Wow, Album sales must really be dead!

I was expecting 400k plus for this :mellow:

I guess it could still cross 300k

In any case we have now to compare Adele's number mostly with current market. If the market declined, especially with physicals sales, and she is a physical seller, we cannot expect 30 to sell how 25!

 

Which is the best selling debut in the UK of the last 3 years? Abba with 204K (not sure)?

Let's see how much more will 30 sell compared to Abba!

We don't have to forget that 25 was not so consistent (compared to 21). Maybe this album will debut with "only" 300K but will hold the top spots for years.

The only thing I believe is that Adele must start promote more! Not only UK and USA or France, but also Germany, Italy, Australia and so on!

Do we even know what missing data there is? Because there’s almost definitely some.

The floppage though :cheeseblock:

 

Even Adele cannot break the new 200k-ish market limit, and thr album eill collapse to 60k next week! :o Taylor could have run her close-ish this week.

 

Close-ish?

 

Adele has already beaten Taylor Shifty's first week sales in one day, and she didn't have to hawk "hand-signed" albums to do it.

 

 

 

On Adele, if the TV special leads to huge streaming increases next week do we think we might finally see ITV prioritising music programming again with TV specials. Doing them with artists like Olivia Rodrigo, Ed Sheeran, Sam Fender, Ariana Grande etc who are known outside the teen bopping demographic could be great for ITV and the labels, could also do them with older names (like the Noel Gallagher one but on ITV instead of ITV2). Could be a really good strategy for them and the labels.

 

I can’t unless it is an Adele, it’s is quite normal to have music specials in November and December

Close-ish?

 

Adele has already beaten Taylor Shifty's first week sales in one day, and she didn't have to hawk "hand-signed" albums to do it.

 

He's allergic to facts, don't worry too much.

 

That is terrible for Adele and has shocked me but it shows how bad the market is it’s not a reflection on her as an artist.

 

I was honestly thinking even given the market it would do around 500k how wrong I was!

 

I’m sure after the ITV special etc it will give it a good boost potentially to 300k by the end of the week?

 

 

The one thing I'm interested in is how the album holds up. Whilst it may not do as much first week as many thought, I can see it doing 100k+ each week up to Christmas. Long-term if they keep pushing out singles and do big promo opportunities when they arise (BRITS/Grammys etc) I can see the album doing 1.5-2 million total sales which would be by far the biggest selling album since divide.

Maybe I’m mistaken but it seems vinyl is priced higher the last year. Is this because it costs more now to produce or because record companies are just trying to raise more cash (fair enough, buying physical product has been ridiculously low since new release CDs started going back under a tenner in the late 90s).

 

In relation to Adele why would anyone who no longer buys CD shell out £30 plus for vinyl when they can stream her….she’s a mass appeal artist the vinyl is too expensive. Vinyl is niche… mega fans initial week and then the collectors will pick up vinyl in much smaller numbers. She’ll have her mega fans, probably more than most, but most of the people who buy Adele aren’t mega fans. If that makes sense!

 

Personally after streaming the album yesterday I wouldn’t be interested in the vinyl. Not worth it but I’ll stream it occasionally.

Edited November 20, 20213 yr by aeroco

Maybe I’m mistaken but it seems vinyl is priced higher the last year. Is this because it costs more now to produce or because record companies are just trying to raise more cash (fair enough, buying physical product has been ridiculously low since new release CDs started going back under a tenner in the late 90s).

 

In relation to Adele why would anyone who no longer buys CD shell out £30 plus for vinyl when they can stream her….she’s a mass appeal artist the vinyl is too expensive. Vinyl is niche… mega fans initial week and then the collectors will pick up vinyl in much smaller numbers. She’ll have her mega fans, probably more than most, but most of the people who buy Adele aren’t mega fans. If that makes sense!

 

Personally after streaming the album yesterday I wouldn’t be interested in the vinyl. Not worth it but I’ll stream it occasionally.

 

It might due to the fact there aren't enough vinyl plants to print the demand? Not to mention supply chain constraints causing costs to go up - particularly shipping costs.

The one thing I'm interested in is how the album holds up. Whilst it may not do as much first week as many thought, I can see it doing 100k+ each week up to Christmas. Long-term if they keep pushing out singles and do big promo opportunities when they arise (BRITS/Grammys etc) I can see the album doing 1.5-2 million total sales which would be by far the biggest selling album since divide.

 

It depends what the preorders were if it’ll do decently Each week for the next 5, albums don’t really hold up as well these days except on Xmas week itself.

Edited November 20, 20213 yr by steve201

I think this says more about the state of the overall now dead physical market than Adele (Or Ed) for that matter.

 

The days of 400k+ opening weeks are over for everyone.

She'll still cross 300k and in 2 weeks time she'll have the biggest album of the year.

 

Call it flop or whatever you like, she still owns this game :smoke:

Ed did with = 139K which is a little more than 20% of Divide debuted with 672K

 

Adele had an 800K debut with 25, its 20% is 160K+.

We can safely state that 30 is performing better than =, despite 4 and 6 years of difference album to an album for each artist.

 

If Adele is able to pull 40-50% of 25 it would be incredible!

Edited November 20, 20213 yr by sprock-93

I think this says more about the state of the overall now dead physical market than Adele (Or Ed) for that matter.

 

The days of 400k+ opening weeks are over for everyone.

 

Possibly. Maybe Coldplay are the ones who overperformed. But it will probably take years to figure it out, like we might get to the end of the decade and these recent albums might have the highest first-week sales of the decade, and we'll look back at this differently.

Maybe I’m mistaken but it seems vinyl is priced higher the last year.

 

30 is a double vinyl, that's why it's more expensive.

I think this says more about the state of the overall now dead physical market than Adele (Or Ed) for that matter.

 

The days of 400k+ opening weeks are over for everyone.

 

It certainly looks that way.

30 is a double vinyl, that's why it's more expensive.

 

Oh ok it all just seems more expensive this year not just Adele.

110k for day 1 is nothing to be laughed at and i can see Adele selling fairly well all week, it wont hit the numbers many of us predicted/hoped for but those numbers are still great, i also see Adele selling fairly well for months to come although its overall total is likely to be closer to the sales of 19 rather than 21 or 25 in time to come.

Only 9 albums have ever opened with over 400k lol so no need to act like it's "the norm" even for Adele because it's not.

Edited November 20, 20213 yr by Sour Candy