I mean even with a normal US president and a normal UK prime minister with a normal relationship, the EU will always be a priority as it much more important.

From The Telegraph.

 

Drivers and pet owners face far more complicated and what could be quite expensive EU travel from 1st Jan. 2021.

 

Starting next year, UK drivers will need an international driving permit to use their cars in most European countries.

 

At the moment, British people can travel without restrictions across every country in the EU. Brexit puts an end to that.

 

Your EU pet passports will no longer be valid from next year. Pet owners are advised to start planning their trips and seeing their vets at least four months in advance. Rabies jabs and various certificates of health required.

 

British drivers will now need to obtain a “green card” to prove that they are insured to drive their car abroad. This will incur a fee.

 

If you are involved in a traffic collision abroad, the resulting processes and paperwork could become a great deal more complicated and expensive.

 

Your British car insurance policy document on its own will not be recognised as the legal minimum cover to be able to drive in Europe.

 

British tourists will probably have to obtain insurance to cover them in case they are injured or fall ill while abroad.

 

Expect, in a worst-case scenario, “very significantly reduced access across the short strait of Dover for up to six months”.

Edited February 16, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

A lot of people are soon going to find out how many of the things they have been taking for granted were due to our membership of the EU.

Telegraph Brexiteer readers seem quite annoyed and dismayed at all this. :(

Edited February 16, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

A lot of people are soon going to find out how many of the things they have been taking for granted were due to our membership of the EU.

 

You could just take your dog before with a vaccination certificate but from next year it will cost hundreds in vets fees for extra jabs, blood tests etc before you go. They need a separate rabies jab 4 months before travel then blood tests after 2 and 3 months to ensure it's in the blood stream. Every vet visit costs as we know and all this won't be covered by pet insurance they say. So no spur of the moment trips with your dog to see relatives or for a break. It's said this is good news for kennels as people just won't bother taking them.

Edited February 16, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Telegraph Brexiteer readers seem quite annoyed and dismayed at all this. :(

It's very tempting to say something along the lines of "You couldn't make it up". The trouble is that people were warned this would happen but we were accused of making it up.

Telegraph Brexiteer readers seem quite annoyed and dismayed at all this. :(

 

We told them this would happen and that the Tories and Farage wers charlatans!!

It's very tempting to say something along the lines of "You couldn't make it up". The trouble is that people were warned this would happen but we were accused of making it up.

 

 

Were we actually warned about travel and taking pets abroad though? I can't remember now. I don't do either but many people do. My sister takes their dog to France caravanning every summer.

Yes we warned you about this. Extensively. Frequently.

 

 

I have no sympathy at all for Brexit and 2017/19 tory voters who are suddenly discovering that leaving the EU is actually going to cost them money or seriously inconvenience them. They were warned. They elected not to heed the warnings and now they shall pay the consequences like the rest of us who did heed the warnings.

 

 

The exception to this is the brexpats. The Brexit voting expats. They I actively hate. Imagine benefiting so much from EU migration laws and then voting to pull the ladder up behind you because of eu migrants. You can’t make this shit up. Eu migrants complaining about eu migrants to a country they don’t even live in anymore. Utter stupidity.

Were we actually warned about travel and taking pets abroad though? I can't remember now. I don't do either but many people do. My sister takes their dog to France caravanning every summer.

It's very logical to expect everything between EU and Britain to change so don't go all blaming others for not warning you explicitly that things a, b and c will happen if UK leaves. Leavers should take responsibility for 100% of the shit that's about to go down.

It's very logical to expect everything between EU and Britain to change so don't go all blaming others for not warning you explicitly that things a, b and c will happen if UK leaves. Leavers should take responsibility for 100% of the shit that's about to go down.

 

It was all, "shut up, experts!", "shut up, you elite remainers!", or "pRoJecT FeAr"

The exception to this is the brexpats. The Brexit voting expats. They I actively hate. Imagine benefiting so much from EU migration laws and then voting to pull the ladder up behind you because of eu migrants. You can’t make this shit up. Eu migrants complaining about eu migrants to a country they don’t even live in anymore. Utter stupidity.

 

 

Do we know how many of those there were who voted leave?

Do we know how many of those there were who voted leave?

 

No, and any results would not be very telling anyway, as people who have lived away for 7 years lose their vote. Ah! Such a developed democracy!

No, and any results would not be very telling anyway, as people who have lived away for 7 years lose their vote. Ah! Such a develiped democracy!

 

 

Oh I never knew that.

Michael your inbox is full. Can you clear some out please.

Do we know how many of those there were who voted leave?

There’s plenty of interviews in the media with Brexit voting expats in Spain and France now shocked and horrified that they need to apply for residency and such like.

 

No, and any results would not be very telling anyway, as people who have lived away for 7 years lose their vote. Ah! Such a developed democracy!

Think it’s 15 years

Brexiteers: "I didn't vote for this!!!!"

 

But you did. And you insisted, when we warned you to do some research and make sure you knew what you were supporting, that you didn't need to,and that we were BULLYING you to even suggest it.

 

I'd have more sympathy if Brexiteers hadn't been so aggressive from the off and insistent that they were right just because and that even doing the slightest due diligence was stupid.

There’s plenty of interviews in the media with Brexit voting expats in Spain and France now shocked and horrified that they need to apply for residency and such like.

The media - of all leanings - like to highlight these anomalies to (deservedly) mock them, but it's very unrepresentative.

 

We don't know how many migrants in France voted Remain, although I suspect it's very high amongst those who didn't have their vote taken away. But we do know that 80% of UK migrants in France are of working age and just 20% are retired. The vox pops on the Costa del Sol and in the Dordogne might make you think those percentages are the other way round.

Edited February 18, 20205 yr by Harve

From The Sun:

 

Brussels Bullies getting Frost Bite

 

Brexit negotiator David Frost yesterday said Britain won't budge on escaping EU rules.

He compared Britain to a guest who "had enough of the party and was trying to find a way to slip out"

And he told the Brussels audience "We were already in the hallway."

Europe's leaders have insisted we sign up to a level playing field on workers rights and state bailouts as the price for a trade deal"

Mr. Frost said Boris Johnson's stand "isn't a simple negotiating position which might change under pressure"

He warned the PM will instead walk away at the end of the year without a deal.

Mr Frost said it is wrong to try to tie us to more than the EU asked of Canada or Japan in trade deals,

Edited February 18, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Why are you just regurgitating government propaganda without thought or comment?

 

 

How about you instead post the news that the propaganda piece above is deflecting from? The piece that confirms that HMG will not be punishing it’s own opening position paper after all presumably because it either a) doesn’t exist or b) contradicts every public statement they’ve made since 2014.

 

 

And of course there’s different standards for Canada and Japan. They are both thousands of miles away, not close enough to literally be connected by a tunnel. Again this is literally just meaningless propaganda to disguise what their intentions are and deflect from the real story. Note how none of the examples are European and never have been?