The Reform stuff is worrying, but also a clear indication of where Labour need to play politics right and try to win that vote share. Let's be honest people are voting for Farage, but this will encourage them going forwards and the the temptation to merge with the Conservatives will be there. Still think if enough light is shined on Reform RE NHS etc. they will crumble.

First Reform guest on the BBC Coverage.... time for a brew.

Richard Tice making me want to change to the Sky coverage lol

 

EDIT - *David Bull, they're all the same to me lol

Edited July 4, 20241 yr by hinterland

BBC Graphics aren't up to their usual standard. No ticker across the bottom of the screen telling you declared results by party. This isn't up to the standard I pay my license fee for.

I have a friend in Rhode Island by the name of Aaron. He works at a pharmacy. Today, one of his regular customers told him that his nephew is Rishi Sunak. He checked his surname, and the customer's surname was also Sunak. He was shocked!

BBC Graphics aren't up to their usual standard. No ticker across the bottom of the screen telling you declared results by party. This isn't up to the standard I pay my license fee for.

maybe it'll appear when we have a steady stream of results coming in?

Is whatever you're looking at lumping Plaid Cymru in with 'other'? The numbers shown on the BBC website have 19 'other' which is 18 Northern Ireland seats + the Speaker.

 

The numbers from the two seats declared so far are both broadly in line with the YouGov MRP projections (they very slightly overestimated Labour and underestimated Reform, which is in line with their overall seat projections being a bit out in the same direction for both than the exit poll). Would have been a surprise to see Reform not comfortably beating the Tories in both.

 

(which does make me struggle to see how Reform are supposed to get to 13 seats, would have expected to see them overperforming a lot more than this if that were the case... small sample size though I guess and early days obvz)

 

anyway I need to go to bed xx

OOPS yes thankyou. The poll I saw on Sky said 23 Others which must have included Plaid. 1 Speaker, 3-4 Plaid, 0-1 Corbyn is the normal result.

The exit poll for Scotland... i- (only around 12 seats for Tories so it's not as bad as it looks but SNP, oh lord)

 

This reform guy is so f***ing petulant.

I'm not panicking yet with Reform, these are broadly in line with the YouGov predictions and very Brexit-friendly seats that have been screwed over by the Tories, does suggest they've definitely overperformed but hopefully doesn't equate to too many seats.

SNP are over.

OOPS yes thankyou. The poll I saw on Sky said 23 Others which must have included Plaid. 1 Speaker, 3-4 Plaid, 0-1 Corbyn is the normal result.

this is the exit poll forecast for Islington North:

 

Close contest:

Chance of: Other gain 34%, Conservative gain 33%, Labour hold 33%.

 

definitely going to be one of the seats to watch, rooting for Jeremy ofc

SNP are over.

I disagree. They just need to have a really strong campaign going into 2026. Behaviour of the electorate in Holyrood elections compared to general elections can differ, and while I don't want to sound like a parrot for what they're saying on every channel I do think they'll be suffering because this election has become so focused on Labour delivering the change and steering the ship firmly away from the Tories.

Sunderland Central is a Labour hold by 6k margin!

Nadine Dorries is very edgy tonight on Channel 4.

Reform 2nd for the 3rd time tonight.

SNP are over.

 

Why do you say that lol?

I disagree. They just need to have a really strong campaign going into 2026. Behaviour of the electorate in Holyrood elections compared to general elections can differ, and while I don't want to sound like a parrot for what they're saying on every channel I do think they'll be suffering because this election has become so focused on Labour delivering the change and steering the ship firmly away from the Tories.

 

It wasn't meant seriously. :P Just a reaction to that map posted above. :lol:

nice to see a healthy showing for Green/Lib Dems though is to be expected in inner-city areas. ignoring the high reform figure and instead choosing to laugh at the Tories dreadful showing :lol:

So that's 3 third places out of 3 so far for the Tories.

 

Shame that it's also 3 2nd places out of 3 for Reform.