30th is actually a Thursday.

So this finally gets released this week, are you planning to see it at the cinema?

So this finally gets released this week, are you planning to see it at the cinema?

 

Went to watch the last showing tonight to help keep me up overnight.

 

It's not as bad as some people are making out and there's some genuinely great moments and surprises, and a few good action sequences but it feels like it is exactly the right time to give the whole thing a bit of refresh, which given the ending seems pretty like what will happen with the next one. But it's certainly not on par with the other Daniel Craig era Bond films in my opinions, not that much could come close to Skyfall or Spectre for me. I think it's been severely damaged by having such a long wait for it to come out, if it had been a three year gap between this and the last film in the full knowledge there'd be another one a few years, it might have been passable - it certainly doesn't feel like a film that should have took six years to make.

 

It neglects a lot of the famous bond action in favour of relatively surface level and not all that convincing 'personal trauma' sub plot for Bond that whilst it pays off in the end is all a bit contrived. It's almost trying too hard to be serious and deep at times, it's a Bond film - just show me the chase scenes, ridiculous action sequences and Bond's latest flings. (Although gratuitous shots of women are rather pleasingly replaced frequently by gratuitous shots of Daniel Craig quite a bit in this one - but given there wasn't a single woman in the audience at my screening that might have been to no avail aside from gay men)

Edited October 1, 20213 yr by chartfridays

Really really loved this. Now need to get around to watching the rest of the bond films, having only seen from Quantum of Solace onwards...

Went to watch the last showing tonight to help keep me up overnight.

 

It's not as bad as some people are making out and there's some genuinely great moments and surprises, and a few good action sequences but it feels like it is exactly the right time to give the whole thing a bit of refresh, which given the ending seems pretty like what will happen with the next one. But it's certainly not on par with the other Daniel Craig era Bond films in my opinions, not that much could come close to Skyfall or Spectre for me. I think it's been severely damaged by having such a long wait for it to come out, if it had been a three year gap between this and the last film in the full knowledge there'd be another one a few years, it might have been passable - it certainly doesn't feel like a film that should have took six years to make.

 

It neglects a lot of the famous bond action in favour of relatively surface level and not all that convincing 'personal trauma' sub plot for Bond that whilst it pays off in the end is all a bit contrived. It's almost trying too hard to be serious and deep at times, it's a Bond film - just show me the chase scenes, ridiculous action sequences and Bond's latest flings. (Although gratuitous shots of women are rather pleasingly replaced frequently by gratuitous shots of Daniel Craig quite a bit in this one - but given there wasn't a single woman in the audience at my screening that might have been to no avail aside from gay men)

 

The problem is, the Bond franchise has moved on. Not sure having ridiculous action sequences etc. would really cut it with the way cinema works these days. You've got Fast & Furious for that and there's only so many levels of ridiculous you can go. This is way better than Spectre, but not as good as Casino Royal or Skyfall. Personally while I kind of wish I'd refreshed my mind with Spectre before hand, I think this movie benefiited from the long gap - the numbers are tracking pretty good from a box office perspective.

 

Be interesting to see where they go with the refresh. The only bit I was not entirely keen on was

the whole sub plot with the CIA agent double cross, ultimately felt a bit pointless and a way to kill of Jeffery Wright, which didn't pack that much of an emotional punch for me.

 

7/10

 

Skyfall is the best for me, this is very clearly a goodbye to Bond as we have known Bond. Lots of touches like We Have All The Time In The World instrumentally playing in the background early on, the classic Bond gun opener scene used towards the end, and other tributes. The plot was being flagged early on. Its too long, though, and the complex plot goings on stop it being a cohesive storyline, tho fragmented plot twists would have been a thing if the opening scene hadnt given everything away already. Craig is great as always, the best Bond of all. Certainly a lot of crotch shots too. Throwback yo his debut scene coming out the sea. Rami is doing a deliberately overstated understated performance which is cartoon villain time, but he is watchable. The female leads are not weak vulnerable or token totty. So times have changed already....

Latest news on the new Bond movie to be directed by Cary Joji Fukunaga, which has no title yet, has been pushed back to 14 February 2020 with Daniel Craig, his last appearance as James Bond. Originally the new Bond movie was scheduled to appear towards the end of next year October/ November 2019, its not even in production, its quite an unusual release when most of the Bond movies are released towards the end of the year, mind you Daniel is currently working on a different film project.

 

Early speculation is a remake of O.H.M.S.S. I should imagine Blofeld will be a re-cast, if that happens.

WOW Bond coming again, its cool and best of luck.

 

I saw this today, it was quite good. Skyfall is till my favourite though.

 

Enjoyed this a lot though.

I haven't watched it yet but will going to watch today

Finally went to see this today (in English thank god) and I agree with Roo that I could have done with rewatching Spectre before hand before seeing this one.

 

 

I actually really liked the movie. I wasn’t so troubled by the length, blockbusters have bloated or maybe it’s because the last movie I watched was Interstellar- now that’s a long f***ing movie that does nothing with its length. I really thought you could feel Phoebe Waller-Bridge in the movie. A few lines here or there, but if light comic relief at times that really really fitted the movie and the current franchise direction. I thought it really suited moneypenny in particular. Would love to see her brought in again next time to do similar light touches to the script as I think it’s payed off quite well.

 

 

 

my biggest irritation is they insist on killing bond at the end of so f***ing many of the bond films. I have lost count of how many times Daniel Craig as Bond has supposedly died. We know there’s another bond film we know there’s gonna be a new Bond we know this so why f***ing blow him up. Like how are we supposed to believe he survived a cruise missile strike ffs. It stretches reality a bit.

 

 

But what I am really curious about is how new bond deals with the fact that bond now has a literal child. Like this is canon now. Where do we go from there. And like how are they getting out of this sticky situation they’ve written themselves into

 

 

 

I’d better no have to wait 6 years for the next one

Finally went to see this today (in English thank god) and I agree with Roo that I could have done with rewatching Spectre before hand before seeing this one.

I actually really liked the movie. I wasn’t so troubled by the length, blockbusters have bloated or maybe it’s because the last movie I watched was Interstellar- now that’s a long f***ing movie that does nothing with its length. I really thought you could feel Phoebe Waller-Bridge in the movie. A few lines here or there, but if light comic relief at times that really really fitted the movie and the current franchise direction. I thought it really suited moneypenny in particular. Would love to see her brought in again next time to do similar light touches to the script as I think it’s payed off quite well.

 

my biggest irritation is they insist on killing bond at the end of so f***ing many of the bond films. I have lost count of how many times Daniel Craig as Bond has supposedly died. We know there’s another bond film we know there’s gonna be a new Bond we know this so why f***ing blow him up. Like how are we supposed to believe he survived a cruise missile strike ffs. It stretches reality a bit.

But what I am really curious about is how new bond deals with the fact that bond now has a literal child. Like this is canon now. Where do we go from there. And like how are they getting out of this sticky situation they’ve written themselves into

 

I’d better no have to wait 6 years for the next one

 

 

The Bond films featuring Daniel Craig share no continuity with the previous actors' films and the next film will be a complete reboot. Think of how the Synderverse shares no relation to Nolan's series.

 

It's highly unlikely anything in No Time To Die will impact on the next film.

I can see Mathilde coming back in 20 years