Based on that, pink will be number 42 on friday :(

It's a shame as Fleur had the material. More and More was a great follow-up and Breakfast was a smash waiting to happen, plus a couple more songs had potential on the album, so it really was just Syco being truly shoddy.

If there was any Fleur song in her singles discog that should have been a hit it would be "Favourite Thing". F*ck Syco

but now Pink is finally doing something on Spotify, it's not like the first times she hit #46 that she wasn't even top 200 on Spotify, so when the missing Spotify data was added she obviosly dropped 10 places, now she shouldn't drop that much, so might just hold on, maybe i'm too optimistic but think she could end up at #40

Only person I can think of who's got a career boost from TikTok is Doja Cat and debatably Arctic Monkeys. But they had like 7 TikTok hits each. Having just 1 doesn't seem like enough (although to be fair I remember Sam having another one a while back, so maybe after 5 more they might get a career boost lol).

I see this come up often and everyone seems to forget that Lil Nas X's entire career was born on TikTok :lol: On the whole though I feel like established artists get the best kickback from it because they're more likely to have fans in the first place to make the content and then spread it around. Especially lately there's a whole lot of 'hey here's this old Weeknd/Ye/Gaga song we dug up', so it's harder than ever for new artists to establish themselves.

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LET ME EXPLAIN!!!

 

The first week, Miley was like 3x higher than Raye, and now she's just 2x as big!! Next week, 40% bigger, week after 20%... Won't take long for Raye to catch up!

Yeah…. Not happening

Yeah…. Not happening

 

Agreed, it’s likely that Raye will also drop in sales. Maybe not at the same rate, but it’s not like she making rapid rises.

It shouldn't affect anything but I see so much negativity and trolling towards Sam from all sides that it makes me wonder whether that has affected their sales. January sales are low but that low even with...?!?

It shouldn't affect anything but I see so much negativity and trolling towards Sam from all sides that it makes me wonder whether that has affected their sales. January sales are low but that low even with...?!?

by 2025 Album charts will be consigned to History, if not sooner

Agreed, it’s likely that Raye will also drop in sales. Maybe not at the same rate, but it’s not like she making rapid rises.

 

her album comes out on friday, that might give it a small boost? not enough to beat miley i dont thik but should be something

I feel like Love Goes probably would've opened on similar sales had it not been a Q4 release, plus you also have to remember their imperial phase was 9 years ago and they've not since came anywhere close to matching those heights.

 

I feel like it could maybe do fairly decently in the longrun if 'I'm Not Here...' can be a decent sized hit, and then maybe if they can make 'Lose You' and the Ed collab hits in the future somehow? Who knows.

Sam Smith or otherwise album sales are generally tragic week in week out, we’re at the point of thinking 20k is a smash most weeks while low numbers earn a Top 10/20/30 place - I don’t know what the answer is but the album charts whilst adding an element of excitement to chart followers with all the movement are in a dire state.

 

We have Greatest Hits and classic albums clogging up the charts due to streams, and every week artists releasing 15+ physicals variants to boost sales before tumbling out the following week which as a long term plan is unsustainable - there are only so many mutli coloured bits of plastic vinyl and cassettes the GP can fill their houses with.

Is the funamental problem that people just don't tend to listen to whole albums like they did 10/20/30 years ago? They prefer to just stream songs they like these days, mostly singles? So if that's true then the album chart can never hope to recover.

by 2025 Album charts will be consigned to History, if not sooner

 

Yes but it's not balanced out by streaming units either.

I think they need to rework the formula for what counts as an album "sale". I think it currently far too high- don't think I have ever come remotely close to streaming any album enough to count as one.

Is the funamental problem that people just don't tend to listen to whole albums like they did 10/20/30 years ago? They prefer to just stream songs they like these days, mostly singles? So if that's true then the album chart can never hope to recover.

With how much more accessible they are, I'm certain that more people are listening to whole albums than ever before (Bad Bunny's latest album has been streamed hundreds of millions of times in just 9 months, you'd need to sell "Thriller" numbers to even fathom that sort of rotation), but at the same time, a lot more people are just listening to choice cuts that drowns out this data.

I feel like it could maybe do fairly decently in the longrun if 'I'm Not Here...' can be a decent sized hit, and then maybe if they can make 'Lose You' and the Ed collab hits in the future somehow? Who knows.

That collaboration is tragic though, I cannot hear a hit in it even if tried.

her album comes out on friday, that might give it a small boost? not enough to beat miley i dont thik but should be something

 

Not necessarily a given, see how 'Unholy' actually dropped a bit from the previous week following the album release! Hopefully RAYE's album will be a bigger streaming draw than Sam's but I'm not sure if it will be, she is in a similar boat of having one song that was huge and viral but all the other singles doing nothing (far less than the other Sam singles did in fact) which is a little concerning.

p!nk gonna fall out of top 40 again!

 

Hope Trustfall gets top 40, much better song!

Agreed, it’s likely that Raye will also drop in sales. Maybe not at the same rate, but it’s not like she making rapid rises.

 

That's what people said with Flopdele and Cheesy Fad :lol: