Nice to see Unwritten still climbing, it was such a modest hit in the UK back in the day. I remember the day I bought her brilliant debut album I thought 'this is a monster of a pop song' and was miffed that it had such a limp chart run in the UK when pushed as a single, particularly compared to what it later went on to achieve in the US. Glad to see it finally having a second wind in this country.

 

Apart from These Words, Natasha's UK career was like a textbook series of misfires and missed opportunities. I Wanna Have Your Babies must be one of the most disastrous lead singles ever, yet still the campaign had a second hit in it with the beautiful Soulmate. I do understand why they might not have wanted to lead with a ballad but midtempo Say It Again, written with Adam Levine (who is also on backing vocals), would have given a good promotional hook and it was also a far better track which radio would have lapped up. Despite all of that, she still could have got her career right back on track with Pocketful of Sunshine but it wasn't even pushed here :drama:

 

As for Ariana, to me it always seems that popstars doing this 90s dance style don't often get huge No.1 singles out of that sound (in 2024 it's not going to have as much mass appeal to her core audience as something more R&B leaning), but I still think it will have legs and become a club anthem of sorts and do well over time, even if it does miss No.1 this week - depends how the physicals boost it.

Apart from These Words, Natasha's UK career was like a textbook series of misfires and missed opportunities. I Wanna Have Your Babies must be one of the most disastrous lead singles ever, yet still the campaign had a second hit in it with the beautiful Soulmate. I do understand why they might not have wanted to lead with a ballad but midtempo Say It Again, written with Adam Levine (who is also on backing vocals), would have given a good promotional hook and it was also a far better track which radio would have lapped up. Despite all of that, she still could have got her career right back on track with Pocketful of Sunshine but it wasn't even pushed here :drama:

 

Completely agree. Natasha could have maintained a successful career - but something went really wrong.

Why does Mitski do so badly on Apple Music

Nice to see Unwritten still climbing, it was such a modest hit in the UK back in the day. I remember the day I bought her brilliant debut album I thought 'this is a monster of a pop song' and was miffed that it had such a limp chart run in the UK when pushed as a single, particularly compared to what it later went on to achieve in the US. Glad to see it finally having a second wind in this country.

 

Apart from These Words, Natasha's UK career was like a textbook series of misfires and missed opportunities. I Wanna Have Your Babies must be one of the most disastrous lead singles ever, yet still the campaign had a second hit in it with the beautiful Soulmate. I do understand why they might not have wanted to lead with a ballad but midtempo Say It Again, written with Adam Levine (who is also on backing vocals), would have given a good promotional hook and it was also a far better track which radio would have lapped up. Despite all of that, she still could have got her career right back on track with Pocketful of Sunshine but it wasn't even pushed here :drama:

 

I think because 'Unwritten' was a post-album single near Christmas from an album that had already sold a lot, it did about as well as could be expected at the time.

 

'I Wanna Have Your Babies' is what I think of as one of the ultimate career-killing singles in pop, which is a shame as the second album was actually good! They totally should've led with 'Say It Again'.

 

I'll never understand why they didn't push 'Pocketful of Sunshine' in 2008, I'm convinced that could've actually been a top 5 hit!

I think because 'Unwritten' was a post-album single near Christmas from an album that had already sold a lot, it did about as well as could be expected at the time.

 

'I Wanna Have Your Babies' is what I think of as one of the ultimate career-killing singles in pop, which is a shame as the second album was actually good! They totally should've led with 'Say It Again'.

 

I'll never understand why they didn't push 'Pocketful of Sunshine' in 2008, I'm convinced that could've actually been a top 5 hit!

 

Yes, NB was a really good album! And then they made it even better with the US Pocketful of Sunshine album, which took the best songs from that (apart from (No More) What If's) and added a few new really good ones. And it just...got no release at all here apart from that Sean Kingston collab. I really thought they'd push the title track in summer 2008 after that did ok and made the top 20.

 

In hindsight, I think they could have released the album here in 2008 and got a big top ten single with the title track and had a steady album seller, a bit like The Saturdays' Headlines repackage idea a couple of years later.

What??? NB is a terrible album!! A massive sophmore slump. It has dire lyrics, dire, maudlin beats, ans is very MOR-by-numbers. Nothing could have saved it.

What??? NB is a terrible album!! A massive sophmore slump. It has dire lyrics, dire, maudlin beats, ans is very MOR-by-numbers. Nothing could have saved it.

 

I don't think the lyrics are any less "dire" than what she normally comes up with, except for a couple of tracks. I think this could have saved it and made for a potentially decent-performing era:

 

1. Say It Again

2. Soulmate

3. Not Givin' Up (maybe slightly remixed for a single version)

 

Then do 'Pocketful of Sunshine' a few months later. She'd have probably lasted a bit longer with that plan.

The prkblem was she was euahed ro do NB, and we got an awful MOR album. PoS would have smashed, but she didn't have time to include it on thr album due to rushing. She then just seemed to give up on thr UK afyer the flop and focused on the usa, where she was still smashing, but with a new album.

it was the curse of the Beddingfields!!! Daniel started even better (three #1s out of his debut album) and finished even sooner :(

Is that worse than curse of Eliza :thinking:

She just needed more taaarm fot a better album!! PoS was a much much better album, but she needed anoother 1 or 2 years, was it?, to make it. Thrn again, I doubt thw record company wanted her to have a huge gap between first and second eras, so we ended up with throwaway mor. Maaybe this could have worked:

 

1. Babies

2. Soulmate

3. Say it Again

4. Pirate Bones

 

Go straight into PoS album. N.B would still have flopped though

This country loves to make British female artists one era wonders so even with a perfect campaign I have doubts it would make a difference tbh! Can’t really blame her for giving up on us

She just needed more taaarm fot a better album!! PoS was a much much better album, but she needed anoother 1 or 2 years, was it?, to make it. Thrn again, I doubt thw record company wanted her to have a huge gap between first and second eras, so we ended up with throwaway mor. Maaybe this could have worked:

 

1. Babies

2. Soulmate

3. Say it Again

4. Pirate Bones

 

Go straight into PoS album. N.B would still have flopped though

 

The difference between the first and second album was already 3 years, and 2 years since the era finished. 'Babies' really should not have happened.

I’m guessing Ella Henderson with Alibi isn’t anywhere on the Spotify chart?

She rose 10% ish worldwide but lost streams in the US. They really don’t like it (but still

Number 1 with a small lead).

I hate to think what their opinion is of #200 then...!

A new track gaining again after the weekend?

 

Noah Kahan and Sam Fender are releasing a version of Noah’s (I assume?? I’ve not heard it so idk if Sam’s snippet is that or a new song lol) ‘Homesick’ on Friday.

 

I wonder how that’ll do? Maybe a top 100 entry Spotify debut and then out to not be seen again bar a fleeting re-entry into the top 200 every other day or something?

I have a feeling this will be more like northern attitude cos it has much more hype than the collabs with Kacey Musgraves, gracie Abrams or Lizzy mcalpine!

Might do similarly to 'Northern Attitude' possibly? (Although presumably Sam won't get a credit on the OCC website like all these other Noah duets).

Noah Kahan and Sam Fender are releasing a version of Noah’s (I assume?? I’ve not heard it so idk if Sam’s snippet is that or a new song lol) ‘Homesick’ on Friday.

 

I wonder how that’ll do? Maybe a top 100 entry Spotify debut and then out to not be seen again bar a fleeting re-entry into the top 200 every other day or something?

 

I think it’ll do very well I see it trending on twitter he hasn’t quite broke through in America yet but he’s getting there this kind of thing is great exposure