May 14, 20232 yr So disappointed with its results. Was it the most amazing vocal/staging - No, however the song is an absolute bop, she gave loads of attitude and fun and I still think it was a great performance, 25th seems harsh. I could think 15-20 at lowest was more deserved!
May 14, 20232 yr I dont think it helped that her microphone level was quite low tbh. I could barely hear her at points but yeah other pop performances before and really strong ones at that didn't help matters plus the other pop girls showed more charisma I felt on stage, not to say she didnt try with some of that herself as she did in places. Going on last probably wasn't ideal with a lot of high packed performances and songs in the competition. The song sounded very current and was something we ourselves would go for so a shame that didn't translate for that aspect really but at least chart wise it should give Mae her biggest hit to date and hopefully keep her career going in a positive direction.
May 14, 20232 yr I think she could continue to do quite well on streaming over the coming months. It’s Defo one of the songs that holds up well for repeat listenings. Very fair from the BBC that article, and I’m really actually quite relieved to see that be the reaction. We’re going in the right direction I think you (the UK) need to do a proper national final next year. The UK public cannot be trusted yet. We’re also a fair few years of consistent effort and PR away from being able to start a small NF and try and do a UMK
May 14, 20232 yr I think she could continue to do quite well on streaming over the coming months. It’s Defo one of the songs that holds up well for repeat listenings. Very fair from the BBC that article, and I’m really actually quite relieved to see that be the reaction. We’re going in the right direction The UK public cannot be trusted yet. We’re also a fair few years of consistent effort and PR away from being able to start a small NF and try and do a UMK I disagree with every last thing you’ve written! The song was atrocious, her performance basic and limited and vocally she was atrocious. She is simply sub par, and it was a huge step step back. Can we have Sam Ryder every single year!!! The public deciding can’t be any worse than this generic dross. TMP choosing again would be a huge mistake. The only positive was the great, euphoric coverage of Eurovision on UK Tv. Liverpool did so well and the show was well produced.
May 14, 20232 yr It’s just not enough to ‘ok’… nor to blame the Mae’s microphone. We need a performer, a show person and somebody with a voice and stage presence. Mae had none of that. I called this the very day this song/artist was announced. As host nation, to come second from Bottom is really, really poor.
May 14, 20232 yr As host nation, to come second from bottom is really, really poor. It's actually quite common for the host nation to do poorly nowadays: 2023 | 25th | United Kingdom 2022 | 06th | Italy 2021 | 23rd | Netherlands 2020 | N/A 2019 | 23rd | Israel 2018 | 26th | Portugal 2017 | 24th | Ukraine 2016 | 05th | Sweden 2015 | 26th | Austria 2014 | 09th | Denmark 2013 | 14th | Sweden
May 14, 20232 yr The worst thing about us doing so poorly is we will probably not be sending a female bop again for a while. It’ll be a male power vocalist similar to Sam singing a ballad. Mae will be fine and the song will probably be a hit so won’t really affect her. She was never going to win anyway so no one will care tomorrow where she came.
May 14, 20232 yr Thankfully the press are being level headed and not the usual cry of let’s withdraw, it’s political etc., I think Mae has done wonders for the show by entering a song that is current, that radio stations took too immediately as it’s the type of music they play etc., - I really hope she can build a decent career off the back of it and we’re past ESC being a career kiss of death https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65586989.amp This article speaks a lot of sense. I think we just got it wrong, probably too much emphasis on TikTok. It might work again in the future, but it obviously did't this year.
May 14, 20232 yr The worst thing about us doing so poorly is we will probably not be sending a female bop again for a while. It’ll be a male power vocalist similar to Sam singing a ballad. Mae will be fine and the song will probably be a hit so won’t really affect her. She was never going to win anyway so no one will care tomorrow where she came. ‘She was never going to win anyway’!!! The point is we should only be entering a great song/singer because we want to win!!! It’s a buggery competition after all!!! The clue is in the title! Entering generic rubbish/poor performers are never going to cut it. I also disagree, I think this is (or should be) the kiss of death for Mae as a performer. And if this was the best song she could come up with, I have doubts for any future success.
May 14, 20232 yr ‘She was never going to win anyway’!!! The point is we should only be entering a great song/singer because we want to win!!! It’s a buggery competition after all!!! The clue is in the title! Entering generic rubbish/poor performers are never going to cut it. I also disagree, I think this is (or should be) the kiss of death for Mae as a performer. And if this was the best song she could come up with, I have doubts for any future success. This is a lot of energy for a song competition. Like does it really matter? It’s supposed to be a fun night with some good music. No one’s career should be over because they had a bit of a bad result. She’s also already got a huge song with nearly 400m streams so I’m sure she’ll be fine.
May 14, 20232 yr So disappointed with its results. Was it the most amazing vocal/staging - No, however the song is an absolute bop, she gave loads of attitude and fun and I still think it was a great performance, 25th seems harsh. I could think 15-20 at lowest was more deserved! The song is rubbish, that’s why we didn’t do well. Sam Ryder deservingly did well last year because it was a great record and his performance of mountain shows he won’t be just a flash in the pan.
May 14, 20232 yr I think my only issue with the result is second to last was so not the position she deserved. I personally think the song is really catchy and is like something Dua Lipa would sing or Jess Glynn with more of a disco vibe, it could easily be a big hit in Europe. I get what the BBC article is saying, there were other stronger sassy females there which possibly took her vote but there was also so pretty poor songs and some very bland ballads which performed better and did not deserve to. I don't think she deserved to win, I think the top 2 were the right top 2 (although I wish they had been the other way round) but she was easily in the top 10 songs for me. I really don't get the critique of her vocals I thought she sounded really good on the night and again there were some other vocals which were quite terrible, Ukraine's for example he just sounded so nervous throughout their performance.
May 14, 20232 yr When I first heard I Wrote a Song, I didn't think it was that great and didn't have high hopes. But it's grown on me with repeated listens and I do find myself singing it randomly. The performances in the build up have been iffy, but the jury performance was really quite good. The final performance wasn't her best and all I received from friends who hadn't seen other performances she'd done was that it wasn't very good. But I don't think she deserved 25th place. I think at one point she was around 21st and I thought that if she could stick around that then it wouldn't be the worst (not in the bottom 5).
May 14, 20232 yr I think my only issue with the result is second to last was so not the position she deserved. I personally think the song is really catchy and is like something Dua Lipa would sing or Jess Glynn with more of a disco vibe, it could easily be a big hit in Europe. I get what the BBC article is saying, there were other stronger sassy females there which possibly took her vote but there was also so pretty poor songs and some very bland ballads which performed better and did not deserve to. I don't think she deserved to win, I think the top 2 were the right top 2 (although I wish they had been the other way round) but she was easily in the top 10 songs for me. I really don't get the critique of her vocals I thought she sounded really good on the night and again there were some other vocals which were quite terrible, Ukraine's for example he just sounded so nervous throughout their performance. We saw a different performance: in a roomful of people at my Eurovision party, 7 of us all rated Mae at the very bottom. The song and performance didn’t deserve to do any better.
May 14, 20232 yr She didn’t deserve second to last, but I don’t think she deserved left hand side of the table either!
May 14, 20232 yr Aside from Sam Ryder (who I fear may be a fluke for the UK for now..) how are the commitee for our entry so out of touch for what to send, do they actually watch the contest. I think a few of us forum members and Twitter users could decide the next UK entry and have it finish at least top ten :lol: Poor Mae she must be gutted but that song is an Anne-Marie reject at best and pretty much every other female on the night outsang and outperformed her.
May 14, 20232 yr I think this feels different to our other flops from recent years. The result obviously isn't great and couldn't be painted as such, but I don't think we have anything to be embarrassed about. The song/performance didn't click, but we TRIED. That's what matters here, and this time, it feels like the UK isn't a laughing stock as a result. Mae was popular among Eurofans and the song had a fanbase too, just not enough for mass appeal on the night. I think we can easily move forward and get back up to the top of the leaderboard as long as the UK's attitude doesn't go back to "political voting, Europe hates us, brexit, etc". We just need to regroup and come back stronger next time, with particular attention paid to finding someone who is a more competent performer than Mae. The song's still my favourite of Eurovision this year, I love it and I think it's strong (albeit not really likely to appeal to Europe, it's very UK-centric in sound), but the performance lacked energy and it really needed some backing vocals to add extra oomph. If we keep positive, we can bring all of this next year without too much effort.
May 14, 20232 yr Aside from Sam Ryder (who I fear may be a fluke for the UK for now..) how are the commitee for our entry so out of touch for what to send, do they actually watch the contest. I think a few of us forum members and Twitter users could decide the next UK entry and have it finish at least top ten :lol: Poor Mae she must be gutted but that song is an Anne-Marie reject at best and pretty much every other female on the night outsang and outperformed her. They’ve sent a very UK song that is likely to be a decent sized hit and is akin to what’s in our charts so what should they do - send a ‘Eurovision’ song? We’ve tried that before and failed miserably - I’d rather do what Germany tried this year and send something that as a country they are interested in and would listen to.
May 14, 20232 yr Yeah, I’d much rather be sending current sounding songs like the past 3 years than those from the You Decide days. Some will resonate and some won’t but as long as we’re actually trying and not starting from the back foot going ‘will this do?’. There were stronger songs this year in terms of actual quality and public appeal but it is just sad that this results means its seen as on par with some of the dirge we have sent recently, especially given the enthusiasm that Mae brought to the contest. It is still a risky opportunity for any upcoming artist to take in the UK (one year isn’t going to flip that on its head) so I’m thankful she did grasp it with both hands. I think we definitely need to stick with internal selection for the time being in order to work with labels to get the right standard of performer. The perception is changing but its still very early days to have a You Decide contest as labels won’t want to put forward acts if they’re going to lose. It needs to be at that level where the You Decide contest gives a good level of exposure itself for artists.
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