Laura Kuenssberg has sought out this man's Twitter page and encouraged people to troll him with abuse, for seemingly no reason whatsoever. Keeping in mind this is a man with a sick child in hospital who is a few days old.

 

I didn't fully realise what a nasty piece of work she actually is until this evening.

 

That’s absolutely disgusting.

 

I cannot stand watching Boris in these things, he’s so slimy and idiotic. We need to get rid as our country is not safe.

Calls for Laura to be sacked by the BBC from her 250k a year job. Why? The press would have found out who he was anyway and published it. His Twitter account is being trolled now.

Laura Kuenssberg has sought out this man's Twitter page and encouraged people to troll him with abuse, for seemingly no reason whatsoever. Keeping in mind this is a man with a sick child in hospital who is a few days old.

 

I didn't fully realise what a nasty piece of work she actually is until this evening.

 

She didn't "encourage" anyone to troll him. The person in question publicly announced on his public Twitter page that he had confronted Boris Johnson, and as he publicly put this Tweet on the site, she was able to retweet him for her followers to see. She never "encouraged" anyone to troll him, she just linked to his publicly available page, and to say otherwise is incredibly deceptive and shows a conspiratorial mindset.

Calls for Laura to be sacked by the BBC from her 250k a year job. Why? The press would have found out who he was anyway and published it. His Twitter account is being trolled now.

 

She has encouraged people to give someone a hard time, to actually cyber bully a man whose very young child is sick in hospital. Why on Earth can’t you be compassionate towards him?

I do disagree with the comments against Laura. The same people in an uproar (meaning those on Twitter) are the same who are annoyed when a Tory party member goes viral and it’s not mentioned that they’re a Tory. It’s all hypocrisy.

Has she done anything wrong though? All she did was re-tweet what he publicly put out there on Twitter himself.

 

In the tweet directly before she's talking about how he may Boris look like a rabbit in headlights etc.?

Laura Kuenssberg should be sacked. She has previously herself shared videos of Tory activists AND far right activists (e.g. Turning Point UK) in which she described them as simply 'student'. This is clear breach of impartiality and not for the first time either.

 

I'm starting to think that a lot of people are not believing in the corruption and gameplaying before their eyes simply because they don't want to, because it doesn't suit their idealistic worldview of people acting honourably and instutitions having weight and meaning. These people are making a mockery of that and relying on your faith and better nature to let them.

I'm no fan of Laura but in this instance retweetig a public twitter page isn't illegal in the slightest.

It's likely not the solution though. There will be no solid agenda pushed through on current polls, just as there was no solid agenda in 2017. The problem is that it's an all-consuming issue and we cannot run general elections on all-consuming issues. Our politics cannot survive all-consuming issues either.

 

My democratic take is this: Parliament is elected to be sovereign, which trumps direct democracy, when they ended up rejecting the negotiated deal, they decided on balance that it would not be in the interests of the country to take the results of their efforts to follow the vote. So at that point Brexit failed. If you start suspecting them of pushing an agenda it undermines the reason we have them. Therefore, despite the smoke & mirrors since, I'd argue that that is where we truly are. Democratically. The enactment of Brexit failed, we are stuck in limbo as the current government attempts to pursue their extreme version, and others attempt to stop them, and both are valid democratically.

 

The problem with the issue is that due to its protracted nature, it will go through twists and turns over the years, as we leave, after we leave, and public opinion will shift. Years, decades. Therefore, very much against the criticism of 'neverendums', since the people were consulted and ONLY because the people were consulted in the first one, I think what needs to happen is a SERIES of referendums during the process to ensure that the idea is still workable for the population at the time. It's massive constitutional change. It isn't supposed to be easy.

 

It's hard to know until we have one though.

 

I believe that the parties positions have hardened over the course of 2019 and a GE would bring a different parliament and one which could find a way forward. But again we would have to have one to find out. A lot has changed since 2017 (goodness a lot changed weekly these days).

 

In response to a few other posters regarding people having he ability to change their mind - of course they can but you have to follow what the people voted for initially. Usually these questions are generational issues. Just like the original votes were in 1973/75 nearly 2 generations ago. If the conditions and passions are still there then we can look at things again.

 

 

 

And the last referendum returned 70%. A 51% two nation split with only 20% youth support is NOT a once in a generation result. Sorry :( Mwaa. Brexshit is undemocratic no matter what Murdoch tells you x

Laura Kuenssberg should be sacked. She has previously herself shared videos of Tory activists AND far right activists (e.g. Turning Point UK) in which she described them as simply 'student'. This is clear breach of impartiality and not for the first time either.

 

I'm starting to think that a lot of people are not believing in the corruption and gameplaying before their eyes simply because they don't want to, because it doesn't suit their idealistic worldview of people acting honourably and instutitions having weight and meaning. These people are making a mockery of that and relying on your faith and better nature to let them.

 

 

THIIIS!!!! :cheer: :cheer:

 

I have said that time and time and time again that people on here defend the BBTory based on what it's SUPPOSED to be and not what it ACTUALLY is.

I'm no fan of Laura but in this instance retweetig a public twitter page isn't illegal in the slightest.

 

I never used the word "illegal", but what she did do was tweet his page saying "This is him here" with an obvious motive of directing a baying mob of trolls to a father who has a critically ill child in hospital (of a few days old) simply because he took Boris Johnson to task.

 

I feel the least she can do is address it or make some kind of statement (especially as it hasn't exactly gone by unnoticed), but I expect she'll never even acknowledge it.

I never used the word "illegal", but what she did do was tweet his page saying "This is him here" with an obvious motive of directing a baying mob of trolls to a father who has a critically ill child in hospital (of a few days old) simply because he took Boris Johnson to task.

 

I feel the least she can do is address it or make some kind of statement (especially as it hasn't exactly gone by unnoticed), but I expect she'll never even acknowledge it.

 

Ok but I used that word. She didn't encourage trolling either then. As I said it's a public twitter page which was the point I was trying to make.

And the last referendum returned 70%. A 51% two nation split with only 20% youth support is NOT a once in a generation result. Sorry :( Mwaa. Brexshit is undemocratic no matter what Murdoch tells you x

 

51.9% I think was the actual figure from one of the biggest mandates in British electoral history (73% or nearly 34m people well above an average GE turnout). The votes per age group doesnt count just because they are younger that's not how it works. Also it was a UK wide referendum so the national split is irrelevant as well.

Edited September 18, 20195 yr by Steve201

51.9% I think was the actual figure from one of the biggest mandates in British electoral history (73% or nearly 34m people well above an average GE turnout). The votes per age group doesnt count just because they are younger that's not how it works. Also it was a UK wide referendum so the national split is irrelevant as well.

WROOONG.

 

If it were binding, it would NEED THREE NATIONS!!

 

The youth is NECESSARY FOR A LONG TERM f***ING DECISION!! GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD. JEEESUS!! It's like talking to vidcapper or common sense!!

 

51% IS. NOT. ENOUGH. EVEN. IF. THE. ENTIRE. COUNTRY. VOTED.

You don't need to be rude can you not just answer without capitals letters and personal insults?

 

It was 52% rounded up and the referendum result will be enacted - nobody in the media/politicans or the remain side are arguing any of the points you recite on here about the referendum being binding, advisory or having to have the support of all the UK states. The PM at the time said the referendum result would be enacted and the result would be followed up by Staying or leaving.

IT. WAS. 51%.

 

IT. WAS. NOT. ENOUGH.

 

It doesn't matter what Cameron said. Tories say all kinds of shit. What matters is THE LAW.

Kuenssberg's actions are calculated to ensure she stays within the appearance of neutrality. Her Twitter feed over time has constantly favoured the government, to the point of at times acting more like a government mouthpiece than a journalist. I think people have picked up on this and have been watching for her to 'punch down' on a target that's smaller than her and, like in this case, apparently because he commits the crime of not being in favour of the government. And yes, this one action isn't too bad on its own - though she certainly should be aware of the potential harm it could bring to a father in a trying time no matter his political affiliation, but taken in the larger picture, it's people seeing an opportunity to get her for her previous bias. Though I think she was more in favour of the May government.

 

Anyway, this does distract from yet another poor interaction between Johnson and a member of the public, when Johnson lies about there being press, when the father is ushered away. It's just astonishing that everywhere he goes he finds himself in trouble. 10 years ago this would have ended him.

There have been so few x However it IS NECESSARY in a union, and one with massive population disparity between the four COUNTRIES. Want it to be binding? Okay. 3 nation lock plus a % threshold thanks.

 

In some ways, such a system is like an electoral college, except that they produce questionable results too, like Trump winning, while trailing in the popular vote...

 

Let's face it - people almost only complain about electoral systems when the person/party/choice they support has lost narrowly... :rolleyes:

Edited September 19, 20195 yr by vidcapper

51.9% I think was the actual figure from one of the biggest mandates in British electoral history (73% or nearly 34m people well above an average GE turnout). The votes per age group doesnt count just because they are younger that's not how it works. Also it was a UK wide referendum so the national split is irrelevant as well.

OTOH, the fact that there was such a massive difference between age groups makes acting on such a small majority seem even more reckless. It was obvious on the night of the referendum that the Leave majority would have disappeared by the time we actually left if nobody changed their mind.