Low sales for Ari and Sam :nocheer:

There must be streaming data missing. Miley at #4 and Lasting Lover #11 does not add up

 

Some people here... :rolleyes:

I'll be happy regardless of who takes the #1, but am rooting for Sam! :cheer:

So I see that Bruce's album will stay on Number 1 this week.

Edited November 2, 20205 yr by Better Man

I was expecting Sam and Ariana to have at least 25k already. Even though their album campaign was destroyed after pandemic began I thought Sam Smith is big enough figure to have decent pre-orders of 'Love Goes'. Also Dizzee Rascal making midweek top 10 is a surprise to me. I thought his relevancy in 2020 is non-existent and album will be a massive flop.

Edited November 2, 20205 yr by Tefo

Dizzee will likely fall. Disappointing sales for the top 2 albums its likely to be like this throughout Q4 unfort!

I was expecting Sam and Ariana to have at least 25k already. Even though their album campaign was destroyed after pandemic began I thought Sam Smith is big enough figure to have decent pre-orders of 'Love Goes'. Also Dizzee Rascal making midweek top 10 is a surprise to me. I thought his relevancy in 2020 is non-existent and album will be a massive flop.

 

Again. Barely one months time while bringing forth another different album after an lengthy delay, if released the original SS3, the sales would’ve been ten times more but whatever.. Sam can easily bounce back after this

I stan Ari, but taking my loon glasses off (is that the correct terminology x) those sales are disappointing. I was expecting her to be much closer to Sweetener’s sales, she might get there in the end. The problem is probs pure sales which must be pretty low, but hopefully when website sales come in they’ll be much healthier! Stick with it pure pop gays, it’s an album :wub:

Again. Barely one months time while bringing forth another different album after an lengthy delay, if released the original SS3, the sales would’ve been ten times more but whatever.. Sam can easily bounce back after this

Yeah, I think it's actually good that they released an album now as they had to somehow close this era, even if the sales might not be too impressive. Now Sam can move on to the next one and have a success with it. They're definitely not over. I just thought Sam might have a little bit higher pre-orders now, even despite the messy campaign for the last few months.

So I see that Bruce's album will stay on Number 1 this week.

 

Where?

I don’t think anyone is suggesting Ariana is flopping, more so that the album is, so far, underperforming in comparison to the juggernaut that is Thank U, Next.

 

I personally think she should have taken a longer break from music to recharge her batteries and come up with a better album. She already had two hits this year and I think looking in retrospect, Ariana will realise that releasing her sixth studio album now wasn’t strategically sound.

Edited November 2, 20205 yr by Cognizant

Yeah, I think it's actually good that they released an album now as they had to somehow close this era, even if the sales might not be too impressive. Now Sam can move on to the next one and have a success with it. They're definitely not over. I just thought Sam might have a little bit higher pre-orders now, even despite the messy campaign for the last few months.

 

Strange the way their album wasn’t up for preorder earlier in the year as it would have racked up quite the preorders with each single release and the delay. Mustn’t have been able to though!

I don’t think anyone is suggesting Ariana is flopping, more so that the album is, so far, underperforming in comparison to the juggernaut that is Thank U, Next.

 

Omrimayo is.

sadly Sam Smith is signed to Capitol, who seem totally clueless when it comes to handling an album campaign

what artist is also on Capitol? Katy Perry

and the album campaigns have been almost a carbon-copy for both Katy Perry and Sam Smith

instead of releasing the album after their big hit, they waited and waited and released bad choices of singles one after the other

dragging the campaign for ages looking for an elusive 2nd hit that never came

and they end with a huge underperformance of an album

sadly Sam Smith is signed to Capitol, who seem totally clueless when it comes to handling an album campaign

what artist is also on Capitol? Katy Perry

and the album campaigns have been almost a carbon-copy for both Katy Perry and Sam Smith

instead of releasing the album after their big hit, they waited and waited and released bad choices of singles one after the other

dragging the campaign for ages looking for an elusive 2nd hit that never came

and they end with a huge underperformance of an album

Agreed - they're disappointing.

 

I wonder if the 'To Die For' pre-orders counted towards this or were they all cancelled? :thinking:

Going back to Ariana: I don't think there's much sense comparing 'Positions' to 'Thank U, Next'. Personally, I felt a long time ago that TUN era is her peak era because of how massive it was. Most artists, even the biggest stars with decades-long careers tend to have this one era that is so successfull that it's simply impossible to beat it or replicate. And that doesn't mean they flop after that. They still have number one singles, platinum albums and so on. Just that one extremely massive era is bigger than anything else and happens once in a lifetime. And that's natural. So I knew that next Ariana album won't be as big as TUN before it was even announced that 'Positions' exist. Simply beacause I couldn't imagine a bigger era than 'Thank U, Next'. Maybe there were people who thought that 'Positions' will outsell 'Thank U, Next' but tbh I don't think there were many of them! So I don't think that comparing 'Positions' to TUN is a way to prove that it flopped. Because going with the same logic I can tell you all a fascinating story about Adele career-ending flop in 2015 when her album sold only 23 million copies which was less than what '21' did. Is your 12 times platinum album a flop beacause the previous one is 17 times platinum? And no, I'm not really Ariana fan or something.

sadly Sam Smith is signed to Capitol, who seem totally clueless when it comes to handling an album campaign

what artist is also on Capitol? Katy Perry

and the album campaigns have been almost a carbon-copy for both Katy Perry and Sam Smith

instead of releasing the album after their big hit, they waited and waited and released bad choices of singles one after the other

dragging the campaign for ages looking for an elusive 2nd hit that never came

and they end with a huge underperformance of an album

 

Thankfully, theirs been rumors of Sam leaving capitol and going to Atlantic records, they recently followed them and the record label followed back

Edited November 2, 20205 yr by Yog

Come on Cliff!

The album sales are very disappointing and Cliff Richard much closer to Ariana Grande and Sam Smith than I ever expected.

I expected both the Top 2 to be over 30,000 with Cliff on the sales he has now and a very distant 3rd.

Agreed - they're disappointing.

 

I wonder if the 'To Die For' pre-orders counted towards this or were they all cancelled? :thinking:

 

Canceled, it was an different tracklist