May 26, 20223 yr Oh, and we're not all getting £400. We're just seeing bills we haven't yet received reduced by £400. EVERYONE gets AT LEAST £400 off bills. Pensioners and those on means-tested benefits get more.
May 26, 20223 yr The scepticism comes from when this has been announced Chris though, the Cabinet has basically tried to bury the Sue Gray report. The Goverment had to do something but let's not forget it is partly their fault why we are in this mess. The measures are good, but they are necessary and should have been done earlier. People are going to really struggle if we have a bad winter. The Chancellor becomes popular when he starts delivering left-wing policies from a very hard-right government - it's just bonkers. As much as I am not a socialist, it really does begger belief why people who love these policies vote Conservative.
May 26, 20223 yr EVERYONE gets AT LEAST £400 off bills. Pensioners and those on means-tested benefits get more. Wo we're not being given £400. We're just getting £400 less taken from us.
May 26, 20223 yr If the government were serious about helping people they would've done so months ago before the energy price cap rose by a ridiculous 54%. As opposed to dragging their feet through the mud and then announcing help at the convenient timing when the Sue Gray report was published.
May 27, 20223 yr At least be grateful we're all getting at least £400. Even when they do something good you lot here bash them. It's just pathetic. Not to mention the fact they had to be forced and shamed into this position of doing the right thing, and it's obviously being used as a distraction to try and bury the Sue Gray report. It shows them for the duplicitous c**ts they really are, basically.
May 28, 20223 yr Based on the last cash donation you have to go online and sell your soul to apply for it and hope they graciously donate it. Incidentally i spent well over the number of hours caring for mum to qualify for some financial assistance. I saved the NHS shitloads by having her at home. But apparently i was earningvtoo muchfrom my part time working from home job 15k before tax to get any help. Apparently carers have make themselves destitute and sacrifice their own pension contributions to get a few quid. Just mention it to underline that they genuinelydont give a shit about people. Its only cos they are worried a labour gov might get in cos theyve f***ed everything up
May 28, 20223 yr Yes but it's summer now so you don't need any heating on. Mine's off now until October. Cold one morning? Put another jumper on. Only run washing machines and dishwashers when full. Shower less. No-one needs to shower every day. Once a week is fine for me with facial washes every day in between. Lots of ways to save. Lights are said to not use a lot but every little adds up. Don't leave your TV on stand-by all night. Something like £5 a year I read. :D Good luck keeping that up when summer truly hits (Also disgusting)
June 7, 20223 yr I don't know whether this thread is most appropriate as a general cost of living thread. But although I knew about how food bank usage has increased, I was truly shocked to see the figure is nearly 1 in 6 of those surveyed. In Britain in 2022. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/j...tandards-agency Surely people who think that the market can solve everything and trickle down wealth must admit that is a fallacy after these figures (or they probably know and couldn't care less IMO)
June 7, 20223 yr It's frustrating when people come in with a smiley "well well, it will be fine if we just don't do as much XYZ". Sorry, but we live in one of the richest countries in the world. We should'nt be having to scrimp and save just to keep a roof over our heads and the lights on, while cutting out sources of pleasure. That's not the life I grew up aspiring towards. It's disgusting how standards have been cut more and more and truly I do believe the only reason there isn't more pushback is because certain people just don't know and others don't realise. For example, I had to work one of the bank holidays we just had and my mother assumed I'd be getting paid double for it. ! Obviously not! But that was something she grew up with and was completely normalized for her. Paid extra for overtime. Paid lunch breaks including paid vouchers for any food you bought. Company cars. Companies paying you a fee to help relocate. Companies paying through the nose for hotels for you ON TOP OF your pay if you have to have an away day. Etc. etc. All down the pan now, instead you can be fired for any reason at any time, a lot of people don't get paid sick days off or paid holidays. This is the UK in the 2020s!
June 7, 20223 yr Exactly - so many people have to work to earn their poverty nowadays and the Government crow about how the low unemployment figures is great news when it is not a route for even a basic lifestyle nowadays.
July 4, 20222 yr Excellent website set up to encourage people to boycott paying energy bills this winter. This is similar to the poll tax boycotts in the late 80s which was widely seen as the trigger that got rid of Thatcher. It is encouraging non payment but only if a million people pledge to do so. It offers good advice about what will happen if people don't pay. https://dontpay.uk/ Considering capitalism is all about making the obsencely rich even richer nowadays I'm all for it. I'm not sure if I will go ahead with the pledge, myself, as can afford it, have to think more about it but acts of rebellion like this do make me feel happier inside.
July 5, 20222 yr Exactly - so many people have to work to earn their poverty nowadays and the Government crow about how the low unemployment figures is great news when it is not a route for even a basic lifestyle nowadays. Yeh I hate the way Labour never replies to this BS at PMQs!
July 27, 20222 yr @1552333029951131648 Better get extra jumpers in (I'm being facetious here) things are going up horrifically. And largely due to Putin squeezing the gas supply. Gonna be one tough winter.
July 28, 20222 yr @1552333029951131648 Better get extra jumpers in (I'm being facetious here) things are going up horrifically. And largely due to Putin squeezing the gas supply. Gonna be one tough winter. It’s looking horrific and not just a tough winter if those predictions are correct. But how can it be right or fair that many people will either be faced with a dire choice of heating your home, eating and/or crippling debt when companies like Shell & British Gas Centrica are making record profits from the price rises. There is something seriously wrong in this country and further proof that this Tory government is failing us abysmally. I would urge everyone to sign up to the campaign (link below) refusing to pay energy bills from 1st October unless the price is dropped. We need to take urgent string collective action as citizens as this government is clearly going to do nothing to help us. https://dontpay.uk/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/she...ion-2022-07-28/ Edited July 28, 20222 yr by slowdown73
July 28, 20222 yr It’s looking horrific and not just a tough winter if those predictions are correct. But how can it be right or fair that many people will either be faced with a dire choice of heating your home, eating and/or crippling debt when companies like Shell are making record profits from the price rises. There is something seriously wrong in this country and further proof that this Tory government is failing us abysmally. I would urge everyone to sign up to the campaign (link below) refusing to pay energy bills from 1st October unless the price is dropped. We need to take urgent string collective action as citizens as this government is clearly going to do nothing to help us. https://dontpay.uk/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/she...ion-2022-07-28/ What good will not paying do? You'll just get cut off and STILL have to pay it plus a reconnection fee. They don't mess about. I worked for British Gas.
July 28, 20222 yr From the above site - there's a number of hoops they'll need to go through and idea is that they won't be able to take action if so many people are doing the same non action. Won't they just cut off my gas and electricity? This is a possibility, but it'll be extremely difficult for energy suppliers to do - especially on a mass scale. For one, energy supply disconnections for non-payment are already extremely rare - as few as 8 in 2018 were reported. This is because certain rules govern energy suppliers' behaviour in non-payment cases: If you haven't paid your bill after 28 days, your supplier may contact you about the possibility of disconnecting your gas or electricity supply. Their first port of call will be try to install a prepayment meter. Before any further action can be taken, though, they must give you a chance to pay your debt through a payment plan. The guidance says that, if you can’t reach an agreement with your supplier on clearing your debt, they can apply to a court for a warrant to enter your home to disconnect you. If you have a smart energy meter then your supplier could be able to disconnect the supply remotely without needing to access it, but they'll first need to have visited your home to do an assessment of your personal situation and the potential impact of disconnection. We'll only go ahead with the non-payment strike if we have power in numbers. So, if energy suppliers decide to try to disconnect people, they'll be forced to first contact thousands, tens of thousands or even more customers about the possibility of disconnecting supply - but only after 28 days have passed. Then they'll have to give a chance to set up a payment plan before, in most cases, applying to a court for a warrant. It'll cause paralysis and create a months-long backlog.
July 28, 20222 yr So happy I signed a two year fixed term deal in December for my leccy (no direct gas) but I’m lightly concerned about the hot water charges as I have no idea how much that will raise by and it also runs a year behind (thanks Germany and your weird rental contracts)
July 28, 20222 yr It’s looking horrific and not just a tough winter if those predictions are correct. But how can it be right or fair that many people will either be faced with a dire choice of heating your home, eating and/or crippling debt when companies like Shell & British Gas Centrica are making record profits from the price rises. There is something seriously wrong in this country and further proof that this Tory government is failing us abysmally. Beautifully put - due to our worship at the altar of Capitalism, people are going to starve, get ill due to lack of heating and untold mental health issues just so that the fat cats can get even fatte. And these fat cats prop up our Governemnt. Sadly people either don't realise or don't care enough about their fellow human beings.
July 28, 20222 yr What good will not paying do? You'll just get cut off and STILL have to pay it plus a reconnection fee. They don't mess about. I worked for British Gas. See the post above - the campaign will only go ahead if 1 million people agree to do it. Collective mass action through non-payment will have a very detrimental impact on the energy companies. Yes, they can threaten to cut you off but by law they are required to at least visit your home first and check your financial circumstances to reach an agreement. Very few people are actually just cut off. And if a million people do this then it will cause the energy companies significant disruption. Unless people act, we know the Tory government will do nothing to address this problem which has been building for years. So what’s the alternative? Sit and wait and hope we get some kind of labour coalition government in two years time who probably won’t do a great deal neither. Edited July 28, 20222 yr by slowdown73
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