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WRONG. She actually has a degree from Oxford. How many here who deride every member of the current Tory cabinet ever went there or stood any chance whatsoever of getting in there? Only 22% of applicants do each year.

 

Sick of all the Tory name calling here. :angry: Al least get your facts right.

 

They get in with like two Us etc, after attending the best private schools in thr country, spoon-fed EVERYTHING and coached for the Oxford interviews for YEARS. Oxofrd is VERY quick to accept more of its landed géntry ilk, too. Stop cap doffing. You sound like that Downstairs man simping for the royals in Downton Abbey.

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They get in with like two Us etc, after attending the best private schools in thr country, spoon-fed EVERYTHING and coached for the Oxford interviews for YEARS. Oxofrd is VERY quick to accept more of its landed géntry ilk, too. Stop cap doffing. You sound like that Downstairs man simping for the royals in Downton Abbey.

 

 

Nobody gets in Oxford or Cambridge with U grades at A level Michael no matter who they are. You need straight Grade A's and to pass a gruelling set of interviews.

Nobody gets in Oxford or Cambridge with U grades at A level Michael no matter who they are. You need straight Grade A's and to pass a gruelling set of interviews.

 

Mwaaa. WROOONG!!! The landed géntry need Us to get into Oxford. They are trained for YEARS for the interviews. The peiple who need As and to pass the interviews are the people from state schools and with no connections. Sorry. The ENTIRE British state is corrupt and built up to protect the wealth and interests of the aristocracy. That includes Oxford. Oops.

WRONG. She actually has a degree from Oxford. How many here who deride every member of the current Tory cabinet ever went there or stood any chance whatsoever of getting in there? Only 22% of applicants do each year.

 

Sick of all the Tory name calling here. :angry: Al least get your facts right.

 

And again: getting into Oxford doesn’t make these horrendous people better than any of us.

 

Yes, she may have a degree but the evidence since suggests she is thick as pig droppings.

Doom scrolling through the corona stats for my city and I noticed something today. The data isn’t the most accurate and it runs on a week delay but, a week ago when we were 1800 or so on the 7 day rate the 7 day rate for symptomatic cases was 95,3 city wide of which that was 212,5 if you were unvaxxed, 49,3 if you had 2 jags (or one J&J) and 29,7 if you were boosted.

 

 

Quite interesting to see what a difference the statistics would look like if we took the Chinese approach of only counting symptomatic cases but I guess also it’s a great insight into at the moment how much protection the vaccines are affording us and also that it appears that yes Omricon is milder but of course that doesn’t mean it can’t cause long covid and serious complications.

 

So far in Feb 18% of those hospitalised have had at least 2 doses (no breakdown available for 2 vs 3 doses) and the same figure was 23% in Jan.

 

Vaccines work nicely

So in England the need to isolate may be removed by the end of this month.

 

Surely it’s be a lot safer just for Carrie to give birth next week?

I think it is a month too early still - however, it sounds like most people aren't self isolating already. Mad really as I'd hoped this would be the end of people having shitty colds/covid and feeling forced to come to work still and spreading all the nasty germs!
It's all about the economy with our Government (and appeasing the rultra right wingers). There is a real push as well for people to go back to offices. i'm not competely knocking it as it is understandable in a way due to people's livelihood. Although if we do have to have more restrictions, there will be far less adherence due to Johnson's partying. It is a big gamble.
It's all about the economy with our Government (and appeasing the rultra right wingers). There is a real push as well for people to go back to offices. i'm not competely knocking it as it is understandable in a way due to people's livelihood. Although if we do have to have more restrictions, there will be far less adherence due to Johnson's partying. It is a big gamble.

 

I think the days of restrictions are over now if I am honest. I think we are moving slightly too fast but this was going to have to happen at some point, otherwise we accept now as the norm. Agree on the offices part, but I think that is different to the individual. I'm looking forward to getting back in to the office on a flexible basis.

I can understand the move back to offices but dropping the legal requirement to self-isolate is crazy. Cases are still relatively high and this is a very infectious disease which is highly transmittable. What about people who are vulnerable? It’s way to early and again not following the science.
The move to make LFTs not freely available will be the worst part.

There was to be an end to restrictions at some point in time but when infection levels are still higher than in any previous wave that is probably not the smartest time to drop everything but if the uk gov is anything it’s not smart.

 

 

Dropping self-Isolation requirements wholesale is the dumbest thing they’ve thought of since the energy „discount“ that’s actually a new stealth tax on energy. I would love a scientist to run the statistics on how many fewer flu deaths and hospitalisations we would see if we made it a requirement to self-isolate if you had some form of short viral infection. A legal requirement that you’re entitled to up to 7 days full pay sick leave for respiratory/viral infections and it’s softly enforced by societal expectations that if you’re sick you stay at home instead of push through. I wonder if that alone would be better for the future resilience than any of the BS the gov is proposing. (I am just wondering, no scientific evidence to go off other than flu cases being decimated by lockdowns and mask wearing suggesting that cutting transmission chains would help us with winter NHS resilience)

What you lot seem to be all missing is that people can still isolate if they want to but aren't forced to. Covid is just about over and here in London not many are wearing masks any more, even on the tube and buses. Less in supermarkets. For once Boris is spot on with something. We can't go on with restrictions forever.
I agree with Quarantilas above. Self isolation makes perfect sense in creating a healthy society. I don't have a problem with masks on public transport and supermarkets either as both of them are essential services and we are effectively shutting access to them for vulnerable people if we dump them. Neither of these affect going back to "normal" in my view as wearing a cloth on my face doesn't turn me into a crying baby like some..

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What you lot seem to be all missing is that people can still isolate if they want to but aren't forced to. Covid is just about over and here in London not many are wearing masks any more, even on the tube and buses. Less in supermarkets. For once Boris is spot on with something. We can't go on with restrictions forever.

What you seem to be missing is that the requirement to isolate is to protect others, not the person who already has Covid. It is NOT just about over; there are still 200+ people dying of Covid every day.

What about people who are vulnerable?

The vulnerable should stay at home, as they could get infected with many other diseases. There is more than just COVID-19, you know.

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