Sabrina’ success according to buzzjack…

 

A Good Song

Payola

Taylor Swift

Barry Keoghan

Edited June 9, 20241 yr by ElectroBoy

Sabrina’ success according to buzzjack…

 

A Good Song

Payola

Taylor Swift

Barry Keoghan

 

Don’t forget her good age.

 

It's funny but it's kind of mysogynistic, whether intentional or not, to come up with these wild crazy reasons why a female popstar is doing well.

This is the age range that is like peak popularity for celeb stuff like relationships etc

This is the craziest thing I've read on here for a while :blink:

Spotify Chart Update (08/06)

 

01 02 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 915,041 [*PEAK*]

02 01 Eminem – Houdini 894,240

03 03 Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER 733,983

04 08 Sabrina Carpenter – Please Please Please 607,644 [*PEAK*]

05 05 Hozier – Too Sweet 578,379

06 04 Central Cee, Lil Baby – BAND4BAND (feat. Lil Baby) 572,342

07 06 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 568,091

08 07 Billie Eilish – LUNCH 501,907

09 09 Myles Smith – Stargazing 461,385

10 10 Post Malone, Morgan Wallen – I Had Some Help (Feat. Morgan Wallen) 436,488

 

11 11 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 419,727

12 12 Dasha – Austin (Boots Stop Workin') 405,278

13 14 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 367,844

14 13 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY 365,553

15 15 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 358,040

16 16 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 356,442

17 17 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me 347,827

18 19 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 298,956

19 24 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 296,458

20 18 Billie Eilish – CHIHIRO 289,131

 

21 20 Kendrick Lamar – Not Like Us 287,954

22 21 Benson Boone – Slow It Down 285,305

23 22 Mark Ambor – Belong Together 272,553

24 23 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 263,126

25 25 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 240,211

26 26 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start 234,362

27 28 Djo – End of Beginning 219,003

28 29 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 209,337

29 27 Billie Eilish – WILDFLOWER 201,143

30 36 Vance Joy – Riptide 200,228

 

31 32 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love) 195,047

32 33 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait 182,979 [*PEAK*]

33 35 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas) 179,816

34 47 Harry Styles – As It Was 173,562

35 38 Taylor Swift – Down Bad 171,374

36 39 Taylor Swift – Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? 170,052

37 37 Eminem – Without Me 167,779

38 45 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 163,620

39 41 Badger, Natasha Bedingfield – These Words 162,785

40 34 Zach Bryan – Pink Skies 161,826

 

42 48 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited 160,599

44 31 Charli xcx – 360 152,360

47 43 Gunna – one of wun 150,447

48 46 Fred again.., Anderson .Paak, CHIKA – places to be 150,378

49 51 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen 148,277

51 52 Flex (UK), Nate Dogg – 6 In the Morning (feat. Nate Dogg) 146,549 [*PEAK*]

62 53 Teddy Swims – The Door 130,971

63 72 NewEra – Birds In The Sky 130,303

64 54 Tems – Love Me JeJe 129,998

71 30 Gracie Abrams – Close To You 127,005

81 93 Dua Lipa – Illusion 120,347

90 82 Chappell Roan – HOT TO GO! 115,258

99 136 Lay Bankz – Tell Ur Girlfriend 112,924

100 128 Bakar, Summer Walker – Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker) 112,633

 

109 116 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only 110,497

124 86 Chappell Roan – Red Wine Supernova 105,780

128 56 Charli xcx – Von dutch 104,799

131 42 Charli xcx – Talk talk 103,165

142 134 Lithe – Fall Back 100,793

161 77 Zerb, The Chainsmokers, Ink – Addicted 96,206

167 156 Kairo Keyz – GANG 95,431

173 190 Tinashe – Nasty 94,507 [*PEAK*]

176 157 Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, Tiësto, Dido, W&W, Dimitri Vegas, Like Mike – Thank You (Not So Bad) 94,034

190 168 Pozer – Malicious Intentions 90,989

194 174 PAWSA, Nate Dogg – PICK UP THE PHONE (feat. Nate Dogg) 90,751

Apple Music Chart Update (09/06)

 

01 01 Eminem - Houdini

02 03 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso

03 02 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)

04 04 Hozier - Too Sweet

05 05 Central Cee & Lil Baby - BAND4BAND

06 08 Taylor Swift - Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)

07 07 Myles Smith - Stargazing

08 06 Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen)

09 09 Dasha - Austin (Boots Stop Workin')

10 15 Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please

 

11 10 Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER

12 11 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things

13 14 Teddy Swims - Lose Control

14 13 Noah Kahan - Stick Season

15 12 Billie Eilish - LUNCH

16 17 Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer

17 16 The Blessed Madonna - Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas)

18 20 Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With a Broken Heart

19 18 Mark Ambor - Belong Together

20 22 Charli xcx - 360

 

21 21 Billie Eilish - CHIHIRO

22 24 Teddy Swims - The Door

23 23 Artemas - i like the way you kiss me

24 26 Rudimental & Skepsis - Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan)

25 45 Tems - Love Me JeJe

26 27 Marshmello & Kane Brown - Miles On It

27 25 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us

28 32 Dua Lipa - Illusion

29 30 Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love)

30 28 David Guetta & OneRepublic - I Don't Wanna Wait

 

31 33 Taylor Swift - Down Bad

32 46 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero

33 31 NewEra - Birds In The Sky

34 34 Michael Marcagi - Scared To Start

35 51 Taylor Swift - Lover

36 29 Billie Eilish - WILDFLOWER

37 35 Taylor Swift - Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?

38 39 Becky Hill - Right Here

39 42 The Killers - Mr. Brightside

40 40 Taylor Swift - But Daddy I Love Him

 

42 36 Disclosure - She’s Gone, Dance On

43 37 Benson Boone - Slow It Down

44 54 RAYE - Genesis.

47 41 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe!

50 50 Perrie - Forget About Us

54 19 Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY (VHS)

55 52 Nathan Dawe - We Ain't Here For Long

59 57 Gunna - one of wun

64 65 Alok, Tazi & Samuele Sartini - Seek Love (On The Beach) [feat. Amanda Wilson & York]

69 70 Sonny Fodera - Mind Still (feat. blythe)

70 79 Zach Bryan - Pink Skies

74 66 Fred again.., Anderson .Paak & CHIKA - places to be

76 74 Badger & Natasha Bedingfield - These Words

84 80 Becky Hill - Outside Of Love

86 69 John Summit, Sub Focus & Julia Church - Go Back

94 87 Rag'n'Bone Man - What Do You Believe In?

97 126 Darkoo & Dess Dior - Favourite Girl

 

112 114 Kygo & Zak Abel - For Life (feat. Nile Rodgers)

138 136 Gracie Abrams - Close To You

142 109 Charli XCX - Von dutch

155 112 Charli xcx - Talk talk

163 NE Tems - Get it Right (feat. Asake)

176 148 Myles Smith - Solo

177 172 PAWSA - PICK UP THE PHONE (feat. Nate Dogg)

188 129 K-Trap - Whistle

Sabrina’ success according to buzzjack…

 

A Good Song

Payola

Taylor Swift

Barry Keoghan

 

But is it to do with Ed Sheeran?

If Apple Music don't hurry tf up with supporting Tinashe - Nasty... I'll be having words!

 

We know the industry is misogynistic and ageist in some ways but let's give Sabrina the credit she deserves, because this breakthrough is a *long* time coming and she's grafted for years to make this happen, notably in the past 18 months or so where I've definitely felt her building a fanbase. Nonsense having a brief hit moment followed by Feather taking off notably paved the way for Espresso to have a big launch with strong support, which only flourished as people obviously love the song, and it's easy to hear why whether you're a fan of it or not. Other factors may have helped along the way (the Taylor support slot can't have hurt her, but I don't think it's an enormous factor), but let's give the music and Sabrina's hard work the credit it deserves.

Sabrina’ success according to buzzjack…

 

A Good Song

Payola

Taylor Swift

Barry Keoghan

 

Espresso is just a perfectly crafted pop song with a fun video and her selling it well.

 

All Espresso tells me though is a lot of the releases from the big female artists this forum loves have been sub par lately. Espresso blows anything released by them recently out the water and rightly so.

 

With the way the charts are now with multiple versions of physical albums and a zillion versions of tracks and 3 rip of single physicals, that many artists are just looking to squeeze and manipulate their fan base to get every drop out of them. When just making a great song would be enough and there is such a lack of effort to do that. Hence half the songs in the charts just sampling past hits, low effort where someone else has done the hard work to craft a good song that is just spruced up.

We know the industry is misogynistic and ageist in some ways but let's give Sabrina the credit she deserves, because this breakthrough is a *long* time coming and she's grafted for years to make this happen, notably in the past 18 months or so where I've definitely felt her building a fanbase. Nonsense having a brief hit moment followed by Feather taking off notably paved the way for Espresso to have a big launch with strong support, which only flourished as people obviously love the song, and it's easy to hear why whether you're a fan of it or not. Other factors may have helped along the way (the Taylor support slot can't have hurt her, but I don't think it's an enormous factor), but let's give the music and Sabrina's hard work the credit it deserves.

There are loads of people who have said that they know Sabrina because they have got to hear her music thanks to the Eras Tour, it's definitely a factor. But of course it's a mix of several factors and she is greatly talented, even though I don't like PPP at all, Espresso is great (even if overautoplayed :P ) and I LOVED Thumbs back in the day.

Edited June 10, 20241 yr by Sour Candy

Spotify

 

01. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso (772,834)

02. Eminem - Houdini (731,286)

03. Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please (719,646)

04. Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER (676,011)

10. Tommy Richman - Million Dollar Baby

34. Gracie Abrams - Close to you

37. Zach Bryan - Pink Skies

41. Charli XCX - 360

56. Tems - Love Me JeJe

80. Fred again.. - places to be

85. Chappell Roan - HOT TO GO!

150. Tinashe - Nasty

 

Edited June 10, 20241 yr by ElectroBoy

This is the craziest thing I've read on here for a while :blink:

 

Whats crazy about it? You think teenagers and the main drivers of commercial music care about older couples as much? Its just not how it works. Sabrina is 25 she is relatable to the peak age range of music consumption, she is now in a relationship with somebody very popular among this group too and seems socially in touch big youtubers and tiktokers too. When you combine this with actual good music and not just people listening because of the artist this is why her popularity has skyrocketed. She hasn't even released her album yet and its looking like 2024 is her year and espresso will certainly be the biggest song of 2024 on spotify. I'm sure everyone wants to pretend age doesn't matter but most people have peaks and their peaks are usually between 18-35 in terms of creativity, product and sales etc in the music industry.

Spotify

 

01. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso (772,834)

02. Eminem - Houdini (731,286)

03. Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please (719,646)

04. Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER (676,011)

10. Tommy Richman - Million Dollar Baby

34. Gracie Abrams - Close to you

37. Zach Bryan - Pink Skies

41. Charli XCX - 360

56. Tems - Love Me JeJe

Sabrina coming for the top 2 :o

 

What a great rebound for Gracie too!!

 

Tinashe up to #150 also. This just needs some kind of major playlisting!

 

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Sabrina is #1 in the US with ‘Please…’ (#2 with ‘Espresso’). She’s on a major roll right now! The latter is still number 1 on Global Spotify with ‘Please…’ up to #3!

Sabrina coming to knock herself off #1 officially next week?! Omg

Whats crazy about it? You think teenagers and the main drivers of commercial music care about older couples as much? Its just not how it works. Sabrina is 25 she is relatable to the peak age range of music consumption, she is now in a relationship with somebody very popular among this group too and seems socially in touch big youtubers and tiktokers too. When you combine this with actual good music and not just people listening because of the artist this is why her popularity has skyrocketed. She hasn't even released her album yet and its looking like 2024 is her year and espresso will certainly be the biggest song of 2024 on spotify. I'm sure everyone wants to pretend age doesn't matter but most people have peaks and their peaks are usually between 18-35 in terms of creativity, product and sales etc in the music industry.

I'm not denying the industry is ageist but the way you phrased it earlier saying that Sabrina and Barry were "a good age" to be in a relationship made no sense. Your explanation above makes it a bit clearer what you meant, but even then, I think it's only true to an extent. Taylor Swift is in her mid-30s and I'd say people follow her relationship status more than they do Sabrina's. If Beyonce wasn't happily married and she was dating a string of guys, they'd probably care more about that than Sabrina's too.

There are loads of people who have said that they know Sabrina because they have got to hear her music thanks to the Eras Tour, it's definitely a factor. But of course it's a mix of several factors and she is greatly talented, even though I don't like PPP at all, Espresso is great (even if overautoplayed :P ) and I LOVED Thumbs back in the day.

But to even become the support act for the biggest star in the world must have taken work and effort. The exposure has helped the song sure but that exposure itself was not random, it was as a result of her work, talent and everything that came before it to even be considered a support act for Taylor.

 

I'm so happy for her. The two singles this era are both brilliant. The next question is whether she can also sustain great success with an album like Olivia has managed (not to compare females, just to say that I hope she's just as successful in that field too).

Sabrina coming for the top 2 :o

 

What a great rebound for Gracie too!!

 

Tinashe up to #150 also. This just needs some kind of major playlisting!

 

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Sabrina is #1 in the US with ‘Please…’ (#2 with ‘Espresso’). She’s on a major roll right now! The latter is still number 1 on Global Spotify with ‘Please…’ up to #3!

 

It looks as though she *could* climb to #1 tomorrow. :o Well deserved, brilliant follow-up! :clap:

Is Raye already outside of the top 200 with Genesis? Was really hoping for a lot more

Is it possible to just applaud people for being successful what is the obsession with trying find negative reasons for it