From NBC:

 

Democrats seem to be trying their best to lose in November.

 

After reports that Sanders is considering Gabbard to be his VP, there is a report in the NY Post now that Bloomberg would ask Hillary Clinton to be his VP.

 

Would make McCain's pick of Palin actually look sensible.

 

If that actually ends up the case, then one of my predictions from the 2020 predictions thread will come true, which will be a first for me.

If that actually ends up the case, then one of my predictions from the 2020 predictions thread will come true, which will be a first for me.

 

 

Hmm, let me try and think. Did you predict a second term for Trump by any chance?

Bernie will be "considering" a lot of people right now. He will "consider" a lot more if it means they drop out and endorse him! Tulsi would get a role in his admin - maybe even secretary of state - but not VP. Her 2-5% polling would help him out.

So! Bloomberg is HILLARY.

 

It sounds like he was always hanging around as her plan B. He wants her as his running mate. She will agree. Her voters will splinter off from Biden, Warren Pete and Amy and support Bloomberg. Bloomberg then only needs to spend a year as president and then resign, handing off the presidency to her.

 

They are running out of time to pull this off, so hopefully Bernie can walk the nomination.

Bloomberg is far worse than Hillary. He's a billionaire with his fingers in everything who's attempting to buy the presidency through sheer tidal waves of money and bribery. At least if you disapproved of Hillary's corporate agenda you could vaguely rationalise a lesser of two evils thing and justify voting for her...

 

@1227275977849540608

 

Bloomberg in 2015: 'We put the cops in minority neighbourhoods because that's where the crime is'

 

CNN: 'The important thing to remember here is we don't have the full context of a presidential candidate talking about the benefits of racial profiling, I see this tape was leaked by a BERNIE BRO by the way'

This is an absolute joke. Talk about buying your way into power. And controlling an aspect of the media to do so too!

We no longer live in democracies. We live in pure oligarchies now.

If Bloomberg wins the nomination, you'd hope that a decent number of Americans would finally begin to question whether the system is working. If it happened, I can see a third credible candidate standing and splitting the anti-Trump vote.

Was watching clips from The View and it astonished me how much sense Meghan McCain was making. She was essentially calling out the media for completely ignoring all the racist etc. things Bloomberg has said whilst Joy sat there defending him and reading out things Trump has said?

I don't get this option that seems to exist that its ok for the Democratic Nominee to be racist cause Trump is too and probably worse?

Political Polls

@PpollingNumbers

#National, NPR/NewsHour/Marist General Election Poll

 

Biden 50% (+6)

Trump 44%

 

Bloomberg 48% (+4)

Trump 44%

 

Sanders 48% (+3)

Trump 45%

 

Buttigieg 47% (+2)

Trump 45%

 

Klobuchar 47% (+2)

Trump 45%

 

Warren 47% (+1)

Trump 46%

Reid Wilson

@PoliticsReid

WISCONSIN WH'2020 poll (Quinnipiac):

Trump 50

Klobuchar 39

 

Trump 51

Warren 41

 

Trump 49

Buttigieg 41

 

Trump 50

Sanders 43

 

Trump 49

Biden 42

 

Trump 49

Bloomberg 41

 

Those Wisconsin numbers are not good at all for Democrats. Clinton lost it by less than 1% in 2016 and now depending on the candidate the Democrats appear to be 7-11% behind, that's an enormous step backwards in a state they should be wanting to take. Democrats seem to be losing the most support in white areas which perhaps demonstrates how divisive identity politics is, when you embrace one group you unintentionally exclude another. In these head to head polls Warren almost always performs poorly compared to the other Democratic candidates, and I wonder if that is because she so strongly plays identity politics with gender. Of course there is nothing wrong with addressing issues that disproportionately affect women and/or minorities, but if those issues are all you talk about you shouldn't expect votes from men and non-minorities because you have given them no reason to support you

PENNSYLVANIA WH'2020 poll (Quinnipiac):

Biden 50

Trump 42

 

Klobuchar 49

Trump 42

 

Bloomberg 48

Trump 42

 

Sanders 48

Trump 44

 

Buttigieg 47

Trump 43

 

Warren 47

Trump 44

MICHIGAN WH'2020 poll (Quinnipiac):

Sanders 48

Trump 43

 

Bloomberg 47

Trump 42

 

Biden 47

Trump 43

 

Warren 45

Trump 43

 

Buttigieg 45

Trump 44

 

Klobuchar 45

Trump 44

 

This really was fantastic to watch — hopefully Warren just ended the Bloomberg campaign.

 

 

I’ve watched that like 4 times now and I swear down it gets better every time. This time I noticed Klobuchars face at the start on Warrens first attack and she was like “oh damn that bitch got me real good”

You’re not flying to London City from Tegel this morning are you Michael? There’s a lass here in a Bernie 2020 shirt - first time I’ve seen one in Europe - and the only possible person I can think who would have one on the good side of the Atlantic is you :P

You’re not flying to London City from Tegel this morning are you Michael? There’s a lass here in a Bernie 2020 shirt - first time I’ve seen one in Europe - and the only possible person I can think who would have one on the good side of the Atlantic is you :P

 

 

:o I thought Michael was a he?

Those Wisconsin numbers are not good at all for Democrats. Clinton lost it by less than 1% in 2016 and now depending on the candidate the Democrats appear to be 7-11% behind, that's an enormous step backwards in a state they should be wanting to take. Democrats seem to be losing the most support in white areas which perhaps demonstrates how divisive identity politics is, when you embrace one group you unintentionally exclude another. In these head to head polls Warren almost always performs poorly compared to the other Democratic candidates, and I wonder if that is because she so strongly plays identity politics with gender. Of course there is nothing wrong with addressing issues that disproportionately affect women and/or minorities, but if those issues are all you talk about you shouldn't expect votes from men and non-minorities because you have given them no reason to support you

 

If we're counting, Trump won Michigan and Pennsylvania by similar margins and that's 36 electoral votes against 10. The Republicans need to be doing better on identity politics, alienating anyone who isn't a rich straight white man isn't going to work in the long run smh. And that's true, conservatives do just as much identity politics as anyone else, but apparently it's only bad if you're talking positively about people who don't fit into the norm.

 

Polls now are still a bit far out, but that's why the Democrats need a candidate who isn't going to focus on the group someone happens to be, but rather push for the rights of everyone. I agree with you in the sense of getting caught up in identity politics debates is bad because it'll just make the Democrats look condescending, and the real debate needs to be selling the really important messages of healthcare and fixing the broken inequal economic system that places like the Midwest are going to be hurting from.

Polls now are still a bit far out, but that's why the Democrats need a candidate who isn't going to focus on the group someone happens to be, but rather push for the rights of everyone.

 

 

Agree totally. Still a good way to go until Nov.2nd anyway and the campaign proper hasn't even begun yet.