The Labour Party could start listening to the former Red Wall voters for the first time in decades. That might help you. Or you could listen to Boris, the person that made Red Wall voters now vote Conservative for the first time in their lives.

 

 

What? What does that have to do with my last post? I asked you to give examples of how the UK will be better off turning its nose up at its closest neighbors and you start rabbiting on about the Labour Party.

 

I will ask you again...

 

In what ways will the average British person be better off?

What? What does that have to do with my last post? I asked you to give examples of how the UK will be better off turning its nose up at its closest neighbors and you start rabbiting on about the Labour Party.

 

I will ask you again...

 

In what ways will the average British person be better off?

 

Excuse me, but did you not know that traditionally in the past until Boris and Brexit came along, working class people would vote for the Labour Party. You asked me why working class people in the UK would be better off if the UK was outside the EU. Ask the people in Sunderland why they voted to leave the EU. Or Wolverhampton, or Salford, or Bradford, or Birmingham. All of them traditionally Labour cities that all voted to leave the EU.

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Excuse me, but did you not know that traditionally in the past until Boris and Brexit came along, working class people would vote for the Labour Party. You asked me why working class people in the UK would be better off if the UK was outside the EU. Ask the people in Sunderland why they voted to leave the EU. Or Wolverhampton, or Salford, or Bradford, or Birmingham. All of them traditionally Labour cities that all voted to leave the EU.

 

We don’t want to ask those people anything. You’re here, you claim to know the answers, YOU tell us.

 

Why will leaving the EU be great for the working class?

You won't get an answer from him. He's from the classic Tory government school of never giving a direct answer to any question.

Excuse me, but did you not know that traditionally in the past until Boris and Brexit came along, working class people would vote for the Labour Party. You asked me why working class people in the UK would be better off if the UK was outside the EU. Ask the people in Sunderland why they voted to leave the EU. Or Wolverhampton, or Salford, or Bradford, or Birmingham. All of them traditionally Labour cities that all voted to leave the EU.

 

I´m not asking them...I´m asking you, because you are the one that said that everything will be rosy.

 

You still haven´t answered the question.

 

How? Give some examples?

 

Well I would be the wrong person to ask, because *SHOCK* I voted to Remain. Bearing in mind I was on the fence at the time.

 

Of course, now without a doubt I would vote Leave a 1000 times over.

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Forget it. He´s going on ignore, I can´t be arsed with this b#llcks

Well I would be the wrong person to ask, because *SHOCK* I voted to Remain. Bearing in mind I was on the fence at the time.

 

Of course, now without a doubt I would vote Leave a 1000 times over.

 

This is complete news!

 

Now that you’re so sure Leave was definitely the way to go, can you explain why?

This is complete news!

 

Now that you’re so sure Leave was definitely the way to go, can you explain why?

 

Because I believe in democracy. If I didn't, the UK would be in the same situation that Belarus find their country in today.

Leave voters and the SNP are nothing alike, for a start the SNP are not patriots. They only want to sell Scotland out to the EU project.

No one. And I mean literally no one. Has made that comparison because it is unhinged f***ing lunacy.

 

 

Starting to get quite concerned. Have you tried speaking with a therapist about your delusions?

No one. And I mean literally no one. Has made that comparison because it is unhinged f***ing lunacy.

Starting to get quite concerned. Have you tried speaking with a therapist about your delusions?

 

Scotland in full control over their seas defended by the British navy. No more Dutch and French trawlers destroying the fishing industry.

The Labour Party could start listening to the former Red Wall voters for the first time in decades. That might help you. Or you could listen to Boris, the person that made Red Wall voters now vote Conservative for the first time in their lives.

Why would we want to waste our time listening to a compulsive liar? Most of the people less trustworthy than him are in prison.

Because I believe in democracy. If I didn't, the UK would be in the same situation that Belarus find their country in today.

 

Well, if you're a believer in democracy and the importance of implementing the results of electoral politics then clearly nothing is wrong in Belarus, Lukashenko won his election in a landslide and he's still in power.

 

???

 

Scotland in full control over their seas defended by the British navy. No more Dutch and French trawlers destroying the fishing industry.

???

 

You’re getting less and less coherent as this episode goes on

Well, if you're a believer in democracy and the importance of implementing the results of electoral politics then clearly nothing is wrong in Belarus, Lukashenko won his election in a landslide and he's still in power.

 

???

 

Lukashenko is an authoritarian, brutal dictator. Why on earth would you think that I think that man believes in democracy?

Because I believe in democracy. If I didn't, the UK would be in the same situation that Belarus find their country in today.

 

So you’re so certain it will be ok because a Slim majority voted for it? So it’s not so much that your side won, more ensuring that you’re on the winning side? You sound like a younger Boris Johnson, now wonder you have no credibility here.

Point is, if PeaceMob is going to claim that he was once Remain and switched to Leave on the basis of 'DOING MY DEMOCRATIC DUTY', he should be forced to concede that elections and their results are not always infallible (a ridiculous claim even for the most ardent 'democracy fan' at the best of times) and most especially that they should not bind any actions that they ask elected representatives to implement down a super specific course that was not discussed as a viable beneficial option at any point in this whole sorry process.

I would have a lot more respect for the most ardent Brexit-supporters if they defended their positions with genuine answers, explained and described their reasons, and didn't continuously resort to changing the topic or being evasive with semi-unrelated overreaching comments.

Lukashenko is an authoritarian, brutal dictator. Why on earth would you think that I think that man believes in democracy?

 

I do not. But 'believing in democracy' is a pretty useless qualifier for an argument where you are being asked repeatedly to explain the benefits of Brexit. To say you are supporting it because of some cerebral affiliation to the democratic spirit tells us nothing about why this specific version of hard-right lunacy (not what was voted for) is a good thing. And should not get you out of having to explain it, to knowingly sabotage the country on that basis alone would cause so much unnecessary harm.

Point is, if PeaceMob is going to claim that he was once Remain and switched to Leave on the basis of 'DOING MY DEMOCRATIC DUTY', he should be forced to concede that elections and their results are not always infallible (a ridiculous claim even for the most ardent 'democracy fan' at the best of times) and most especially that they should not bind any actions that they ask elected representatives to implement down a super specific course that was not discussed as a viable beneficial option at any point in this whole sorry process.

 

Either you listen to the people or you choose to ignore the people.

 

I know what country I want to live in.