But according to some, it should be doing this without Hot Hits off the back of 'Padam Padam' <_<

 

Yes, the streaming powerhouse that is Kylie should be leaping up the charts off the back of a #8 UK hit.

 

I’m sure the trolls make it up as they go along on here :lol:

Did Griff manage to re enter the top 200 from Taylor promoting her song on her insta?

 

No.

In my opinion, new Kylie should be doing better, it's not doing bad but should be doing better

Padam Padam should have made her more popular within the streaming generation

not to the point of debuting at #1 but to the point of doing better than #200-300

that's not trolling, that's an opinion

Idk if I was included in that "some people" but that wasn't what I (personally) meant at all... (I presume it's a certain someone else it was targeted at but still, I wanna elaborate a lil)

 

My (personal) point was that people were somewhat surprised it had a bigger debut/better hold than 'Padam Padam' as if it was a surprising thing to happen? I assumed that was going to happen due to PP being a big viral moment, setting 'Tension' up to have a stronger debut and opening weekend, just down to PP bringing some renewed casual interest to Kylie. I absolutely knew that now that the weekend is over Hot Hits/Playlisting in general, is going to be important and needed now that the fanbase & casual initial listens are done with. (and as I stated - I appreciate it doesn't always work out that way, but usually they get a higher debut and vanish after initial hype wears off and make a return/linger a little longer than the previous release did, depending how well received the song is beyond initial hype).

 

I don't think her spending the weekend in the top 200 is a "disappointment" or even an "under performance" at all (like someone else suggested). I think it's done just about what I expected really. Now as I said a moment ago, I agree that Hot Hits etc.. is more important from this point on.

 

I'm rubbish with words but hopefully you all understand more now what I was *trying* to say at least :lol:

In my opinion, new Kylie should be doing better, it's not doing bad but should be doing better

Padam Padam should have made her more popular within the streaming generation

not to the point of debuting at #1 but to the point of doing better than #200-300

that's not trolling, that's an opinion

 

How many songs by artists generally not known for having streaming smashes climb the top 200 without Hot Hits, unless they're gone viral on Tik Tok or something similar. Padam was a great hit for Kylie, but it peaked at #8, it wasn't some all-encompassing #1 smash.

 

And to be honest, I'd say Padam has helped. It's #31 on Apple Music, and spent 4 days in the top 200, all of which I assume would not have happened without that.

Edited September 6, 20231 yr by 365

I think we've seen many times now that having one big hit doesn't get you a second, whether it's Cat Burns or LF System etc, unless you're an established streaming era artist like Dua and even she can struggle sometimes. For an artist like Kylie who doesn't have a big streaming foothold I think it would have been unwise to expect lightning to strike twice - to me the single is doing as well as could have been expected really.

In my opinion, new Kylie should be doing better, it's not doing bad but should be doing better

Padam Padam should have made her more popular within the streaming generation

not to the point of debuting at #1 but to the point of doing better than #200-300

that's not trolling, that's an opinion

You're entitled to your opinion by all means, but your expectations are - in my opinion - very high and unrealistic. As mentioned, Tension is not experiencing notable virality, which was a key element in Padam Padam's success story. Padam doing extraordinarily well for Kylie came with no guarantees of making "Kylie more popular within the streaming generation", but Padam has quite clearly had a good effect for Tension to have spent 4 days straight in the Top 200. Now its playlisting needs to grow, Hots Hits UK being key, of course. Without this, I just don't see how Tension could be expected to be riding high in the Top 200 a few days into its release.

In my opinion, new Kylie should be doing better, it's not doing bad but should be doing better

Padam Padam should have made her more popular within the streaming generation

not to the point of debuting at #1 but to the point of doing better than #200-300

that's not trolling, that's an opinion

 

It kind of is, though. Especially when I've seen you in the past berate people for "not knowing how streaming works" for expecting something to be charting without a Hot Hits add or even expecting an act to get a second hit automatically, so it's dumbfounding you're suddenly taking this angle.

Spotify Chart Update (05/09)

 

01 01 Doja Cat – Paint The Town Red 598,350

02 02 Dave, Central Cee – Sprinter 429,684

03 03 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 318,485

04 04 Dua Lipa – Dance The Night - From Barbie The Album 304,168

05 05 Peggy Gou – (It Goes Like) Nanana - Edit 297,867

06 08 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 291,682 [*PEAK*]

07 06 Olivia Rodrigo – vampire 285,731

08 09 Fred again.., Obongjayar – adore u 277,650 [*PEAK*]

09 07 Billie Eilish – What Was I Made For? [From The Motion Picture "Barbie"] 269,713

10 10 Gunna – fukumean 242,152

 

11 12 Chase & Status, Bou, Flowdan, IRAH, Trigga, Takura – Baddadan (feat. IRAH, Flowdan, Trigga & Takura) 239,472 [*PEAK*]

12 11 Becky Hill, Chase & Status – Disconnect 238,214

13 13 Olivia Rodrigo – bad idea right? 208,740

14 15 Calvin Harris, Sam Smith – Desire (with Sam Smith) 194,001 [*PEAK*]

15 16 Jazzy – Giving Me 187,905

16 14 Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice, Aqua – Barbie World (with Aqua) [From Barbie The Album] 187,057

17 18 Charli XCX – Speed Drive (From Barbie The Album) 182,956

18 17 Hannah Laing, RoRo – Good Love 181,617

19 19 The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna – Popular (with Playboi Carti & Madonna) - Music from the HBO Original Series 172,272

20 21 Kenya Grace – Strangers 162,865 [*PEAK*]

 

21 20 David Kushner – Daylight 158,895

22 22 Calvin Harris, Ellie Goulding – Miracle (with Ellie Goulding) 154,620

23 28 Sonny Fodera, MK, Clementine Douglas – Asking 149,290 [*PEAK*]

24 26 Miley Cyrus – Used To Be Young 144,839

25 24 Taylor Swift – Anti-Hero 144,055

26 23 Harry Styles – As It Was 143,752

27 27 Miley Cyrus – Flowers 140,877

28 25 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 139,521

29 29 J Hus, Drake – Who Told You (feat. Drake) 135,572

30 31 D.O.D – So Much In Love 134,812

 

31 33 Jorja Smith – Little Things x Gypsy Woman - L BEATS MASHUP 134,132

32 30 SZA – Kill Bill 133,672

33 32 Nathan Dawe, Joel Corry, Ella Henderson – 0800 HEAVEN 131,695

34 37 Troye Sivan – Rush 130,910

35 34 Taylor Swift – Style 125,293

36 35 PinkPantheress, Ice Spice – Boy's a Liar Pt. 2 120,642

37 38 Rema, Selena Gomez – Calm Down (with Selena Gomez) 120,180

38 36 Rudimental, Charlotte Plank, Vibe Chemistry – Dancing is Healing 119,622

39 39 Florence + The Machine – Dog Days Are Over 117,902

40 46 Anne-Marie, Shania Twain – UNHEALTHY (feat. Shania Twain) 115,649

 

41 41 Frank Ocean – Pink + White 114,768

42 48 ANOTR, Abel Balder – Relax My Eyes 114,746

45 42 Jung Kook, Latto – Seven (feat. Latto) (Explicit Ver.) 113,058

47 51 Burna Boy, Dave – Cheat On Me (feat. Dave) 112,715

49 44 Oliver Anthony Music – Rich Men North of Richmond 109,127

51 54 Bou, Slay – Closer 107,068

55 57 Selena Gomez – Single Soon 103,345

59 66 Stormzy, RAYE – The Weekend 101,824

68 71 Travis Scott, Drake – MELTDOWN (feat. Drake) 96,029

70 65 D-Block Europe, Clavish – Pakistan 95,464

73 81 Burna Boy – City Boys 93,850

77 76 Travis Scott, SZA, Future – TELEKINESIS (feat. SZA & Future) 92,723

79 79 Turno, Skepsis, Charlotte Plank – Rave Out 92,464

80 88 Issey Cross – Bittersweet Goodbye 91,473 [*PEAK*]

84 78 Travis Scott – I KNOW ? 90,375

 

116 131 Jazzy – Feel It - Club Edit 79,954 [*PEAK*]

127 94 Ryan Gosling – I’m Just Ken (From Barbie The Album) 77,287

134 133 Tion Wayne, Nines – AMEN 75,056

143 152 Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves – I Remember Everything (feat. Kacey Musgraves) 72,591

145 150 Jungle – Back On 74 72,416 [*PEAK*]

146 163 Luke Combs – Fast Car 72,389

151 121 Doja Cat – Demons 71,592

167 RE Lana Del Rey – Radio 68,410

168 154 Kali Uchis – Moonlight 68,408

Apple Music Chart Update (05-06/09)

 

01 01 Doja Cat - Paint The Town Red

02 02 Dave & Central Cee - Sprinter

03 03 Becky Hill & Chase & Status - Disconnect

04 05 Olivia Rodrigo - vampire

05 07 Calvin Harris & Sam Smith - Desire

06 04 Dua Lipa - Dance The Night

07 06 Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer

08 08 cassö, RAYE & D-Block Europe - Prada

09 11 Fred again.. & Obongjayar - adore u

10 09 Burna Boy - Cheat On Me (feat. Dave)

 

11 10 Peggy Gou - (It Goes Like) Nanana (Edit)

12 12 Sonny Fodera & MK - Asking (feat. Clementine Douglas)

13 13 Rudimental, Charlotte Plank & Vibe Chemistry - Dancing is Healing

14 14 Hannah Laing & RoRo - Good Love

15 15 Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? [From The Motion Picture "Barbie"]

16 16 Chase & Status & Bou - Baddadan (feat. IRah, Flowdan, Trigga & Takura)

17 17 D.O.D - So Much in Love

18 18 Stormzy & RAYE - The Weekend

19 19 Gunna - fukumean

20 20 Burna Boy - City Boys

 

21 21 Jazzy - Giving Me

22 22 Ev Wilde, Shanice Griffin & David Ryan - Here We Go Again

23 23 Nathan Dawe, Joel Corry & Ella Henderson - 0800 HEAVEN

24 24 Calvin Harris & Ellie Goulding - Miracle

25 25 Anne-Marie - UNHEALTHY (feat. Shania Twain)

26 26 Olivia Rodrigo - bad idea right?

27 27 Switch Disco & Ella Henderson - REACT

28 28 Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down

29 31 Joel Corry, MK & Rita Ora - Drinkin'

30 30 Nicki Minaj & Ice Spice - Barbie World (with Aqua)

 

31 29 Kylie Minogue - Tension

32 32 Tom Grennan - How Does It Feel

33 34 Selena Gomez - Single Soon

34 35 Loreen - Tattoo

35 36 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero

36 33 Miley Cyrus - Flowers

37 37 Miley Cyrus - Used To Be Young

38 39 J Hus - Who Told You (feat. Drake)

39 40 Post Malone - Chemical

40 38 Jazzy - Feel It (Club Edit)

 

42 42 Tion Wayne & Nines - AMEN

43 45 Issey Cross - Bittersweet Goodbye

44 44 Charli XCX - Speed Drive

49 49 Prinz & Gabriela Bee - Highs & Lows

50 50 Turno, Skepsis & Charlotte Plank - Rave Out

51 51 Luke Combs - Fast Car

52 53 Hannah Laing & HVRR - Party All The Time

57 61 Tiësto - Drifting

58 79 Kenya Grace - Strangers

60 56 Oliver Anthony Music - Rich Men North of Richmond

65 67 Bou - Closer (feat. Slay)

84 92 Toddla T & Aitch - Hide N Seek (feat. Taet)

86 93 Billy Gillies - DNA (Loving You) [feat. Hannah Boleyn]

88 88 Troye Sivan - Rush

91 91 Davido - UNAVAILABLE (feat. Musa Keys)

 

111 121 Sigma - Adrenaline Rush (feat. Morgan)

117 119 Oxlade - INTOXYCATED (feat. Dave)

123 118 Asake - Lonely At The Top

124 131 Travis Scott - TELEKINESIS (feat. SZA & Future)

125 133 Travis Scott - MELTDOWN (feat. Drake)

131 108 Ryan Gosling - I’m Just Ken

144 153 D.O.D & Jax Jones - Need You Now

145 148 Hybrid Minds & venbee - If Love Could Have Saved You

158 128 Nicki Minaj - Last Time I Saw You

164 174 Zach Bryan - I Remember Everything (feat. Kacey Musgraves)

167 171 Drake & Central Cee - On The Radar Freestyle

189 190 Dave & Tiakola - Meridian

197 RE ANOTR & Abel Balder - Relax My Eyes

Yes, the streaming powerhouse that is Kylie should be leaping up the charts off the back of a #8 UK hit.

 

I’m sure the trolls make it up as they go along on here :lol:

 

:lol: They do!!

 

I'll say it again: if Kylie had a streaming name on thw track, we'd be talking about a no.1 here. What an BOP!

I think we've seen many times now that having one big hit doesn't get you a second, whether it's Cat Burns or LF System etc, unless you're an established streaming era artist like Dua and even she can struggle sometimes. For an artist like Kylie who doesn't have a big streaming foothold I think it would have been unwise to expect lightning to strike twice - to me the single is doing as well as could have been expected really.

Padam Padam wasn’t just a big hit though, like those songs you mentioned (also, it does depend on how well received the follow up single is too - and ‘Tension’ has (for the most part) been incredibly well received). Padam Padam was a major (positive) viral moment that’s still kinda felt after all these months, which translated into being a big hit and so I just assumed that naturally, initial interest would be higher than usual in a follow up from her (and it has been).

 

I agree that it’s done pretty much as I expected so far. Now we gotta wait and see what kinda playlisting it gets that can help it become a hit of some sort.

I think Padam Padam felt bigger than it was when looking at numbers but I don't live in the UK so I bet it's different there.

:lol: They do!!

 

I'll say it again: if Kylie had a streaming name on thw track, we'd be talking about a no.1 here. What an BOP!

 

I think it's much more special she's achieving all this on her own without having to go down that route.

Edited September 6, 20231 yr by Jessie Where

Didn't spot Loreen climbing again in the Apple top 40!

I dont even think Padam was that big? It was big but it was not massive in any way

I dont even think Padam was that big? It was big but it was not massive in any way

 

If you put it into context it was hun, it was by a legacy artist, a mature woman who usually never gets playlist support on streaming on any of the big playlists and gets no playlisting on "youth" radio. So hun, yes it was. Plus the charts at the time were very competitive. Sales wise, it will be coming for 300k soon. Which is great for an artist that is not o"on trend" plus as others have pointed out hun, she did this with no feature.

 

Just Carol Honey ❤️

LOL. Kylie coming for her biggest debut in decades and still she has the haters. Lets hope the Singing Budgie proves people wrong again.

Yeah I'd say for what it was 'Padam Padam' selling 300k+ is a big hit and it'll continue selling some more by year end and this is considering the fact she's in her mid 50's and hadn't had a hit in 12 years too!

Kylie hadn't had a hit in 12 years too!

I'd say Dancing was a moderate / cute hit for her. :magic: