BuzzJack exposed!!!

 

(the BuzzJack censor does have some weird holes in it)

 

((I also don't see why there should be any need for this site to have a word filter at all, we're all adults here and it's very easy to get around anyway, but that's entirely irrelevant to this thread))

 

There hasn't been a proper overhaul of the censor for years, I never added to it - though I absolutely could - because with very few exceptions (slurs, may add f*ggot in that case), I'm in agreement with Bré, filters aren't necessary.

 

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My opinion on this whole controversy is that it is being amplified to stoke the culture war fires and everyone is FOOLS for falling for it again, but most especially anyone losing their shit over a single homophobic word being removed from current radio playings of an old song that they are totally free to go and search out the unedited homophobeful version for like the free-willed human beings they are.

If other gay people are offended by this song are they also offended by the song from West Side Story? :rolleyes:

 

But as has been explained time and time again in the thread, it's not about being offended by the word but by the double standard of censoring everything but this.

Also don't understand what trying to 'catch people out' is meant to prove here.

The other exception the BBC have often made is with Elvis Costello's Oliver's Army. The last time I heard it, the N word was left in.

The other exception the BBC have often made is with Elvis Costello's Oliver's Army. The last time I heard it, the N word was left in.

I don't think I've heard that on the radio for quite a few years now, I think the BBC quietly dropped that one cos of the word (that I also remember was uncensored) and no one cared like they would if FONY got dropped.

Maybe ask the artist why they feel the need to use wet ass pussy then and why aren't radio 1 going this song is disgusting we are not going to play it even censored, maybe if radio 1 stopped playing all songs that have offensive lyrics the artists may realise and stop using them but radio 1 encourages artists to make songs like this.

 

How many people complaining about Fairytale of New York have actually complained about Wet Ass Pussy?

 

Let radio 1 play both of them unedited and see which one gets them a fine from ofcom and see which one most people complain about being played unedited.

I don't see how a homophobic slur (used with intention or not) is the same as a woman talking about her own private parts. I know there was a whole debate about WAP and whether it's empowering or a poor message, and I'm not going to get into that, but it really isn't comparable to an actual homophobic word being left untouched.

 

In my view, both are fine to be censored. WAP isn't suitable for a daytime audience (and the edited version of the song received less radio support than a hit of its size would usually get - a 3 week #1 that was snubbed entirely by Capital and "only" B-listed by Radio 1 showed a reluctance to play it, yet also acknowledging it was THE song of the moment for a couple of months and pretty much unavoidable). I personally am not offended by the use of the F-slur in FONY, because I know it wasn't intended as a homophobic slur, but that doesn't mean it's right for radio. It's a triggering and offensive word for so many people and it has no place on radio stations. It's really sad that many of the people who are offended by the removal are straight, too. It demonstrates a blatant lack of understanding and clear homophobia (not talking about yourself, Steve).

 

WAP is more outright in its explicitness and that's the whole point of the song. It wasn't meant to be tame. If Radio 1 started snubbing all songs with offensive lyrics there would be a very small pool left and it'd leave them so far behind the streaming services, where such songs would continue to be popular. Radio 1 would quickly fall out of favour with its own target audience because the artists wouldn't stop making songs with swear words or explicit language in. The audience would just abandon them and move to other stations or to streaming.

 

I’m literally someone who’s been called that word many times it might bother some people but I’m comfortable enough with myself to not be too bothered by it. I get why it’s been done but I wasn’t someone who’d have been campaigning for it to happen. The original will always exist as well :lol: this is just for radio right? They’re not gonna remove the original or anything on iTunes / streaming sites are they?

Jordan, it's great that you don't get offended by it, but other people may. It's a wider issue than just you or I, and it's important to ensure people feel heard when they say particular words are triggering. The F-slur is a derogatory word, and the context of it in the song is irrelevant, it's not a word that has a place on radio these days.

So will Radio 1 after 9pm also censor derogatory terms about women, the N word etc from hip hop songs?

They already do?

What's always amazed me about the FONY debate every year are the amount of mostly straight people claiming that removing that word ruins their favourite Christmas song, when it is literally just one word. Taking out that word and replacing it with haggared makes no difference whatsoever to the song, musically and sonically.

 

Gammons just loved having the chance to shout out a slur every year and get away with it.

I think that this is the right move to make.

 

I quite like the lyric in the context of the song and will listen to the original version on CD or iPod over the festive season. But people are offended by it so public plays should be a censored version. You can listen to whatever version you want in private. I bet most people complaining are complaining because they want to moan and probably don’t even listen to the radio.

When will people stop this nonsense about being offended it doesn't matter if the song says "faggott" or "$l*t" it has been playing up and down the land for 33 years and now suddenly "OMG He said f*****" get a grip.

 

I watched an episode of the Bill on Youtube yesterday from 1994 a character said "coloured person" am I supposed to get all red in the face and throw something at the laptop?

 

Stop trying to change history the song is from 1987 and depicts the language that was used it isn't a song which uses language from 2020 people need to realise this and accept what was made at the time will use references from that time.

 

Even The Pogues on Twitter are fed up of this by the sounds of it, in fact they seem fed up that it's that time of year again but they won't be fed up when the cheque comes through in January.

 

 

 

Nobody is trying to change history and nobody is saying that you should be offended that it is there, simply that we know now this is derogatory term therefore it is not suitable for radio. We don't allow racist terminology to be broadcast in songs so why would we allow homophobic terminology to be broadcast?

 

By allowing this to be played on the radio you are telling every school child it is acceptable to go into school and use it against other pupils I mean if it's on radio 1 then why not?

So will Radio 1 after 9pm also censor derogatory terms about women, the N word etc from hip hop songs?

 

 

They already do!??

Personally I think it’s about time that this song had a radio edit, I think without the profanity it would gain more radio airplay and exposure from daytime DJ’s, so from a marketing and social standpoint it’s a good move.

I don't object to this as while it's never bothered me much in the context of the song, I can definitely see how others would be in this day and age. I don't agree that the song itself is homophobic though, it's about a drunk, disorderly couple that are arguing in a cell, there's a bit of sexism thrown in there too, it strengthens how messed up and unsympathetic people they are. Yes, they'd never get away with it nowadays, but it's very important to look at context and it wouldn't have held up so well over the years if it obviously had a bigoted message.

I agree with what someone said earlier in this thread questioning the need to announce that they're playing a censored version of a song, instead of just playing it? It's like they want to provoke a reaction from the people who are against it.

I personally love the song (i'm a straight woman) and taking out one offensive word doesn't bother me in the slightest, and frankly, people who say it's "ruining" their favourite Christmas song are ridiculous and homophobic. not everyone will be offended by it but there are people who are.

Glad they finally put out an edited version for streaming!

I agree with the comments, why announce anything they don't announce it for other songs!?!?

https://t.co/Ku0GOSe8DZ

 

 

Were there any comments on social media regarding when Radio 1 played it on the chart show back on Friday at all?

I agree with the comments, why announce anything they don't announce it for other songs!?!?

 

Because as soon as the Daily Mail noticed they would have been forced to issue a statement anyway

There wasn't even a backlash anyway. People have more important things to worry about this year after all.