I’m going to caveat this with that Ive loved this series and think the top 4 Is probably one of the strongest that theres been in all series of Drag Race. I’ll also say that the result was ruined by a friend saying ‘tell me when you’ve watched the final I have THOUGHTS’ which rang alarm bells - so I knew Bimini wasn’t going to win.

 

The final was good and everyone was on their game. Ellie going out in 4th was kinda expected to be honest. What got me was that they said Lawrence wasn’t on it during the main performance and she barley moved during the lip sync for the win.

 

Given she won I was expecting some defining moment - but there was nothing. The editing for her in the last few shows has been shocking including the final. In fact to have Bimini win 4/5 challenges then talk about her dead friend only for Lawrence to win is doing her no favours. All she talked about was her hair and Scotland.

 

It’s such a weird result given the edit as they haven’t protected Lawrence at all. Especially given she’s removed herself from Twitter only 2 weeks ago.

 

I will say Bimini was robbed! And the producers/ editors have f***ed Lawrence over as the edit clearly was gunning for Bimini to win. Ru clearly knew who they wanted to win from show 1 which is a shame and makes me think she doesn’t get the UK really.

 

Bimini :wub:

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It's such a shame they didn't crown Bimini - for all that she represents, for her resilience and work ethic... I'm baffled they just went A to B with Lawrence, ignoring all the superior work all the other (three) queens put in the latter part of the series. I mean, it's clear they were pushing Lawrence from the get-go [the dubious win on the Morning Show challenge, should've been bottom in the Eastenders challenge etc] but to actively disregard better work from those queens feels a bit disrespectful? No disrespect towards Lawrence and her work, she's a wonderfully talented and entertaining queen but when you put it in the context of this competition it just fell flat for me.

Not to mention their #Team on Twitter had Bimini on 41.5k likes, Tayce on 9k, Lawrence on 7k and Ellie on 2k but that's besides the point.

 

At the end of the day Lawrence only won fancy jewellery and an online show with a trip to Hollywood, it's not like the other queens lost out on big money.

 

Rant aside - what a wonderful season and set of queens! Can't wait to see what they're gonna come up with for Series 3!

Really the win is going to do Lawrence more. Harm than good as she Bimini was such an overwhelming favourite with fans.

 

 

Ironically I agree that Lawrence's edit as the winner will stand out as one of the weirdest things about this season.

 

To have the winner be someone who was shown for over half the season - and the back half at that - as consecutively: unconfident - but deservedly so because everything she worried about she then did do, argumentative, unable to take a joke, unable to take criticism, expecting others to bend over backwards for her, struggling with performance skills - and never overcoming that despite the last challenge being a performance challenge - is just bizarre.

 

Such a weird choice to air her being like that out of the days-long footage they had of her.

I can't believe Bimini didn't win, I'm not even going to get into it because I'll be here all day but what an absolute joke. Riggamorris!!!!!!!

I loved the epsiode. I could tell from the get go with the way it was edited that Lawrence was winning. Whilst I would've loved Bimini to win, I can see why Lawrence won. I feel Lawrence winning would benefit him more and benefit the Scottish drag community as well.

 

I really did want Bimini to win, but I'm not hugely mad she didn't. If anything Bimini not winning is going to be potentially amazing for her career. She's been gaining a huge social media following and is now the most followed British queen. Imagine what it's going to be like if she does an All Stars season too? I can definitely see Bimini doing something similar to Alaska/Katya/Trixie in being a fan favourite and going on to do extremely well or even win an all stars series.

 

Can I also say that Tayce KILLLLLLLLLLLLED it in the song. She's such an amazing performer. She would kill an All Stars season I bet!

 

I'm glad Ellie was 4th and separated out from the top 3. She has such huge potential, I can't wait to see what she does after the show!

 

We really need a US vs UK All starts season. Bimini, Divina, Tayce, Blu, A'Whora and Bagachips as the lineup - they would be such strong contenders *_*.

Yeah that's what is weird and feels off for me too, I'm not saying amount of wins or track record is everything (for example, Jaida felt like totally the right winner over Gigi despie Gigi having the most wins and no bottom 2 placements) but the way that Lawrence's journey went over the latter half of the season compared to Bimini's, the way she was edited and the storylines she had just really did not feel like that of a winner. That might be me being easily swayed by editing, but when you've got someone killing it like Bimini, who has been on such a journey and stepped her game up, and then Lawrence who was mediocre for much of the second half, with a defining storyline being "still mad at Ellie's line-up choice"? To me it did really feel like because Bimini stepped up and won so many challenges in that second half, they edited it as such, whereas Lawrence I feel came to a halt, but they still just crowned Lawrence anyway? When all you really see is what we were shown of Lawrence the last few episodes, it's hard not to be disappointed by the result.

 

Also look at what Bimini stood for, being non-binary, and just being positive, warm vibes throughout who never got into any drama, never let anyone else get in her head and have her focus, she just did what she needed to do and shone. Talking in her podcast segment too about her dead best friend, her battle with drugs, having such a story, as well as killing the competition and they just go "nah LAWREHNCE CHEHHHHNEHHH"? It just feels so weirdly put together and edited that I wonder if Ru changed his mind last minute or something, who knows :lol:

 

I know it's "just" a TV show, I know they all did well and any of them would have deserved it, all the queens contributed to a great season that got us through lockdown blues, but when you watch what is a competition for 10 weeks and they just crown what feels like whoever they want, what's really the point of the competition or any challenges? :lol: I know it won't detract from Bimini, plus I'd probably agree that Lawrence would be best for the WOW show (although who won an acting challenge, Snatch Game and stand-up, not Lawrence :whistle:), but to me it just feels underwhelming is the word I'd probably best use.

Oh yeah Jaida and Lawrence are in no way shape or form comparable.

 

Lawrence winning makes the least sense out of all 3 options because Lawrence wasn’t winning on? any metric at all

Oh yeah Jaida and Lawrence are in no way shape or form comparable.

 

Lawrence winning makes the least sense out of all 3 options because Lawrence wasn’t winning on? any metric at all

Yeah I agree, mentioned it becasue I'm seeing a lot of people say "well Gigi won the most but she wasn't robbed". It's just that if you go on track record, it was Bimini's to win, if you did end up treating it like a normal episode, Tayce won, Lawrence imo didn't win the lipsync, and also wasn't the strongest in the performance, plus had a weak second half of the season for a winner, that's what makes it feel disappointing that she won to me.

 

I suppose it's comparable to Yvie's S11 track record just with more wins, given Yvie also bombed Snatch Game and kinda stayed downhill from there, but since that was a lipsync for the crown, she won based on that too, whereas with this it's just baffling me that there's no metric Lawrence won on, but she still won? :lol: Yvie however did "feel" like the winner regardless, so that's just another point that it isn't all about track record I suppose. You can't really compare any two wins or runs on the show because there's so many different variables at play, so that might be a stupid point to make on my part scrap that :lol:

Just such a sour ending to a great season, it’s so obvious Lawrence win because Ru had a weird obsession with her from day one. Like fair enough had they crowned Lawrence when they went into lockdown, no one could have argued with that but in the five episodes since they came back Bimini won 4 of them and Lawrence didn’t have a stand out performance in any. None of it makes sense with the storylines that have been edited over the last few weeks. The entire narrative of the series built up to Bimini winning and to not give us that is just baffling.

 

The sad thing is the win for Lawrence is gonna do more harm than good at this point considering the amount of backlash he’s gonna get while Bimini’s popularity will skyrocket, it could have been so easily avoided though. If they were so insistent on giving Lawrence the win surely they could have edited her better than the bitter, unconfident messy queen we saw in the second half of the season. Evidently production don’t care though which is a shame as none of it is Lawrence’s fault yet he has to deal with the fallout.

 

As for the finale itself it was meh I guess. The song wasn’t great, didn’t flow well and the queens verses were so short. I get why they picked that song but the production was such a miss it was disappointing. Maybe it was originally edited for three queens and it was a last minute job? Also as much as I enjoyed Ellie this episode what was the point saving her just to then have her be the only queen that doesn’t get to lipsync? Like fair enough if it was going to be a top 2 final lip sync but it wasn’t and the decision was obviously based on her track record as she really turned it out in the performance and runway.

 

 

 

Also if anyone won that last lipsync it was Ginny, she was hilarious bopping away in the background!

you’re basing your ‘metrics’ on personal taste, though?

 

for me, tayce won the performance - i actually thought bimini was pretty terrible. i couldn’t understand what she was saying because she was so fast in the rap, she was ahead in the choreo + there were times where she was out completely and it wasn’t the editing.

 

i also thought her runway was underwhelming - it was half a wedding dress + her makeup was terrible. i didn’t get it? i love what they stand for + represents, especially who they are as a person but as a drag queen, i don’t rate them. that’s my opinion, it’s neither more or less correct than anyone else’s here.

 

lawrence is a bigger queen so is naturally not going to be able to perform splits and writhe around on the floor. the laws of motion literally equates to her not be able to move as fast as a smaller person so she can’t be held accountable for that. lawrence’s runway was by far the best for me. she looked fabulous + had an actual cute, well thought out, well constructed concept. her lipsync was great too. i don’t always enjoy the “look i’m a gymnast” lipsyncs - which is why tayce was so good at it because she would emote her performances as opposed to looking like she was trying out for the olympics.

 

all four queens were likeable, gave great performances + stood for their own causes. lawrence won 3 badges + was great throughout. she had her moments + wasn’t perfect but who is? she was a self-saboteur, something i know a lot of us deal with. hers aired out because she couldn’t control it, i don’t think that should be used against her. i think it’s really mean spirited to disregard her rather great performance because you preferred someone else + are blinded by the hyperbole. the show as a whole has to be included in the judgment. it would be disingenuous of anyone to defend the first couple of runways for bimini, for example. the football look? was that a winning look? should it be forgotten because of how great you think she turned out her looks after the break? lawrence never once came onto the runway looking anything but polished from the start + up to the end.

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The sad thing is the win for Lawrence is gonna do more harm than good at this point considering the amount of backlash he’s gonna get while Bimini’s popularity will skyrocket, it could have been so easily avoided though. If they were so insistent on giving Lawrence the win surely they could have edited her better than the bitter, unconfident messy queen we saw in the second half of the season. Evidently production don’t care though which is a shame as none of it is Lawrence’s fault yet he has to deal with the fallout.

Very good point, lowkey it's quite irresponsible to edit in that way, almost like it's really setting up controversy and a bit of a storm but surely anyone adjacent to the show knows what the fans are like. I'm of course not condoning it and people should just disagree without being toxic but sadly that's what happens time and again.

 

Tbh though I'm leaning towards thinking that Ru changed his mind last minute, like really last minute once it was all edited and done?! That seems like a RuPaul thing to do :lol:

all four queens were likeable, gave great performances + stood for their own causes. lawrence won 3 badges + was great throughout. she had her moments + wasn’t perfect but who is? she was a self-saboteur, something i know a lot of us deal with. hers aired out because she couldn’t control it, i don’t think that should be used against her. i think it’s really mean spirited to disregard her rather great performance because you preferred someone else + are blinded by the hyperbole. the show as a whole has to be included in the judgment. it would be disingenuous of anyone to defend the first couple of runways for bimini, for example. the football look? was that a winning look? should it be forgotten because of how great you think she turned out her looks after the break? lawrence never once came onto the runway looking anything but polished from the start + up to the end.

So nobody's perfect but Bimini shouldn't win because of a shit runway at the start? :lol: If that's the case, then Ellie should have won for never really bombing anything and only being bottom 2 pretty much by default at top 4? Nobody has really disregarded what Lawrence *did* do well, nobody can say that she hasn't had many of the most polished runways of the season and did really well for the 3 weeks she won, but personally I feel she was the weakest this week and hasn't been that great for a few weeks and that contributes to me being disappointed by it. It's nothing to do with Bimini not winning even, although that's something that as a huge fan of her I am guided by admittedly, because I am the kind of person who gets REALLY into something and gets annoyed if it goes "wrong" in terms of what I wanted, that's just how I am and I'll forget about by tomorrow and be fine :lol: I think we all get a bit like that tbh and that's fine when it's just our opinions without hate, with gays and drag race I finally understand how the straights feel about their football team!

 

Again I wish no hate and only success for Lawrence, she is talented, I just personally did not want her to win and am disappointed by that fact.

you’re basing your ‘metrics’ on personal taste, though?

No i’m not at all-

 

Traditionally- Bimini had the most wins

Episode wise- the general consensus- including from the judges- was that Tayce did the best in the challenge

Social media wise- they post the #Team_____ on Twitter normally to get an estimation on who is causing the most buzz on social media- Bimini won by over double on Twitter, Instagram etc

Track-record wise- Lawrence hadn’t won for 4 weeks

 

So I don’t think it’s fair to say these metrics are my personal taste at all? I’m not mad at Lawrence winning just confused on why the show made the decision- but my comments weren’t to do with personal taste at all I thought?

So nobody's perfect but Bimini shouldn't win because of a shit runway at the start? :lol: If that's the case, then Ellie should have won for never really bombing anything and only being bottom 2 pretty much by default at top 4? Nobody has really disregarded what Lawrence *did* do well, nobody can say that she hasn't had many of the most polished runways of the season and did really well for the 3 weeks she won, but personally I feel she was the weakest this week and hasn't been that great for a few weeks and that contributes to me being disappointed by it. It's nothing to do with Bimini not winning even, although that's something that as a huge fan of her I am kind of blinded by, admittedly, because I am the kind of person who gets REALLY into something and gets annoyed if it goes "wrong" in terms of what I wanted, that's just how I am and I'll forget about by tomorrow and be fine :lol:

 

 

i didn’t say lawrence was perfect, none of them were. i was defending the point that you discounted lawrence for having tough weeks at the end by countering that, recalling bimini having tough weeks at the beginning.

 

i feel that saying lawrence winning is underwhelming is totally disregarding what she did. how can it be underwhelming when you’ve just admitted that her runways were amongst the most polished, did really well when she won + won the second most badges of them all. disappointed, i understand. but underwhelming? with that track record.. i don’t think.

No i’m not at all-

 

Traditionally- Bimini had the most wins

Episode wise- the general consensus- including from the judges- was that Tayce did the best in the challenge

Social media wise- they post the #Team_____ on Twitter normally to get an estimation on who is causing the most buzz on social media- Bimini won by over double on Twitter, Instagram etc

Track-record wise- Lawrence hadn’t won for 4 weeks

 

So I don’t think it’s fair to say these metrics are my personal taste at all? I’m not mad at Lawrence winning just confused on why the show made the decision- but my comments weren’t to do with personal taste at all I thought?

 

 

the show ran for 10 weeks though, not 4. lawrence had 3 badges + the general consensus from the judges + fans is that if the show hadn’t stopped filming, bimini wouldn’t be where she was. the first half of the season can’t be discounted just because bimini got better in the second half :lol:

lawrence is a bigger queen so is naturally not going to be able to perform splits and writhe around on the floor. the laws of motion literally equates to her not be able to move as fast as a smaller person so she can’t be held accountable for that. lawrence’s runway was by far the best for me. she looked fabulous + had an actual cute, well thought out, well constructed concept. her lipsync was great too. i don’t always enjoy the “look i’m a gymnast” lipsyncs - which is why tayce was so good at it because she would emote her performances as opposed to looking like she was trying out for the olympics.

Plenty of bigger queens have down splits and writhed on the floor so it’s nonsense to assume Lawrence can’t because “science.”

Plenty of bigger queens have down splits and writhed on the floor so it’s nonsense to assume Lawrence can’t because “science.”

 

well lawrence literally said “i can’t do that” but if that’s all you’ve taken from what i said then so be it.

As for the finale itself it was meh I guess. The song wasn’t great, didn’t flow well and the queens verses were so short. I get why they picked that song but the production was such a miss it was disappointing. Maybe it was originally edited for three queens and it was a last minute job? Also as much as I enjoyed Ellie this episode what was the point saving her just to then have her be the only queen that doesn’t get to lipsync? Like fair enough if it was going to be a top 2 final lip sync but it wasn’t and the decision was obviously based on her track record as she really turned it out in the performance and runway.

I feel, and I could be way off here, they would've LIKED it to be a top 2 final lip sync between Lawrence & Bimini but Tayce absolutely MURDERED that challenge so there was no way they couldn't allow her to continue. She left them with no choice but to keep her around until the very end.