Everything else aside can we please stop with this claim that Ariana is '#1 on every playlist ever'. Yes, it's #1 on Hot Hits UK and Today's Top Hits, and those are the two main ones, but you can just say that without the needless exaggeration. I am genuinely struggling to find a single other Spotify curated playlist where it is at #1 (aside from This Is Ariana Grande lol, and I suppose New Music Friday for all its 1 day of relevance) - the obvious next one to check was The Pop List, and it's #2 there behind 'Houdini'. Notably it doesn't seem to be included at all on any of their dance playlists despite the fact it would fit those perfectly fine.

 

Anyway... not a bad second day for her, still comfortably ahead of Jack Harlow. Still a higher second day total than 'positions' had as well, although a bigger percentage decrease tbf (down 27.7% on day 2 compared to 'positions' dropping 15.9%). Wow at Sophie now breaking 600k! I'd love it if I did write off her chances of hitting #1 too early, still not holding my breath but she has closed the gap to Noah by a fairly impressive amount in just 1 day there, just not sure how long she's still going to continue to increase (I think Kate Bush had started plateauing by around this point into her chart revival?)

 

Pretty decent holds for 21 Savage's album tracks with his (new) top song even climbing a place, still 7 tracks in the top 100 and 13/15 in the top 200 (the ones dropping out being the 1 minute intro track and the closing track which was already a fair way behind the rest yesterday). Meanwhile D-Block Europe are down to only having 1 song from the new album in the top 200 already, with 'Overseas' now taking over again as their 2nd highest song lol (well, 3rd highest including 'Prada').

 

The Ella song is indeed following a pretty normal pattern for new dance hits, if it's bound to be a big hit it will catch on on Spotify within a few weeks but they nearly always do much better earlier on Apple.

And for those who can’t see the full Amazon Chart, it’s currently:

 

1 Sophie EB

2 Noah Kahan &16, 30

3 Jack Harlow &31

4 Taylor, Cruel Summer

5 Eliza & Calvin

6 Teddy Swims

7 Olivia, Vampire

8 Ariana Grande

Any other song and Sophie would get #1 but this Noah song has a unique ability not to get tiresome no matter how many times I’ve heard it so I can’t see her overtaking but she’ll be a solid 2 and looking at iTunes she appears to have 4 versions in the top 100

This is classic moving the goal posts. Before Houdini dropped there was loads of talk it would debut at number 1. Wasn't anything doing any big numbers and she had two physicals. Then it would climb and be a long standing hit and go to number 1 post Christmas, then it would be loads of weeks top 10. Now it is 'well it peaked at #2 and is still charting'.

 

It is easy to see expectations were high and rightly so. It has had the airplay, playlisting, physicals. It just hasn't caught on like people thought it would. That is life, it has under performed it isn't bad to admit that.

 

I think if you read my post again you'll see I said "it hasn't been the gigantic smash I expected"

 

Also if you can find a post where I claimed it would climb to #1 after Christmas I'll give you a medal.

 

Sophie really deserves that #1, I hope she can keep growing

Hope Sophie gets the no.q!!!! Ariana might be able to get a week or two when the album drops, so they can share it

I'll look forward to the ever-bright continual optimism towards Ed or Drake's next lead single. There will be no slamming of them should they miss the top spot right?

 

Amazing that on here of all places, where female popstars get a much easier pass, you want to try and make this arguement about Dua or Ariana. :wacko:

 

Houdini had it been by certain other artists would be dragged through the mud. Lead single, getting ridiculous radio play, 3 physicals, big playlisting, coming from a massive artist and limping through a chart run.

 

This forum has been very kind on Houdini. Ariana remains to be seen how it does.

I would personally like to say, from my own point of view and I don’t think this applies for everyone, I find the negativity of this site and social media in general, really tiring. That applies to Ed and Drake. I guess I just feel more passionately towards calling it out when it’s towards my favourite artists I guess.

 

I think there’s a tendency in life now to wait for people to fall, as I’ve said previously. As if people were waiting to see where Ariana charted to see whether it lived up to their imagination, rather than celebrating that it literally reached the highest position it can. As soon as she charted #1, the goalposts moved to a negative mindset of “well, can she keep it?” rather than “good for her”. That’s how I’ve felt about Houdini - to almost any artist in the world, a #2 peak and a long lasting top 10 would be viewed as a success. It’s only being spoken about in a negative light because people have this tendency to want to discuss people’s pitfalls rather than their peak.

 

When Little Mix were smashing, it was “well they’re not as big as x girl band” or “it won’t last, they’ll break up soon”. When it’s Ed Sheeran, still doing great numbers, it’s “well, it’s nothing compared to the last album”. There’s a real glaring obsession with honing in on negatives rather than going into situations with a positive outlook, which dominates this site or this sub forum imo.

 

I personally like to celebrate the music I like doing well when I come into this thread, I wish more people did the same, as much as discussion is welcome, because it brings such a negative cloud on everything.

Noah - 658K

Sophie - 527k

Ariana - 488K

insane that Noah can do 660K on a Sunday, which is the slowest day of the week

525K for Sophie on a Sunday is also huge and even Ariana's figure is good for a Sunday

 

Unwritten at #18 today yay!!

 

21 Savage - Redrum looks like it's turning into a genuine hit, up to #13 on Spotify today and #14 on Apple

His album also holding up very well, still #10 songs in the t200 despite Sunday not being very kind to his genre...

by comparison, DBE only has 1 track in the top 200 now

Edited January 15, 20241 yr by Bjork

That’s actually a really strong Sunday hold for all the top 3 - if anything Sophie is the worst performer of the 3 from Saturday to Sunday considering how she’s been gaining but maybe MOTD does slightly better on “party days”.

oh I spot Frank Ocean - Thinkin''bout You re-entering!!! can this go viral please!!!!

this is one of his bestest <3

'redrum' has got a music video so I guess it is meant to be the main single from the 21 album despite them putting the Doja collab on NMF.

My Ariana cd shipped so I’m curious if they’ll be included in the sales tonight or not

oh HH updated, added 21 Savage re-drum and DBE... but not Sophie :/

I'm pretty sure it's pronounced as 'red rum', not 're-drum' :kink: (although the reference is just the word murder spelt backwards rather than being about the drink)

 

It's a shame Sophie seems to be getting ignored by HHUK, she's obviously doing fine without it but it could make the difference for her to be #1 if she keeps catching up to Noah.

Yeah it’s a reference to ‘The Shining’. Jack Nicholson is sampled at the end of the track.

 

Spotify Chart Update (14/01)

 

01 01 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 658,649

02 02 Sophie Ellis-Bextor – Murder On The Dancefloor 527,071

03 03 Ariana Grande – yes, and? 488,794

04 04 Jack Harlow – Lovin On Me 381,836

05 05 Tate McRae – greedy 274,796

06 06 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 259,361

07 07 Kenya Grace – Strangers 248,071

08 08 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 247,392

09 09 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 234,624

10 10 The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna – Popular (with Playboi Carti & Madonna) - Music from the HBO Original Series 231,768

 

11 11 Olivia Rodrigo – vampire 211,007

12 14 Vance Joy – Riptide 202,690

13 17 21 Savage – redrum 201,852 [*PEAK*]

14 20 Mitski – My Love Mine All Mine 196,071

15 12 Drake, Sexyy Red, SZA – Rich Baby Daddy (feat. Sexyy Red & SZA) 193,286

16 16 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 190,305

17 13 Tyla – Water 180,957

18 19 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 179,946 [*PEAK*]

19 15 Dave, Central Cee – Sprinter 172,185

20 18 Doja Cat – Paint The Town Red 162,025

 

21 22 Sabrina Carpenter – Feather 161,251

22 28 The Weeknd, JENNIE, Lily-Rose Depp – One Of The Girls (with JENNIE, Lily Rose Depp) 151,760 [*PEAK*]

23 23 21 Savage, Travis Scott, Metro Boomin – née-nah 150,896

24 36 Lord Huron – The Night We Met 149,841

25 29 Billie Eilish – What Was I Made For? [From The Motion Picture "Barbie"] 148,750

26 21 Dua Lipa – Houdini 146,970

27 30 Tate McRae – exes 140,168

28 27 Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves – I Remember Everything (feat. Kacey Musgraves) 139,644

29 35 Flo Milli – Never Lose Me 137,333 [*PEAK*]

30 26 Dua Lipa – Dance The Night - From Barbie The Album 136,056

 

31 25 Chase & Status, Bou, Flowdan, IRAH, Trigga, Takura – Baddadan (feat. IRAH, Flowdan, Trigga & Takura) 135,751

32 31 Taylor Swift – Is It Over Now? (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault) 135,288

33 24 Fred again.., Baby Keem – leavemealone 134,136

34 34 Marvin Gaye, Tammi Terrell – Ain't No Mountain High Enough 133,578

35 38 Kanye West, Pusha T – Runaway 130,152

36 42 Olivia Rodrigo – Can’t Catch Me Now - from The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes 128,472

37 40 Drake – Practice 127,792

38 47 David Kushner – Daylight 127,078

39 33 D-Block Europe, Noizy – Eagle 126,309

40 51 Arctic Monkeys – I Wanna Be Yours 124,686

 

44 39 21 Savage, Doja Cat – n.h.i.e. 117,945

45 67 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen 117,082 [*PEAK*]

48 32 Billy Gillies, Hannah Boleyn – DNA (Loving You) [feat. Hannah Boleyn] 114,789

52 49 Mason, Princess Superstar – Perfect (Exceeder) 109,567

55 41 Zara Larsson, David Guetta – On My Love 108,354

56 54 JID, 21 Savage, Baby Tate – Surround Sound (feat. 21 Savage & Baby Tate) 107,416

67 58 Doja Cat – Agora Hills 99,442

68 48 Sonny Fodera, MK, Clementine Douglas – Asking 98,482

72 56 Paul Russell – Lil Boo Thang 96,685

74 80 Chris Brown – Angel Numbers / Ten Toes 96,387

82 105 The Lumineers – Ophelia 94,147

91 71 Songer, BL@CKBOX – Toxic (Freestyle) 89,768

92 147 TV Girl – Not Allowed 89,301 [*PEAK*]

96 75 Nicki Minaj – Pink Friday Girls 88,929

 

107 154 Tom Odell – Black Friday 85,198

110 83 Nicki Minaj, Lil Uzi Vert – Everybody (feat. Lil Uzi Vert) 83,243

113 127 Noah Kahan, Hozier – Northern Attitude (with Hozier) 82,056

118 95 Nicki Minaj – FTCU 81,195

120 153 Troye Sivan – One Of Your Girls 80,751

142 178 YG Marley – Praise Jah In The Moonlight 76,685 [*PEAK*]

143 130 Bring Me The Horizon – Kool-Aid 76,183

162 168 Travis Scott – MY EYES 72,856

171 183 Lil Tecca – 500lbs 71,357

Spotify: Estimated OCC Rules Top 40 Update

 

01 Noah Kahan – Stick Season

02 Sophie Ellis-Bextor – Murder On The Dancefloor

03 Ariana Grande – yes, and?

04 Jack Harlow – Lovin On Me

05 Tate McRae – greedy

06 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada

07 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer

08 Teddy Swims – Lose Control

09 The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna – Popular (with Playboi Carti & Madonna) - Music from the HBO Original Series

10 21 Savage – redrum

11 Mitski – My Love Mine All Mine

12 Drake, Sexyy Red, SZA – Rich Baby Daddy (feat. Sexyy Red & SZA)

13 Tyla – Water

14 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten

15 Sabrina Carpenter – Feather

16 The Weeknd, JENNIE, Lily-Rose Depp – One Of The Girls (with JENNIE, Lily Rose Depp)

17 21 Savage, Travis Scott, Metro Boomin – née-nah

18 Dua Lipa – Houdini

19 Tate McRae – exes

20 Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves – I Remember Everything (feat. Kacey Musgraves)

21 Flo Milli – Never Lose Me

22 Fred again.., Baby Keem – leavemealone

23 Kanye West, Pusha T – Runaway

24 Olivia Rodrigo – Can’t Catch Me Now - from The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes

25 Drake – Practice

26 D-Block Europe, Noizy – Eagle

27 Kenya Grace – Strangers

28 21 Savage, Doja Cat – n.h.i.e.

29 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen

30 Billy Gillies, Hannah Boleyn – DNA (Loving You) [feat. Hannah Boleyn]

31 Mason, Princess Superstar – Perfect (Exceeder)

32 Zara Larsson, David Guetta – On My Love

33 JID, 21 Savage, Baby Tate – Surround Sound (feat. 21 Savage & Baby Tate)

34 Olivia Rodrigo – vampire

35 Vance Joy – Riptide

36 Doja Cat – Agora Hills

37 Sonny Fodera, MK, Clementine Douglas – Asking

38 Paul Russell – Lil Boo Thang

39 Chris Brown – Angel Numbers / Ten Toes

40 The Killers – Mr. Brightside

YG Marley is (perhaps unsurprisingly) the grandson of Bob Marley.

 

He is not related, however, to rapper YG. :P

 

When did we last have reggae in the charts, surely it wasn't MAGIC! with 'Rude'?

Also no relation to the last Marley to appear in the chart (Naira) :magic: