Latest Survation:

 

CON: 27% (-2)

LAB: 24% (-)

LDEM: 22% (+4)

BREX: 16% (-1)

SNP 4%

Grn 3%

 

Highest Lib Dem poll for a decade.

 

Would put the Conservatives on around 280-290 seats, so about where there are now and well short of a majority, Lib Dems up to 45 and Labour down to 240-ish. Just 1 seat for the Brexit Party.

 

At the moment a GE would change little in the HoC (Con gains quite limited but massive losses in Scotland to SNP and S England to the Lib Dems) except perhaps a Lab/Lib/SNP coalition which would likely have a mandate to govern for a short period..

That will do to bring in non-bias laws, get the Tories out, and force reform of the BBTory. Then opinion polls will really start to change.

Latest Survation:

 

CON: 27% (-2)

LAB: 24% (-)

LDEM: 22% (+4)

BREX: 16% (-1)

SNP 4%

Grn 3%

 

Highest Lib Dem poll for a decade.

 

Would put the Conservatives on around 280-290 seats, so about where there are now and well short of a majority, Lib Dems up to 45 and Labour down to 240-ish. Just 1 seat for the Brexit Party.

 

Although this is still very much fan-fiction territory (terrible fan-fiction, but fiction nonetheless), I would be interested to know what constituency that the Brexit Party would win in that scenario. Clacton or South Thanet probably.

And this is before the Labour campaign begins or the impartiality laws come into play to control our one party state media.

Hopefully the Lib Dem surge continues. At the start of the year they were polling ~10%. Now they're consistently polling ~20%. I hope they can move up into 25-30% territory and continue their strong remain stance. Perhaps even surprise during a GE. I'm hoping the Brexit Party will eat into the Con vote and allow surprise wins by the Lib Dems in multiple constituencies come the next GE.

In that scenario you'd think the LDs and laabour could work something out.

And this is before the Labour campaign begins or the impartiality laws come into play to control our one party state media.

 

Impartiality laws don't affect newspapers though, and they still have a very strong influence.

Although this is still very much fan-fiction territory (terrible fan-fiction, but fiction nonetheless), I would be interested to know what constituency that the Brexit Party would win in that scenario. Clacton or South Thanet probably.

 

Thurrock apparently, where UKIP were <1000 away from taking in 2015.

Impartiality laws don't affect newspapers though, and they still have a very strong influence.

 

Affects BBTory! And as we saw in tbe last electiom, 27% - 40%, that's enough x

In that scenario you'd think the LDs and laabour could work something out.

 

Not now Labour is firmly remaining on the fence. If they had moved to back Remain, I think it would have been more likely a deal would have been done to stop the Tories.

Labour are trying to keep voters in different seats happy which is the right thing to do imo!

Labour are trying to keep voters in different seats happy which is the right thing to do imo!

 

It's a daft strategy, they should either come out and say they are all for a Brexit with Customs Union or are pro-Remain. The problem Labour are going to have when it comes to campaigning is they are neither here nor there. Labour's option of leaving the EU with stong ties to the EU is the strategy we should have gone down long ago, but imo the country is too fractured now. The fantastists are all for No Deal and a large percentage of people don't want to leave the EU at all and plausibly see a way out of this whole mess.

 

The election is going to be based on Brexit (unfortunately) and in any campaigning both the Tories and Lib Dems will play off against Labour's stragegy. Of course they don't want to lose a lot of their heartlands, but imo it's probably too late for a lot of these seats, they're Brexit/Tory now.

They are saying they are neutral and will give the country a choice between a soft brexshit or remain.

They are saying they are neutral and will give the country a choice between a soft brexshit or remain.

 

 

They're trying to please everyone and not come down for either side or they'll lose votes.

Problem is by fence sitting they’re haemorrhaging votes left and right and centre. They can broadly afford to lose the right but the centre and left is something they can’t afford if Comrade wants to be PM

They are saying they are neutral and will give the country a choice between a soft brexshit or remain.

 

But a neutral stance does absolutely nothing as both Silas and Common Sense point out. By not leaning to one side they're losing votes to the Lib Dems who are Revoke and to the Brexiteers who will vote Tory or Brexit. I understand their logic, but strategically it's a complete mess as there is no emotion in their campaign. I think if they came out as Remain the Lib Dems might prop them up in to government but only if Corbyn stood down. Lib Dems are doing so well in the polls as they are picking up the Centre swing voter ground.

 

Kate Hoey is actually at the Convervative Party conference :rofl: Why has she not been expelled from the party yet? No idea how she still has the whip.

Is she? Disgraceful!!

 

Not sure the northern seats will vote Tory which is a good thing but they might vote BP!

 

Anyone else just noticed Nigel Farage initials are NF 😂 for National Front!

It's fairly common for MPs of one party to attend events at another party's conference. Actually addressing the conference (not just a fringe meeting) would be a different matter.

Is she? Disgraceful!!

 

Not sure the northern seats will vote Tory which is a good thing but they might vote BP!

 

Anyone else just noticed Nigel Farage initials are NF 😂 for National Front!

 

[Waits to see AQ's comment on that one] :lol:

Is she? Disgraceful!!

 

Not sure the northern seats will vote Tory which is a good thing but they might vote BP!

 

Anyone else just noticed Nigel Farage initials are NF 😂 for National Front!

 

According to some of his boarding school chums, he was WELL aware and bragged about it and would sing Nazi songs.