Is there going to be a separate election night thread?

 

We didn't last time but I'm not against it if there's enough interest - of course it's likely to not be over after one night and indeed last time's thread lasted us all the way through to inauguration due to Jan 6th.

 

Genuinely have no idea what way this one is going to go. Think it’d be a terrible message for humanity if Kamala won. You can essentially fund the worst evil known to man and still be heralded due to human impulses to revert to lifelong biases and tribalism.

I had to read this several times to see whether I had misinterpreted it, or if you mistyped. However, I had to conclude that you really are supporting a convicted criminal who has openly invited Russia to invade NATO countries.

We didn't last time but I'm not against it if there's enough interest - of course it's likely to not be over after one night and indeed last time's thread lasted us all the way through to inauguration due to Jan 6th.

 

Doubt we need one tbh

Election night thread would be good x

I wouldn’t mind one, the campaign and the night are two seperate things if I was searching for the thread in the future.

Genuinely have no idea what way this one is going to go. Think it’d be a terrible message for humanity if Kamala won. You can essentially fund the worst evil known to man and still be heralded due to human impulses to revert to lifelong biases and tribalism.

I’m pretty sure we’ve seen worse things in the world. it’s not an excuse but if you are comparing them as potential president, the choice is crystal clear.

Yes a new thread would be good.

I’m pretty sure we’ve seen worse things in the world. it’s not an excuse but if you are comparing them as potential president, the choice is crystal clear.

 

Worse than burning people alive in tents with bombs and weapons supplied even after 12 months of pure brutality? All in 4k for the world to see? Can’t think of anything worse in my lifetime certainly not that was clearly enabled and funded by the US Gov. to do that and get almost a hundred million votes or win an election it’s a bleak message, one terrorist groups will be using to radicalize for decades I think. I don’t even see what Kamala is offering or is good for foreign policy horrors aside either? Pretty much similar on the border, fracking etc. the Economy isn’t up to much, what’s this great need for her to win? Abortion? Something she can’t do anything about if they could they would have the past few years. Just some craziness fearmongering about project2025 which is basically sharia law for super fundamentalist Christian’s and clearly not a serious thing for mainstream America and Trump is nothing to do with. I know people don’t want to view it in these terms but Kamala winning is basically saying genocide isn’t a red-line which is an horrendous message

Edited November 5, 2024Nov 5 by Liam sota

The actual f***?? She has argued against it! What power do you think she had as vp?

Worse than burning people alive in tents with bombs and weapons supplied even after 12 months of pure brutality? All in 4k for the world to see? Can’t think of anything worse in my lifetime certainly not that was clearly enabled and funded by the US Gov. to do that and get almost a hundred million votes or win an election it’s a bleak message, one terrorist groups will be using to radicalize for decades I think. I don’t even see what Kamala is offering or is good for foreign policy horrors aside either? Pretty much similar on the border, fracking etc. the Economy isn’t up to much, what’s this great need for her to win? Abortion? Something she can’t do anything about if they could they would have the past few years. Just some craziness fearmongering about project2025 which is basically sharia law for super fundamentalist Christian’s and clearly not a serious thing for mainstream America and Trump is nothing to do with. I know people don’t want to view it in these terms but Kamala winning is basically saying genocide isn’t a red-line which is an horrendous message

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

 

(bonus: the Americans and the presidential candidate were even actually responsible for that one)

Kamala winning is:

 

A) an important reminder that fascism is not welcome and is not a path to election victory.

B) an opportunity to start the process of moving beyond the horrendously divisive and dangerous rhetoric of the Trump decade

C) a clear message that the US recognises that the situation in Palestine is wrong and Israel/Netanyahu are guilty of very serious crimes, BUT the solution is not Trumps approach of “let them do whatever they want as long as I’m not involved” or Jill Stein’s fantasy scenarios.

 

I fully understand potential frustration with Biden/Democrats more generally - he/they haven’t handled the war as I would have liked, however it should be abundantly clear to anyone who hasn’t had their mind warped by right wing social media that what Trump is offering is orders of magnitude worse for both Palestine and global security.

The important thing about abortion is that the more states that are wrestled away from being red states, the more one can do - and the promise made by the Harris campaign is to restore abortion rights federally so it actually is pretty damn important.

 

Fundamentally most voters do not care about foreign policy and that's far more true in the US than it is in the UK, there's not the demographics for it, and it's all further away. Even if you're someone clinging to 'Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris', a somewhat understandable position especially for Biden, whose natural sympathies to Israel have botched the US response, the median voter is so far away from thinking that way or having it matter to their vote. They're actually far more likely to vote to punish anti-democratic decisions, something that's been constantly seen in western democracies.

 

(that said, economy tends to trump all but the candidates have moved to be more even on this with Trump slightly ahead, rather than the big lead he had when Biden dropped out)

Worse than burning people alive in tents with bombs and weapons supplied even after 12 months of pure brutality? All in 4k for the world to see? Can’t think of anything worse in my lifetime certainly not that was clearly enabled and funded by the US Gov. to do that and get almost a hundred million votes or win an election it’s a bleak message, one terrorist groups will be using to radicalize for decades I think. I don’t even see what Kamala is offering or is good for foreign policy horrors aside either? Pretty much similar on the border, fracking etc. the Economy isn’t up to much, what’s this great need for her to win? Abortion? Something she can’t do anything about if they could they would have the past few years. Just some craziness fearmongering about project2025 which is basically sharia law for super fundamentalist Christian’s and clearly not a serious thing for mainstream America and Trump is nothing to do with. I know people don’t want to view it in these terms but Kamala winning is basically saying genocide isn’t a red-line which is an horrendous message

Don't be weird

Worse than burning people alive in tents with bombs and weapons supplied even after 12 months of pure brutality? All in 4k for the world to see? Can’t think of anything worse in my lifetime certainly not that was clearly enabled and funded by the US Gov. to do that and get almost a hundred million votes or win an election it’s a bleak message, one terrorist groups will be using to radicalize for decades I think. I don’t even see what Kamala is offering or is good for foreign policy horrors aside either? Pretty much similar on the border, fracking etc. the Economy isn’t up to much, what’s this great need for her to win? Abortion? Something she can’t do anything about if they could they would have the past few years. Just some craziness fearmongering about project2025 which is basically sharia law for super fundamentalist Christian’s and clearly not a serious thing for mainstream America and Trump is nothing to do with. I know people don’t want to view it in these terms but Kamala winning is basically saying genocide isn’t a red-line which is an horrendous message

I'm not sure what you think the endgame should be other than people not voting/voting third party which is what a lot of the pro-palestine camp are doing (will not be doing the same personally as I live in a swing county but to each their own)

Edited November 5, 2024Nov 5 by dhwe

also the end of roe (something that did happen, is not a hypothetical, and has had dire consequences) was kind of the precursor to "fear mongering about project 2025" and "something trump had to do with" via his Supreme Court picks. yes it's possible people are voting based on the consequences of the previous administration's policies and in anticipation of what's to come if he comes back into power. wtf are you even talking about? lmfao

No wonder he was so desperate to big uo Tories and Trump lmao. He's all in with them! Mask slipped.

Trump well ahead so far in Florida so my US Fb friend says. She works for CNN.

Florida will be a safe Rep seat!

Trump well ahead so far in Florida so my US Fb friend says. She works for CNN.

 

I assume thats referring to large number of registered Republican voters voting

 

But if a lot of those registered women Republican voters are voting for Harris as we saw in the Selzer Iowa poll then it could be a red mirage.

 

Or it could be a crazy election where Trump does well in the southern states but does badly in the northern states.

Edited November 5, 2024Nov 5 by TheSnake

If we're going to be posting the early Florida signs we should also be posting this, I'm not letting bad faith Trump supporters get away with anything on my watch.

 

@1853823893846229077

 

Nevada looking good ladies and gentlemen.