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I am hoping they relax a bit the restrictions to let some travel to visit family IF you then stay there in isolation for some time after (7 days or whatever), just as I haven't been able to see my family since xmas and its a bitch timing wise.

 

 

The Chief Medical Officer has just said there will have to be a lockdown of some kind until probably June.

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So many people in a thread on Mumsnet saying their neighbours have friends or family round tonight. Of course they will. Wanting to know if police can do anything if they ring. Don't think they can if it's inside a private home. Bet there's thousands up and down the country doing the same, drinks in and people round as pubs are shut. The lockdown just isn't workable unless you all have a pass and a copper on every street corner which is impossible. What's to stop someone taking their dog a walk and calling at their mates for a few cans?

 

Someone says the householder has done nothing wrong but it's those visiting that have left their homes for a non-essential reason. People saying not to bother police but mind their own business and police are over-stretched and too busy anyway.

 

Some people are unbelievably selfish. If only these were the only people who got the virus, but it won't, it will also be people who are obeying restrictions and get it at the supermarket because people who have been flouting the rules and have the virus as a result have been shopping there.

Some people are unbelievably selfish. If only these were the only people who got the virus, but it won't, it will also be people who are obeying restrictions and get it at the supermarket because people who have been flouting the rules and have the virus as a result have been shopping there.

 

I think unbelievably selfish may be a bit harsh to label someone you do not know. Misguided and yes, thinking in a selfish way, but they’re clearly worried about their family. People don’t always think or act rationally when they are concerned.

 

I’m a 31 year old who loves alone. I’m actually doing really well in isolation and my parents do not worry for me in my present situation. But if I was 12 years younger and away from my family at university, I don’t think they’d come and get me, but they would be worried about me an awful lot. If you’re already in isolation with your family well good for you but you can’t say you completely understand what it’s like for those who are apart from their loved ones. I’m not saying they’re doing the right thing but I do think some understanding is required.

 

And of course they’re driven by selfishness, it’s basically how our society has worked right up until this moment. Only now are people having to make adjustments to their lifestyle for the greater good. People are struggling with not being able to have what they want and when they want it.

There have been a further 209 deaths in the UK, taking the number of people who have died with coronavirus in the UK to 1,228, latest figures show.

Up to 1228 deaths now.

 

A hospital consultant, 55, has died too.

 

 

From The Mirror.

 

n NHS consultant has become the first confirmed hospital frontline worker to die in England having tested positive for coronavirus.

 

Consultant Amged El-Hawrani, 55, has died at Leicester Royal Infirmary, University Hospitals of Derby and Burton (UHDB) have said.

 

Colleagues have paid tribute to Amged El-Hawrani, who died on Saturday evening after testing positive for Covid-19.

 

Mr El-Hawrani’s son Ashraf said: “Most of my Dad’s time was dedicated towards his family, and the rest of that time was dedicated towards his profession.

 

“He taught me the significance of respect and equality. He also stressed the importance of not worrying about the things I cannot control, which he displayed to me right up until the end of his life.

 

“He did not seek the praise and approval of others, he was satisfied by viewing the positive effects of his actions and the wellbeing of his family. I am incredibly proud to say that for 18 years of my life, Amged El-Hawrani was my father.”

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There have been a further 209 deaths in the UK, taking the number of people who have died with coronavirus in the UK to 1,228, latest figures show.

 

 

Up to 1228 deaths now.

Quick. Post the latest number before someone else beats you to it :rolleyes:

I am hoping they relax a bit the restrictions to let some travel to visit family IF you then stay there in isolation for some time after (7 days or whatever), just as I haven't been able to see my family since xmas and its a bitch timing wise.

 

 

Well the woman wanting to go from N Yorks. to London for her daughter said her hubby wouldn't stop on either journey and they have a big house and she'd isolate for 14 days. Trouble is she may have given her dad it in the car so he'd have to isolate from his wife too. I don't believe either would isolate really. London's the hotspot for it too now at present. Had to laugh at her saying the girl's "only been to the park, work and corner-shop in the past 3 weeks" :rolleyes:

 

Still an unnecessary journey and against the rules now but the way the women on there get angry and worked up and name-call is stupid. Quite funny to observe though.

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Re' People visiting family and friends: My family all want to come round and help me and my parents - but they want us not to catch anything more, so do as I ask and stay away, and stay indoors to stay safe themselves. What's app is fine for get togethers.

 

Anyone who goes and needlessly visits (isolated family who are unable to cope is different) is not helping anyone. The best thing anyone can do for me is not to get ill and plunge me into a terrible emotional dilemma where I then have to not visit them for the sake of my parents. I also want to visit significant other not local, but doing that is a risk, so... what's app or phone.

 

I have to go out for shopping for stuff we can't get online (Sainsbury have been marvellous, actually contacting us and stating that we are priorities due to my parents age, our on-line regular Tesco has been appalling and I'm going to switch permanently because they can't be arsed to prioritise existing vulnerable customers over invading non-prioritised new customers). Lots of things are going to change once this is all over. As we've seen in Merseyside grudges can last decades - Hi to Rupert Murdoch and The Sun.

 

 

 

 

A bus driver has died in Bristol and his devastated widow is sure he contracted it from a passenger. He became ill last Saturday and died yesterday.

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So Moscow is officially under house arrest starting from tomorrow. Only allowed to go to work, shop at nearby grocery stores and pharmacies. Not mentioning emergency hospital visits of course. I'll have to go to the vet twice in the next 3 weeks but it's like a 5 minute Uber drive so should be easy enough. My cat has gone through way too much to be skipping treatments now because of some lockdown. There was just one official case on my street (or in my immediate area) so it looks good so far.
So Moscow is officially under house arrest starting from tomorrow. Only allowed to go to work, shop at nearby grocery stores and pharmacies.

 

 

No exercise? Dog-walking?

Dog walking within 100 metres. Cafes and restaurants etc. were finally closed yesterday.

From The Sun:

 

COPS broke up a "massive" karaoke party with 25 adults and children in Derbyshire despite strict coronavirus lockdown rules.

 

Officers were left "absolute shock" after storming the large Saturday night bash, which boasted speakers and a buffet.

 

Derbyshire Police said they spoke with the reckless hosts but it isn't clear what action was taken against them.

 

The force tweeted: "Officers have just attended an address in absolute shock to find 25 adults and children having a massive party with speakers and karaoke.

 

"Everyone dispersed and hosts dealt with.

 

"It is clear people are still having complete disregard for the government advice and rules."

 

Crawley Police said they had "attended a number of reports of parties in houses and neighbour gatherings".

 

The force also tweeted a warning about pubs inviting boozers to paid lock-ins, despite the government ordering public venues to close.

 

Crawley Police added: "Our licensing officers will be checking EVERY pub in the area to ensure all establishments are keeping to the guidelines."

 

Reports have been coming in of pub "lock-ins" all over the country.

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It's saying on the channel 4 news that figures may be being downplayed after doctors in Kings hospital raised concerns.
It's saying on the channel 4 news that figures may be being downplayed after doctors in Kings hospital raised concerns.

 

 

Maybe so as not to panic the public.

I went out to a local secluded area for a walk earlier and noticed there were a ton of people walking dogs, including three or four members of a family walking the one dog. Not a problem for me because it's part of the guidelines and they were doing nothing wrong (assuming they were indeed from the same households) however I made a comment in a group chat to my friends about 'how busy the park is' and I immediately got questioned as to why I was there and if I normally went for a walk there. I made a point that we're allowed to go one walk per day however I then noticed a comment by one of them saying he was tired of people using the 'exercise option as an excuse to get out the house when they don't normally go for walks' blatantly aimed at myself.

 

I'm all for enforcing the rules but I will NOT have people questioning me or trying to guilt trip me for leaving my house for 20 minutes a day for f*** sake. I live alone and can't go visit my family or friends, my work situation is a mess and probably won't be back there and I have nothing to do or anyone to talk to so you're damn f***ing right I'm taking my walk.

 

Also I'm feeling sorry for my brother and sister who still live with the parents because they're finding it very difficult and all of them have forms of anxiety/depression and they're arguing and fighting non stop. My siblings are very social and extroverted (opposite to me) and I know they're struggling to pass the time and feel claustrophobic.

 

Still, it has to be done. :(

 

EDIT - Am I right in saying the new cases in Ireland/Italy are slowing down and their lockdowns are working?

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It's saying on the channel 4 news that figures may be being downplayed after doctors in Kings hospital raised concerns.

Or, in plain English, the government are lying to us.

Or, in plain English, the government are lying to us.

 

 

Why would they do that? All I can think is to stop mass panic but you'd think that if cases were rising people may be more likely to keep to the new rules.

Why would they do that? All I can think is to stop mass panic but you'd think that if cases were rising people may be more likely to keep to the new rules.

Why? Because it is led by someone who lies constantly. Someone who lies so much that many people are questioning whether he really has the virus or if it's just another one of his lies.

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