Brown is a vile human being and I don't by any means condone his actions at all (I don't even like this song, I just find the concept and video amusing) and I definitely don't agree with how he hasn't suffered any repercussions for it in terms of his career, but I hate a lot of his music purely because it's rubbish not because of who's behind it, and I don't think those that do enjoy and pay for his music should be made to feel guilty for simply appreciating it as a single piece of work.

Just for the record, I'm not saying people should feel bad if they like the song. I do too! I just don't think he deserves to be getting any payola at all and his career should be in the pits.

For the record as well, I'm just saying my own personal opinion. I'm not going to come after someone else for liking and listening to the song, I'm not God to control what other people choose to do. It's just a line I personally don't feel comfortable crossing. There's plenty other music out there that I'm not gonna miss out by avoiding the output of an artist I dislike due to their actions.

 

Although I do find it distasteful that the song chose Chris Brown and seems to be trying to sweep his past under the rug in a self-aware way. You couldn'tve chose any of the other big R&B stars to write a comedy song about? The cynic in me suspects they might be courting the controversy deliberately.

Cremey has pretty much summed it up, besides, I don’t understand Korean but I enjoy plenty of K-Pop.

 

As for the argument about listening to Freaky Friday being some kind of offence, I’m just not with it. I wouldn’t ever buy a Chris Brown song, I’m not a fan and I wouldn’t say I support him because of how he is as a human but I don’t find it difficult to seperate thinking “I like this song” and whoever the artist is behind it. This thread has been a fair example of how you can pick and choose what factors as something that would stop you listening to someone’s music. For example, Jonjo, you literally just won BJSC with a song just recently produced by Dr Luke, and the artist behind it is his new project. I’m not saying this is an issue, I’m not gonna stop listening to Teenage Dream because he’s a vile excuse for a man.

 

I think there’s a difference between supporting an artist and listening/enjoying songs of theirs.

BITCH STFU!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

JK!!! :P I get what you mean and I agree with you. Sorry to anyone if I've made them feel bad for liking the song or whatever, that genuinely wasn't/isn't my intention (and I never agreed with the poster that says if you listen to it you're condoning it etc...) I am someone who likes to seperate the artist from the art a lot of the time (I was just saying I think it's harder to seperate music artists from their art, than it is for an actor in a film for example)

 

It's just frustrating that it's him getting a hit and it infuriates me that he seemingly has fans who defend his actions (not you guys, I know where you guys stand in regards to him, always have done) which is away from him as an artist (if that makes sense :lol:)

 

Also, I genuinely had no idea Dr Luke had any involvement with that song haha. :ph34r: But again, I think it's more just down to me investing in the artists more than being bothered about who produced it/the creative process behind it in general. Haha.

Well, this is a cool idea for a song, the Freaky Friday stuff is at least somewhat original. The video's fairly funny. It's not all that bad musically considering who's singing on it, one of my least favourite singers in music, all actions aside. Probably wouldn't come back to it without the video, it seems like something that would normally just get a brief period of recognition and die just like most comedy songs so it apparently going to be a hit is weird.

 

Other than that, pretty terrible. Could have been so many people other than Chris Brown to do this with and his involvement just makes some of the lyrics really uncomfortable.

 

Although I do find it distasteful that the song chose Chris Brown and seems to be trying to sweep his past under the rug in a self-aware way. You couldn'tve chose any of the other big R&B stars to write a comedy song about? The cynic in me suspects they might be courting the controversy deliberately.

 

I completely agree, on all counts.

Honestly it's Lil Dicky that bothers me more than Chris Brown. Hated his infantile sense of humour since the first time I came across it years ago. But more bothersome is the fact that he's a white dude blowing up in a black art form, but rather than take that to heart and be weary of it (something I can at least respect Macklemore for), he openly mocks the genre, further perpetuating negative stereotypes in hip hop for white audiences. It's not quite blackface but it's pretty reprehensible what he's doing.

I think many people are taking this song and who is involved too serious and aren’t looking at it for what it is - a joke.

I was about to say this. Dexton knows it.

Honestly it's Lil Dicky that bothers me more than Chris Brown. Hated his infantile sense of humour since the first time I came across it years ago. But more bothersome is the fact that he's a white dude blowing up in a black art form, but rather than take that to heart and be weary of it (something I can at least respect Macklemore for), he openly mocks the genre, further perpetuating negative stereotypes in hip hop for white audiences. It's not quite blackface but it's pretty reprehensible what he's doing.

But artists such as Chris Brown and Fetty Wap are collaborating with him, perhaps you're reading too much into it?

But artists such as Chris Brown and Fetty Wap are collaborating with him, perhaps you're reading too much into it?

That'd be like saying the US president isn't misogynistic because (many) women voted for him though.

That'd be like saying the US president isn't misogynistic because (many) women voted for him though.

I disagree. I think bringing race into everything really needs to stop as well.

The meltdowns over this song are unreal to be honest. It's a song, some people like it and some people don't. Is it so much of a disaster that it's at number one? if you're not happy about it getting to number one then take a break from the charts.

I disagree. I think bringing race into everything really needs to stop as well.

That makes it sound like you're more offended by the notion of someone calling out racism than racism itself. I'm just always reminded of people like Lil Dicky whenever I see something hated on because it's not gentrified enough for mass audience consumption. I feel like people decide to hate things without really thinking why it is they do, and start using things like that to justify their stance.