The reopening of schools and its associated possible rising factor on the R rate should lead to restrictions or at least guidance to the public be even more careful about social distancing elsewhere in society to try and stop the R rate from getting too high.

 

But I can’t see what difference that will make. People are already complacent about distancing, some even think a mask completely makes up for it and some are t even bothering when outside.

But I can’t see what difference that will make. People are already complacent about distancing, some even think a mask completely makes up for it and some are t even bothering when outside.

 

but I think there are many factors:

 

1) Lots of people who are vulnerable are not going outside as much

2) Commuting is not really as much of a thing

3) the majority of places are at least trying to social distance

4) Offices are social distanced/ not open

 

I think all these things have a major effect. It really does seem like the spread is more likely with face to face contact rather than touching surfaces.

Schools should be banned? :o How ridiculous. :(

He suggested that the wearing of masks should be banned in schools. If schools had been banned when he was of school age, I doubt it would have made any difference to his education.

Wales have said it’s up to schools to decide whether to enforce masks. I don’t mind this as in our school Key Stage 3 will barely be moving around as they’re in the same classroom all day and we’ve got staggered breaks and lunches. Key Stage 4 still move around so maybe they will be asked to wear them but I imaging a few kids will be wearing them anyway. I’m hoping we won’t have to ‘enforce’ them because it’s a extra job for us that we don’t need right now as we are getting used to other ways of doing the things we’re already supposed to do.

 

I do hope they don’t get enforced in classrooms but if they do I’d hope I’d be able to use a visor instead. I’d have to go through about 10 masks a day or be constantly washing cloth ones every night, either way costing me a fortune. And I use my face so much when teaching it’d be rubbish if the kids couldn’t see it properly.

Surely it's important that students can see a language teacher's mouth when they speak.

but I think there are many factors:

 

1) Lots of people who are vulnerable are not going outside as much

2) Commuting is not really as much of a thing

3) the majority of places are at least trying to social distance

4) Offices are social distanced/ not open

 

I think all these things have a major effect. It really does seem like the spread is more likely with face to face contact rather than touching surfaces.

 

I still disinfect my door handles when we return from work!

If a single survey question can be said to summarise post-referendum Britain, how about this? Across the population. 31% of people think people should be encouraged to return to their offices rather than continuing to work from home. The group most in favour (by a large margin) are the over-65s.

I wish they would stop surveying everyone about very specific things like that. Employers will decide whether to continue working from home or not. That's where old white males got the idea that it's their business (and theirs alone) to be against abortion, for example.

If a single survey question can be said to summarise post-referendum Britain, how about this? Across the population. 31% of people think people should be encouraged to return to their offices rather than continuing to work from home. The group most in favour (by a large margin) are the over-65s.

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-storie...-mail-1-6813025

 

Have a read of that. Twat.

 

 

If a single survey question can be said to summarise post-referendum Britain, how about this? Across the population. 31% of people think people should be encouraged to return to their offices rather than continuing to work from home. The group most in favour (by a large margin) are the over-65s.

Similar to that Daily Mail journalist telling everyone in his column written from home, to stop working from home.

 

My employer has revoked everyones pass to get in and it can only be reinstated if my manager thinks its necessary for me to go in. I don’t think saving Greggs & Costa counts as necessary for my employer? There’s also a third less desks available so good luck on that...

 

I really hope the third word slogan for whatever marketing campaign this is going to be won’t be ‘back to work’ as if the whole point is that we haven’t been working this entire time anyway.

Any journalist writing at comfort from home (as they often do anyway) calling for the office to return is not worth listening to, and if the slogan is 'save Pret', may it never take off. It seems like economic forces are going to keep workers home anyway, which is good, but of all the reasons to go back, to save overpriced impulse buys shouldn't be one of them.

 

Tory donors who own commercial retail spaces won't be pleased, but I guess they'll just have to take the risk. Lot of good could be done in the UK if land values drop.

Greggs don’t need saving, they serve such a wide market those who have no choice but to go to work are more likely to visit Greggs than overpriced pretentious crap that pret serves.

 

 

The mail w*n**r continues to prove why no one with a functioning brain should pay any heed to the mail.

This was the real reason why they having been pushing for schools to return. Luckily with schools they could hide behind actual reasoning like education and mental health but the government didn’t really care about these things. They needed the childcare back so that the parents could get back to work. They were clearly too short sighted to realise that businesses would find perks in home working. I’m not sure why they’re pushing for everything to go back all of a sudden when a few weeks ago they were slightly holding back. Where is the science to explain it all?

 

Once again though, in the devolved nations the message is still to work from home if you can. I envy those who can, my job will never work as well from home and obviously I’ll be returning next week. I’m half looking forward to it and half anxious. Being in five different rooms with up to 150 kids a day is pretty daunting no matter what messages about safety are being put out there. I’m tempted to stop seeing my family again but I’m not sure they’d agree to us. I’m confident everything will be fine but I just get these thoughts sometimes.

 

So, unless the government can come up with some sort of real advantage for office workers to return, they should remain at home.

This, of course, is coming from a party that usually likes to say that governments shouldn't tell people how to run their business.

Germany has stabilised case wise

 

Not after this probably :(

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53959552

This was the real reason why they having been pushing for schools to return. Luckily with schools they could hide behind actual reasoning like education and mental health but the government didn’t really care about these things. They needed the childcare back so that the parents could get back to work. They were clearly too short sighted to realise that businesses would find perks in home working. I’m not sure why they’re pushing for everything to go back all of a sudden when a few weeks ago they were slightly holding back. Where is the science to explain it all?

 

Once again though, in the devolved nations the message is still to work from home if you can. I envy those who can, my job will never work as well from home and obviously I’ll be returning next week. I’m half looking forward to it and half anxious. Being in five different rooms with up to 150 kids a day is pretty daunting no matter what messages about safety are being put out there. I’m tempted to stop seeing my family again but I’m not sure they’d agree to us. I’m confident everything will be fine but I just get these thoughts sometimes.

 

So, unless the government can come up with some sort of real advantage for office workers to return, they should remain at home.

 

Businesses will go back to the office eventually, at least on a 60/40 split. But from a business perspective they are out to make money, so what's the risk putting your employees all in one place when you run the risk of losing half your workforce if there is an outbreak or employee's suing the business? No risk unless you're involved in manufacturing/logistics/retail.

 

My pet hate at the moment is the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy nutjobs getting all their airtime. Absolute morons.

Businesses will go back to the office eventually, at least on a 60/40 split. But from a business perspective they are out to make money, so what's the risk putting your employees all in one place when you run the risk of losing half your workforce if there is an outbreak or employee's suing the business? No risk unless you're involved in manufacturing/logistics/retail.

 

My pet hate at the moment is the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy nutjobs getting all their airtime. Absolute morons.

I'm all for balanced broadcasting but insisting on a balance between established scientific fact and these nutjobs is ridiculous. It used to be the political left who were most likely to believe in mad conspiracy theories but now it is mostly right-wingers.

Not after this probably :(

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53959552

They had one a couple of weeks ago and the government said it had no adverse impact on the case numbers.

 

 

Let’s just say things today have been chaotic here

I'm all for balanced broadcasting but insisting on a balance between established scientific fact and these nutjobs is ridiculous. It used to be the political left who were most likely to believe in mad conspiracy theories but now it is mostly right-wingers.

 

I don't mind them, stuff like Area 51 etc. I kind of get as there is some logical base to it. But stuff like 5G, anti-vaxxers, QAnon, it's really dangerous. Even the idiots who believe the earth is flat!

Why do the government want to protect the city centre economies anyway? I thought their version of free market capitalism means that these businesses will or would have to change their models to survive? Just like the workers do when work changes? Why is it always the people who have to change?

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They had one a couple of weeks ago and the government said it had no adverse impact on the case numbers.

Let’s just say things today have been chaotic here

Right-winger nutjobs chanting "Putin" in Berlin. I've seen it all. And to make it even FUNNIER a lot of Russian Twitter is FOR the protest and condemns the arrests and the police response. I mean they are probably Kremlin bots but the sheer madness and hypocrisy due to the fact the very same people constantly DEFEND the barbaric police actions (BELIEVE ME, what's happening in Berlin is NOTHING compared to here lmao) when protests happen in this part of the world make my mind BOIL :')