Right-leaning governments have historically done much better than left-leaning governments over the past hundred years in the UK. Left-wing parties can still have positive moments, much like last night, but they've been very short lived and never given a proper chance to flourish under the systems we have. I would love things to be different and certainly London paints a progressive picture, but there's still a clear split.

 

I do think our current voting system is outdated as hell. I hope it could at least be discussed, but the public widely rejected it on the last vote so I suppose we'll see.

 

This utter bollocks, the Tories have got in many times despite centre-left and left-wing parties having a combined higher vote share.

 

It's nice to see the opposite happen with Reform/Tories letting Labour in for a change.

Happy to see Truss also losing her seat *_*

 

Glad the conservatives did worse than the exit poll with Labour doing slightly better and Lib Dems doing quite a bit better!

 

I'm feeling quite positive with Labour now in power. They should hopefully amend/change some laws for the better such as removal of voter ID and bettering the rent reform bill.

 

I think Labour will make improvements to people's lives over the next 5 years which will be a nice contrast to things getting continuously worse during the 14 years of conseratives. They will likely only be able to change things slowly though due to being quite restricted financially.

 

I can see them winning again in 2029 if they are able to implement a decent amount of their manifesto, although with a reduced majority.

 

Also I just realised the Greens won 4 seats!!!!! Amazing for them *_* Best results in local elections and now best result in a GE. I hope they continue their growth in the coming years. Would be great to have a consistent chunk of Green MPs in parliament.

 

 

Basildon South and East Thurrock

 

Ref: 30.8% (+30.8)

Lab: 30.5% (+7.0)

Con: 25.7% (-39.8)

Ind: 4.9% (-1.9)

Grn: 4.3% (+4.2)

 

120 votes in it. So many close races this year, more than I have ever known

Reform won here, much preferable to Labour or Conservatives at this point, hopefully in 4 years time there will be a better option than what we were offered this time

Right-leaning governments have historically done much better and ruled for far longer than left-leaning governments over the past hundred years in the UK. Left-wing parties can still have positive moments, much like last night, but they've been very short lived and never given a proper chance to flourish under the systems we have. I would love things to be different and certainly London paints a progressive picture, but there's still a clear split.

 

I do agree that our current voting system is outdated as hell. I hope it could at least be discussed, but the public widely rejected a move to PR on the last vote in 2011 so it'll take some time to really bring it forward.

We have had Tory governments for over twice as long as Labour governments since WWII. Most of the years when the national debt has been reduced have been under Labour governments. The Tories supposed reputation for economic competence is wholly undeserved.

 

AV is not PR. We have never had a referendum on PR.

Apologies, I'm misremembering the type of voting, I do hope that this time it can remain in public discourse to become an issue worth debating, just depends if this government would allow it after their victory, but the smaller parties will at least push for it.

 

I don't disagree that left-leaning governments have been responsible for some greater achievements (like the NHS), but it's just a shame that the media always hold them to higher scrutiny so their majority always feels more work and scandals stick, whereas it takes the Tories to hit true rock bottom before it happens. People still go on about tuition fees for Lib Dems, No money left for Labour etc. Last night was generally positive for change and while it's not perfect by any means and they've got a hell of a mess to fix, it's at least finally given me a reason to be hopeful for British politics which I honestly don't think I've felt since I was of voting age.

Labour won Hendon by 15 votes

Labour: 15,855

Conservative: 15,840

 

Can't believe some Londoners are still voting Tories but then again Hendon was a outer London constituency where traditionally Tories tend to do well. At least this time around there's no Tories within inner London constituencies with Cities of London, and Westminster home to parliament, No. 10 and government offices going Labour for the first time.

What’s the betting there will be some unforecast bad economic news in the next couple months, thereby explaining why Sunak didn’t wait until the autumn?

Can't believe some Londoners are still voting Tories but then again Hendon was a outer London constituency where traditionally Tories tend to do well. At least this time around there's no Tories within inner London constituencies with Cities of London, and Westminster home to parliament, No. 10 and government offices going Labour for the first time.

 

Looking at the results, there's quite a few close shaves across the board, the Tories have them too. Probably points to politics being way more volatile in the short-medium term and your vote really mattering even in a FPTP system.

 

Some good appointments in the Cabinet and ministerial positions taking a quick glance. There's no way Labour are anything like the Tories, think anyone who thinks that way needs their head inspected.

Liz Kendall at the DWP and Wes Streeting at health are worryingly right-wing appointments.

 

Indeed Liz ‘4%’ Kendall got a much better job than she deserves. As for Streeting he’s from the south of England so obv going to be from the right. He was so close to losing the seat as well. Let’s be honest if he makes the NHS work like most Labour governments do I will be happy enough!

Apologies, I'm misremembering the type of voting, I do hope that this time it can remain in public discourse to become an issue worth debating, just depends if this government would allow it after their victory, but the smaller parties will at least push for it.

 

I don't disagree that left-leaning governments have been responsible for some greater achievements (like the NHS), but it's just a shame that the media always hold them to higher scrutiny so their majority always feels more work and scandals stick, whereas it takes the Tories to hit true rock bottom before it happens. People still go on about tuition fees for Lib Dems, No money left for Labour etc. Last night was generally positive for change and while it's not perfect by any means and they've got a hell of a mess to fix, it's at least finally given me a reason to be hopeful for British politics which I honestly don't think I've felt since I was of voting age.

 

Agree with most of this but the tories really only got a proper majority in 2019 over the past 14 years and a slight one in 2015. The public never really loved them. Just liked their leaders more than the Labour leaders.

Right-leaning governments have historically done much better and ruled for far longer than left-leaning governments over the past hundred years in the UK. Left-wing parties can still have positive moments, much like last night, but they've been very short lived and never given a proper chance to flourish under the systems we have. I would love things to be different and certainly London paints a progressive picture, but there's still a clear split.

Absolutely true. At 48 i've spent 2/3 of my life under Tory rule and the other 13 years under Blair/Brown so you can see how "left-wing" the country really is. The amount of people in the thread STILL thinking Corbyn would have got in or why Labour are still treading a pretty central line to have power is bewildering when the truth is pretty evident. As Rooney put it the country is pretty centre right in most respects. Labour only ever get in promising not to rock the boat too much......

 

 

Forgot to add Liz Truss losing was a great sight- whoever you support frankly.

Partly agree with that but in reality the public discourse since WW2 has been of the left dominating the social and economic spheres with the right challenging the economic sphere from the mid 70s and only challenging the social sphere since 2010/15!

I'm interested to see what people saying this is a bad result etc. would've expected a 'good result' to look like, Labour getting close to 500 and Lib Dems official opposition? It was never gonna happen, we will always have a core right leaning voterbase. Yes there's still potential issues, but they have been in government for less than a day, let's stop doommongering for one minute x

 

In my opinion some people just want to be grumpy now. I don't get it. Take the win.

From BBC:

 

We're still waiting on one final result, from Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire - but the SNP has admitted defeat and it looks set to go to the Lib Dem’s.

 

:clap:

Inverness, Skye and Ross-shire confirmed as a Lib Dem gain, bringing the total up to 72.

Honestly besides the hilarity of Douglas Ross losing his seat after all the controversy surrounding that, I feel so embarrassed to be Scottish right now. Ultimately we need to wait and see what 2026 brings with the Holyrood election, but if the rejection of the SNP extends beyond just getting the Tories out and people being convinced they had to vote Labour in order to do so then I will be truly flummoxed.

I kinda ended up not sleeping during the results after all (my interview still went well I think despite not having any sleep for it :kink:) so maybe I should have just kept following this thread anyway to join in the jubilation of moments like Rees-Mogg and Truss being thrown out :lol: (a shame that a lot of the other promising Tory scalps didn't end up happening though, especially Jeremy Hunt who felt like a nailed-on goner but ah well).

 

Generally very happy with the outcome even if it is definitely a shallower victory than the raw seat numbers indicate, we'll need to see some concrete results to avoid having an equally huge swing back in the other direction next time. But that can be a worry for another day. x

 

Thrilled especially that my own seat did indeed go Labour in the end, and that Reform didn't actually come anywhere near 13 seats in the end (I did think very early on that that seemed like a big overestimate, the results from Barnsley were the nail in the coffin, clearly the calculations from the exit poll for individual seats were wildly inaccurate, surely there's no excuse for there to have been multiple seats stated as a 99% chance for Reform which ended up not only not being won by Reform but actually not even being particularly close).

The 4-5 seats they got were well above my expectations anyway so I felt disappointed. They also came 2nd in 98 other seats which is a real worry. Feels also like they are actually more of a threat to labour in their old labour working class industrial heartlands than the south where the tories seem to be challenged by the Lib Dems in the main, so worrying going forward especially if we have a liberal centrist Starmer leadership.

 

I too was disappointed we didnt lose Hunt or even Rishi the way things looked at 10pm but tbf Hunt isnt the worst, hes more centrist than reformer. Also annoyed McVey/Patel/Braverman and the likes survived, assume shes in a very safe seat currently rather than her home in the NW.

Another MP for reform as Suella Braveman is set to defect