'Yang Gang'ers are very weird. Seems like he's getting a lot of apolitical types on board. Honestly if Sanders weren't so far ahead I'd be calling him my second choice, as you say, he'd be good for independents, pretty good for progressives, I think he's pretty good at getting into Trump's area, I honestly do hope he sticks around in politics after this.

 

Obviously pro-Bernie stuff is getting signal boosted a lot more online than the opposite and this is just one precinct but...

 

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May that be the case amongst the rest of Iowa.

Uncharacteristic delays in the Iowa results, putting down to 'quality control'. Biden's team in particular have asked for some time to react to them. Only 1% of districts are even reporting, there's a few statistically meaningless popular vote statistics out (in which it's currently Sanders 1811, Warren 1636, Buttigieg 1553, Klobuchar 773 and Biden in 5th (!) at 722) but no delegate counts at all.

 

Signs elswehere do seem to sort of fit with that, suggesting that Sanders had a really good night and Biden a really poor one, Klobuchar and Buttigieg overperforming, perhaps Warren about as expected, but the delay in the official result means that most of the campaigns may well not have a chance to react before New Hampshire next week.

 

conspiracy theories about the DNC fixing these delays to avoid giving Bernie a primetime victory speech are currently running a little rampant so I'll save you the post, Michael.

From CNN

 

Iowa polling is fascinating.

 

Over 65s has Biden leading and Sanders on single digits

18-49 has Sanders leading and Biden on single digits

 

Age is surely the biggest dividing factor in the Democratic party.

Whether Sanders wins this time or not it suggests the move to the left is inevitable over the long term.

Rather concerning, the DNC had been using a new app that was supposed to count the results, known as Shadow. Shadow had apparently received funding from Pete Buttigieg's campaign (and a bit from Biden's but this is mostly Buttigieg), and Buttigieg has made tweets, at a time when no official results are known, indicating that he's done very well. The other candidates have not.

 

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Warren's chief strategist:

 

https://twitter.com/rospars/status/1224588463334359040

Here’s what we know about what happened in Iowa:

It’s a very close race among the top three candidates (Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg) and Biden came a distant fourth

The process broke down; systematically and individually in many precincts, both people and technology failed

Any campaign saying they won or putting out incomplete numbers is contributing to the chaos and misinformation

For now, our incredible organizers who delivered a strong result in Iowa and who showed how to build a community of positive, passionate advocates for big structural change will deploy to the states that vote in the coming weeks — #LFG

 

Rather concerning, the DNC had been using a new app that was supposed to count the results, known as Shadow. Shadow had apparently received funding from Pete Buttigieg's campaign (and a bit from Biden's but this is mostly Buttigieg), and Buttigieg has made tweets, at a time when no official results are known, indicating that he's done very well. The other candidates have not.

 

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wine.caves.

 

An absolute mess.

 

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The thing is, the only person who wins when a mess like this happens is the incumbent. Trump will probably be very happy about the complete shambles that occurred in Iowa last night. He's already gloat-tweeting about it.

I'll never be able to wrap my head around what a ridiculous process the Iowa caucus is.

 

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The thing is, the only person who wins when a mess like this happens is the incumbent. Trump will probably be very happy about the complete shambles that occurred in Iowa last night. He's already gloat-tweeting about it.

 

Exactly.

 

Iowa has a trivial number of delegates but a win can set the tone for the coming months — this is a win for Trump, helps Biden and Buttigieg, and makes a potential Bernie win less potent.

 

Trump's said "They want one of theirs to run the country. They can't even get the caucus results. Couldn't run a bath" :lol:

well he's certainly not one to talk having not done a single thing he promised so much during the last campaign. the one action was putting immigrant children in cages. what a noble guy 💖

well he's certainly not one to talk having not done a single thing he promised so much during the last campaign. the one action was putting immigrant children in cages. what a noble guy 💖

 

 

Well America will judge him on 3rd November. The last three Presidents, Clinton, Obama and Bush, all served two terms. It's not easy to defeat an incumbent.

well he's certainly not one to talk having not done a single thing he promised so much during the last campaign.

 

 

What about the wall? 93 new miles were completed up to end of last year.

well he's certainly not one to talk having not done a single thing he promised so much during the last campaign. the one action was putting immigrant children in cages. what a noble guy 💖

 

Statistically, he's actually achieved more of his promises that you'd think. According to Politifact, as of the start of the year he's kept 17% of his promises, and compromised on a further 10% of them. Of course, some of those promises he's kept might not be things you wished he'd kept to, but he did them nonetheless.

What about the wall? 93 new miles were completed up to end of last year.

i must've forgotten it was built already

 

on mexico's money too

What about the wall? 93 new miles were completed up to end of last year.

 

The one with massive sluice gates, rhe one that has been cut into by power tools, climbed on, and fallen over in winds? That one? Oh, it was funded by emergency funds and by taking money away from service kids' schools lol x

 

Perhaps the subtitle should be amended to the date of the Iowa conference to 33rd Feb. as that’s when the results will finally be announced

The one with massive sluice gates, rhe one that has been cut into by power tools, climbed on, and fallen over in winds? That one? Oh, it was funded by emergency funds and by taking money away from service kids' schools lol x

 

 

I did read that a big heavy piece fell over on to Mexico's side and Trump thought it was hilarious,. Could have killed someone stood on the other side.

Rumour, or speculation tonight, is that the whole Caucus may have to be completely run again. :o The app, which was only installed late last week with no time for it to be tested or anyone to be trained on it, is rumoured to have actually trashed the data. The 50% they are now declaring is all they have got left in paper records, because the cream of morondom were just keying the results directly into the electronic system without keeping an actual paper trail. We shall see.

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Oh lord! Like I said to me friend, they should just cancel it and run it again as a PRIMARY at the very end of the process. It can be the last state instead.

Oh lord! Like I said to me friend, they should just cancel it and run it again as a PRIMARY at the very end of the process. It can be the last state instead.

 

 

Well maybe they'll have to do that.