Anyone who thinks that Labour under Corbyn is the answer is a f***ing weapons grade moron. He’s as happy to leave as farage et al

 

 

The answer is the reunification of Ireland and Scottish Independence. Then Brexit supporting England and Wales get to have their backward racist little party

Here we have a list of anti EU headlines by the papers. These headlines were all LIES.

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/the-...yOb3lXOTXp_DX_U

 

This is why Brexiters, even our own resident Brexiters, we know the two, can't name a single negative EU law. It is just constant brainwashing and EU blame from the Murdoch press.

 

And here we have a LONG article by Campbell that details juat why Victorian Smogg gets his chuffies so much to Brexit. Like his father, he believes in some dystopian chaotic individualistic state with "left behinds" being the casualty:

 

 

https://alastaircampbell.org/2018/08/the-mo...RU44YfC7bG5sEx0

 

He and his family could literally be Bond villains.

 

Meanwhile, Brexiters are LITERALLY posting: I WANT MY BREXIT! and I VOTED LEAVE, SO LEAVE! today. They sound like toddler tantrums.

 

Here we have a list of anti EU headlines by the papers. These headlines were all LIES.

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/the-...yOb3lXOTXp_DX_U

 

This is why Brexiters, even our own resident Brexiters, we know the two, can't name a single negative EU law. It is just constant brainwashing and EU blame from the Murdoch press.

 

And here we have a LONG article by Campbell that details juat why Victorian Smogg gets his chuffies so much to Brexit. Like his father, he believes in some dystopian chaotic individualistic state with "left behinds" being the casualty:

https://alastaircampbell.org/2018/08/the-mo...RU44YfC7bG5sEx0

 

He and his family could literally be Bond villains.

 

Meanwhile, Brexiters are LITERALLY posting: I WANT MY BREXIT! and I VOTED LEAVE, SO LEAVE! today. They sound like toddler tantrums.

 

The best headline surely has to be the Daily Mail... if you can tell there is a new editor!

 

Anyway I can't see May going right now, the Brexiteers are vying for the leadership but I don't think there is enough support. Surely if there was there would have been far more letters by now. Let's be honest as much as people don't like May (I am no huge fan), right now she is the only thing standing in the way of a complete disaster gaining control of the country.

I shouldn't laugh at The Sun or give it any credit, but "we're in the Brexshit" did make me chuckle :lol:

 

In all this mess, it's all we can really do to have a laugh at some of the memes, if you don't laugh you'd cry and all that...

Blame the brainwashed who voted Tory for this.

 

Are we talking 2015 or 2017?

 

Blame the Blairites. Thanks to Corbyn we can deselect them now.

 

She is fighting for the deal :rofl: This is gonna be a wild ride

 

Even at the height of Thatcherism (1983) , a hard-line Labour government had little appeal to voters, so why should Corbyn's version be any more popular?

 

Anyone who thinks that Labour under Corbyn is the answer is a f***ing weapons grade moron. He’s as happy to leave as farage et al

The answer is the reunification of Ireland and Scottish Independence. Then Brexit supporting England and Wales get to have their backward racist little party

 

Hardly - the BNP appeal only to knuckle=dragging morons...

Rumours going around that the mythical 48 no-confidence votes have been submitted, which makes a challenge for the leadership all the more likely.

I went to Poland for 27 hours and all hell broke loose. What the f*** just happened?!

 

 

I’m still hoping for a remain outcome (don’t respond vidcapper am not interested in your delusional rambling about democracy when the last thing that the first vote was is democratic) but if this all hits the fan then I have today firmed up my escape plan to come back to Germany permanently post-March 2019

So glad the chaotic Miliband government never happened and we got years of strong and stable instead! So glad the Brexit Shambles of Labour the Tories promised in ads never happened and their strong and stable vision did instead!

Amber Rudderless has been appointed Work and Pensions Secretary to replace Either McVey, just months after she was forced to quit as Home Secretary because of May's mistakes. Older members will remember Labour ministers who returned after just a few months being asked whether they would be returning any of the pay-off they got when they resigned.

So glad the chaotic Miliband government never happened and we got years of strong and stable instead! So glad the Brexit Shambles of Labour the Tories promised in ads never happened and their strong and stable vision did instead!

Such a relief, isn't it?

So glad the chaotic Miliband government never happened and we got years of strong and stable instead! So glad the Brexit Shambles of Labour the Tories promised in ads never happened and their strong and stable vision did instead!

 

That's practically abusing sarcasm. :rolleyes:

Amber Rudderless has been appointed Work and Pensions Secretary to replace Either McVey, just months after she was forced to quit as Home Secretary because of May's mistakes. Older members will remember Labour ministers who returned after just a few months being asked whether they would be returning any of the pay-off they got when they resigned.

 

The media will not ask any such questions of Born to Rule Tories!

 

Also the DAMNING UN report into the Tory government and UK poverty is out. Wonder if the Red Cross etc will have to come and give aid relief soon :(

 

Stephen Barclay is the new DExEU minister. I wonder how long he will last.

Disgrace they brought back Amber Rudd after using her as a fall guy to peotect Mad May and the government. It's almost as if her resignation meant nothing and the press knew that all along...

Disgrace they brought back Amber Rudd after using her as a fall guy to peotect Mad May and the government. It's almost as if her resignation meant nothing and the press knew that all along...

It could be seen as an admission that she wasn't the one most to blame in the first place. That's certainly how it would have been portrayed by the Tories and most of the press if it had happened in a Labour government.

Stephen Barclay is the new DExEU minister. I wonder how long he will last.

Quite a while, since he's ultra loyal, very anonymous and with no political clout of his own, and the position no longer covers any area of major contention (the Brexit negotiations having been passed to civil servants).

 

I feel like the chances of this passing parliament is 30% when most believe it will be 3%? For all the noise going on now, I just don't believe that certain factions will actually hold their nerve once we're on the brink of No Deal/Remain/another referendum. I still think that enough will rebel for it to fail to get through (the Tory majority is paper thin, after all), but it's more feasible than many believe.

Agreed with you Harve, there are splits within the ERG - and seemingly not enough MPs willing to put in their letters to force a vote of no confidence (which May would surely win anyway).

 

The most likely (and IMO favourable) outcome remains the Withdrawal Agreement passing, maybe not at first attempt but possibly at second try in the death throws of chaos with the support of the Labour MPs who currently are ironically blaming Corbyn for allowing Brexit to happen.

 

Also to those who keep saying 'Article 50 can be extended' the Tories LITERALLY put 29th March 2019 as the exit date on the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 ... so no dice!

Agreed with you Harve, there are splits within the ERG - and seemingly not enough MPs willing to put in their letters to force a vote of no confidence (which May would surely win anyway).

 

The most likely (and IMO favourable) outcome remains the Withdrawal Agreement passing, maybe not at first attempt but possibly at second try in the death throws of chaos with the support of the Labour MPs who currently are ironically blaming Corbyn for allowing Brexit to happen.

 

Also to those who keep saying 'Article 50 can be extended' the Tories LITERALLY put 29th March 2019 as the exit date on the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 ... so no dice!

That legislation can be amended. That doesn't alter the fact that including the date in the legislation was a stupid idea, even by the standards set by this government.

There are EU elections in May and they have already allocated the UK seats in preparation. It's highly unlikely they will mess up EU voting to satisfy UK ongoing endless infighting which could easily go on eternally. Bear in mind it's the UK who triggered Article 50 before knowing what it was they wanted and created this whole mess, it's the UK who decided to have an election and bring back a minority government delaying discussions for months, it's the UK who appointed a lazy, shiftless, ill-informed minister for Brexit who hardly ever turned up, and it's the UK who still can't agree on anything with 4 months to go.

 

The EU have a very clear of what they agree they want to achieve, and sorted it out fairly quickly after the triggering of A50. That's 27 countries largely agreeing vs one country that can't agree on anything.

 

 

The elections are a definite complication, but it should’t be too difficult to resolve it. Everything you say about the UK being almost entirely responsible for the mess is, of course, perfectly true.