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No 10 says that lockdown restrictions remain in place

 

So no sunbathing in parks over bank holiday weekend, despite suggestion this restriction will be eased next week.

 

The communication strategy here has been as garbage as ever, Johnson says yesterday restrictions likely to be eased from Monday, press print what they are and that message moves away from Stay Home now he is saying nothing changes.

 

I don't think the UK needs to worry about sunbathing this weekend, could be snow on Sunday!

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Yeah the messages remain mixed Jack

 

Also some flights still going while the stay at home message is still there, such as a plane full of passengers onboard being photographed going from Belfast to Heathrow a few days ago, that's quite a mixed message indeed!

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Also some flights still going while the stay at home message is still there, such as a plane full of passengers onboard being photographed going from Belfast to Heathrow a few days ago, that's quite a mixed message indeed!

 

It's a business essential route for certain industries. Not saying it doesn't help matters but it's the same between many different countries.

 

The bigger problem is some people still need to travel and it's impossible to social distance on a plane. No airline is going to run at 1/3rd full.

Meanwhile Alexander Loekasjenko of Belarus is doing literally NOTHING to prevent the virus from spreading, is actively campaigning for his re-election in august and is organising a huge military parade in Minsk this saturday

 

His advice has been to wash your hands with vodka and poison the virus with it by drinking.

The virus is, according to him, a psychosis.

 

Daily numbers are pretty huge with 9.5 million inhabitants. Today nearly 1000 new cases with a total of 20k.

Most deaths are also due to a lung infection, whilst covid-19 is ravaging the population :')

 

Do they have elections?

Do they have elections?

I mean we can argue about how democratic they are but yeah :lol:

The death hits 30,000 the highest in the world bar the utterly disastrous USA and the UK press go on about easing lockdown while deaths are still in the hundreds. Political.

 

I think people are already ignoring Lockdown, they don't need any further encouragement until we see genuine drops in numbers of deaths out of the hundreds a day. If this was the start of the crisis and 500 people just died TODAY it would have been regarded as catastrophic. Just because we have adjusted to the reality that 30,000 including hundreds of doctors and nurses have died is no reason to think that the government has been less than f***ing useless at all stages. Twat Johnson even caught himself through being as thick as a brick and not listening to sensible advice.

 

Today in Bournemouth, a work colleague checking on temporarily closed catering establishments along the seafront was approached by a lovely polite couple on a day out from Essex asking for directions to Lulworth Cove. Yes, really.

 

THAT's an example of why the death total in the UK is not following the traditional bell-curve. We have our own bell-end-curve to proudly show the world how big it is. Bigger than anyone else's except Trump's USA.

 

THIS

 

And the fact out PPE isn't even in date, neglegience by the government!

 

I mean we can argue about how democratic they are but yeah :lol:

 

Jesus I thought they were just a dictatorship or Russian satellite state

It's a business essential route for certain industries. Not saying it doesn't help matters but it's the same between many different countries.

 

The bigger problem is some people still need to travel and it's impossible to social distance on a plane. No airline is going to run at 1/3rd full.

 

They've added an extra flight now.

 

Are all the building contractors in England not shut down? That's what most of the people on the flights were heading for!

Jesus I thought they were just a dictatorship or Russian satellite state

Elections tend to be a joke in this part of the world. The propaganda and censoring of the competition is downright ridiculous. You cannot call what we have here a democracy whatsoever. That makes people (especially the older generation who tend to vote in larger numbers) believe that the virus is whatever they are told on TV. State-funded television is pure evil.

Elections tend to be a joke in this part of the world. The propaganda and censoring of the competition is downright ridiculous. You cannot call what we have here a democracy whatsoever. That makes people (especially the older generation who tend to vote in larger numbers) believe that the virus is whatever they are told on TV. State-funded television is pure evil.

 

You are basically desceibing modern day UK.

 

 

Hate stuff like that. There's no doubt the UK goverment messed up big time, but that video is absolutely ridiclous to push an agenda with comments edited in that were weeks apart from each other. The whole world collecively shat themselves on the 23rd March. Countries were at different stages, but whatever data was shared across the world then cased the world to cease.

 

On a seperate note, Momentum are posting a video praising Jacinda when she is a complete Blairite. Funny old world sometimes.

Hate stuff like that. There's no doubt the UK goverment messed up big time, but that video is absolutely ridiclous to push an agenda with comments edited in that were weeks apart from each other. The whole world collecively shat themselves on the 23rd March. Countries were at different stages, but whatever data was shared across the world then cased the world to cease.

 

On a seperate note, Momentum are posting a video praising Jacinda when she is a complete Blairite. Funny old world sometimes.

Not that odd. Look how many people here are praising the centre-right Angela Merkel.

I think that most are willing to praise leaders when they get it right, even if they ideologically differ, the stereotype may be that no one hates each other more than leftists and centrists but in reality, they obviously have a lot more in common than leftists do with right-wingers. wanting to uproot the foundations of the capitalist system aside...

 

Jacinda may not be an exact match with Momentum but she's closer to them than most world leaders, which is just a little indicative of how far right the general world leadership has drifted.

 

That video is good at reflecting differing attitudes though, in New Zealand it was act fast, get it contained, and they managed it. It's not wrong to suggest that New Zealand's policy was clear and the British one was unclear and filled with half-measures. There is an arrogance from the British spokespeople there, at a time when they should have known better, because they should have known better throughout March.

Jacinda made quick decisions based on saving lives, communicated them clearly to her people and has stayed in touch updating them regularly on her decisions and explaining why.

 

Our government initially put the economy before lives, were slow to take precautions that would save lives, our own PM stupidly got himself infected and put out of action for weeks just so he could make a comment to the press in attempt to show himself off and he’s hiding almost everyday of the crisis handing updates over to inept officials, none of which can speak clearly without putting a spin on things. Oh and a lot of their poor decisions have been Brexit based.

 

This isn’t even about the party’s politics now. In times like this, people generally try to do the right thing. New Zealand’s government appear to have done that. The UK’s hasn’t.

Okay yeah the momentum video is edited a bit dodgy (not a big fan of them anyway) but the point still stands, New Zealand acted while Britain did anything but. I've just accepted that some will apologise and valiantly defend the government no matter what but the facts are out there, it's only so long before the people responsible are held to account.
Okay yeah the momentum video is edited a bit dodgy (not a big fan of them anyway) but the point still stands, New Zealand acted while Britain did anything but. I've just accepted that some will apologise and valiantly defend the government no matter what but the facts are out there, it's only so long before the people responsible are held to account.

You're overestimating people's ability to think on their own. It will never happen.

Jacinda made quick decisions based on saving lives, communicated them clearly to her people and has stayed in touch updating them regularly on her decisions and explaining why.

 

Our government initially put the economy before lives, were slow to take precautions that would save lives, our own PM stupidly got himself infected and put out of action for weeks just so he could make a comment to the press in attempt to show himself off and he’s hiding almost everyday of the crisis handing updates over to inept officials, none of which can speak clearly without putting a spin on things. Oh and a lot of their poor decisions have been Brexit based.

 

This isn’t even about the party’s politics now. In times like this, people generally try to do the right thing. New Zealand’s government appear to have done that. The UK’s hasn’t.

 

I'd agree in normal circumstances, but I don't even think Momentum really know the comparison they are making. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I still find it amusing that they continue to kick up a stance about Starmer being a Blairite, when Jacinda is just about as close to an Blairite politican as you can possibly get. It just tickled my amusement.

 

 

Okay yeah the momentum video is edited a bit dodgy (not a big fan of them anyway) but the point still stands, New Zealand acted while Britain did anything but. I've just accepted that some will apologise and valiantly defend the government no matter what but the facts are out there, it's only so long before the people responsible are held to account.

 

The Government will be held to account, it's clear that in the weeks leading up to lockdown they made some errors which cost lives. The fallout of this will be huge. I don't necessarily disagree that it wrong to pursue a herd immunity strategy, just not as agressively as the government were doing. Some choices post lockdown were idelogically driven for sure, which were very wrong. Like I've said biggest problem we had as a country is the majority of Ministers in senior positions are over promoted and have no experience, purely because of Brexit.

 

New Zealand had sacrafices of their own to adopt what has happened too - and they also got things very wrong in the initial days of their lockdown too. I was there so I can tell you with fact.

That's not all. They have also lied and been shambolic throughout the entire thing. Thr words pissup and brewery spring to mind with this incompetent aristocratic sad etonian sack of shit government.
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