July 13, 2024Jul 13 BBTory snd sky really attacking Labour over prison numberd snd ignorign WHY there id a pridon crisis, oe how Tories let out 10k early. Labour needs to reform the BBC as a matter of urgency.
July 14, 2024Jul 14 As someone who remembers the last government blaming Labour for everything until 2015 I’d like if this government didn’t do that, would be a breath of fresh air!
July 14, 2024Jul 14 As someone who remembers the last government blaming Labour for everything until 2015 I’d like if this government didn’t do that, would be a breath of fresh air! They didn't just stop at 2015, this was something they kept doing until the bitter end :lol: Â
July 14, 2024Jul 14 They didn't just stop at 2015, this was something they kept doing until the bitter end :lol: Brown sold the gold.
July 14, 2024Jul 14 They didn't just stop at 2015, this was something they kept doing until the bitter end :lol: Indeed, but after 2017/18 they mainly started blaming ‘outside events’ for their own incompetence. Never their fault is it?
July 16, 2024Jul 16 What will be in the King's Speech tomorrow? - Smoking ban on next generation  - Mental Health Act reform  - VAT on private schools  - Renationalising rail - Renters reform - Workers' rights - ban on zero hours, minimum wage same for all adults, and ban on fire and rehire - Crime bill with new curbs on sale of knives/swords and new offences of child exploitation in order to tackle gangs - Full conversion therapy ban - Planning reforms - allowing building on some land currently designated as green belt, which the government says has been wrongly classified - Shoplifting clampdown and close loophole making thefts under £200 less likely to be prosecuted - Independent regulator of football in England  - Truancy law: Councils must track "ghost children" missing from school rolls post-Covid; parents must disclose homeschooling, with AI enhancing coordination among schools, GPs, councils, and Ofsted - Publicly owned GB Energy - Reform Apprenticeships Levy  - House of Lords reform to remove the right of hereditary peers to sit and vote in the House of Lords and force any member who reaches 80 years of age at the end of the Parliament to retire - Devolution: table a "take back control" bill to fire up regions by handing further powers to local leaders - Sex offences: new criminal offence for spiking with rape and sexual offences teams required in every police force - Deliver Martyn's Law named after Manchester Arena bombing victim Martyn Hett - a legal requirement for venues and event organisers to put terrorism preparation plans in place - Hillsborough Law to provide legal aid for victims of disasters or state-related deaths - Small boats legislation to treat smugglers like terrorists  Not included: - Ban on two-child benefit cap  - Votes at 16   Personally think it’s pretty good
July 17, 2024Jul 17 Looking promising! What time is the speech? Martyn’s Law and the full conversion therapy ban in particular. :wub:
July 17, 2024Jul 17 Because? That law does not disadvantage the eich at all. It disproportionately affects middle classes. Many will not be able to afford it- again, won't affect the Eton lot - and will senf their kids to state schools, which already hsve massive clsss sizes. Whatever the government earns from the VAT will be lost via the influx of ex private school students into state. Awful idea.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 Because? I've yet to hear a remotely sensible argument for why this is a bad thing, so looking forward to the response.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 Lots of positive things in the speech. Â One thing I am happy about is the axing of the remaining hereditary peers in the House of Lords. Â I do wish they would go further in some areas, such as renationalising water companies outright - although that would likely be fairly costly Edited July 17, 2024Jul 17 by Envoirment
July 17, 2024Jul 17 That law does not disadvantage the eich at all. It disproportionately affects middle classes. Many will not be able to afford it- again, won't affect the Eton lot - and will senf their kids to state schools, which already hsve massive clsss sizes. Whatever the government earns from the VAT will be lost via the influx of ex private school students into state. Awful idea. If you can afford to spend that much money on sending your children to school, then you’re not strapped for cash even if you’re not paying VAT. Perhaps send people could tighten their belts elsewhere-perhaps take fewer holidays, stop having expensive coffees or subscribing to Netflix-aren’t those the things poorer people were told to do so they could heat their homes? The money saved from the VAT being covered could actually be put into our underfunded state schools, which will receive more money anyway if their roll does get higher. I went to and now work in a state school and it absolutely sickens me that we still have a segregated school system in that you can supposedly buy a better education. How on Earth is a system like that fair? Honestly you bleat on constantly about being the big liberal personality of the site and yet you defend one of the most unfair things we have going on in this country. Tells me you’re all talk. Education should be for everyone. Everyone should be able to access high class education, not just those who pay for it. I know it’s always going to be there, but I still don’t see why the people who send their kids to state schools need to pick up private school bills through their taxes.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 That law does not disadvantage the eich at all. It disproportionately affects middle classes. Many will not be able to afford it- again, won't affect the Eton lot - and will senf their kids to state schools, which already hsve massive clsss sizes. Whatever the government earns from the VAT will be lost via the influx of ex private school students into state. Awful idea. Estimates of the number of children who will leave private schools start at 40,000. If the figure is that low, that is an average of two children per state school. Even the highest estimates work out at fewer than ten children per state school. Schools will cope. Adyklts have to pay VAST on clothing (unless they are small enough to be able to wear children’s clothes. Why should clothes be taxed more heavily tan private education? It makes no sense.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 If you can afford to spend that much money on sending your children to school, then you’re not strapped for cash even if you’re not paying VAT. Perhaps send people could tighten their belts elsewhere-perhaps take fewer holidays, stop having expensive coffees or subscribing to Netflix-aren’t those the things poorer people were told to do so they could heat their homes? The money saved from the VAT being covered could actually be put into our underfunded state schools, which will receive more money anyway if their roll does get higher. I went to and now work in a state school and it absolutely sickens me that we still have a segregated school system in that you can supposedly buy a better education. How on Earth is a system like that fair? Honestly you bleat on constantly about being the big liberal personality of the site and yet you defend one of the most unfair things we have going on in this country. Tells me you’re all talk. Education should be for everyone. Everyone should be able to access high class education, not just those who pay for it. I know it’s always going to be there, but I still don’t see why the people who send their kids to state schools need to pick up private school bills through their taxes. That's not true at all. Miffle and poorer people who put all their available money into schooling for rheir kids will not be able to affoed the change, and foe the rich it will be chump change. It makes no sense to send an extra 40k+ kids to state schools when it can be avodied! Ir generates no extra weslth foe rhe government either and just sffectd psrentd who sre struggling to meet the wchool costs of their kids. Ir's the worst Labour policy in a looong time.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 If you can afford to spend that much money on sending your children to school, then you’re not strapped for cash even if you’re not paying VAT. Perhaps send people could tighten their belts elsewhere-perhaps take fewer holidays, stop having expensive coffees or subscribing to Netflix-aren’t those the things poorer people were told to do so they could heat their homes? The money saved from the VAT being covered could actually be put into our underfunded state schools, which will receive more money anyway if their roll does get higher. I went to and now work in a state school and it absolutely sickens me that we still have a segregated school system in that you can supposedly buy a better education. How on Earth is a system like that fair? Honestly you bleat on constantly about being the big liberal personality of the site and yet you defend one of the most unfair things we have going on in this country. Tells me you’re all talk. Education should be for everyone. Everyone should be able to access high class education, not just those who pay for it. I know it’s always going to be there, but I still don’t see why the people who send their kids to state schools need to pick up private school bills through their taxes. Absolutely right. I also work in a state school and it’s heartbreaking to see the things we can’t do because we don’t have the money. The post-GCSE period is when we get to support students who have been unsupported for most of the year because the money isn’t there. Some of those students make huge progress, but we know that they will lose that support again in September. Some of those students were hugely grateful for the support they got at the end of Yr7 last year. Working with them again this year, at the end of Yr8, shows how much worse their attitude to learning has become after a lack of support. If a students is assesses as needing one-to-one support, the school only gets about one-third of the cost of providing that support. The rest of the money has to come from elsewhere.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 And yet the vat system will NOT bring in any extra money!! It won't. It will all go on the extra influx of new students. Plus, it does NOTHING to ACTUALLY addresd inequality, as, for the elite, it will be chump change. The people this affects are working people, who aren't the mega rich.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 And yet the vat system will NOT bring in any extra money!! It won't. It will all go on the extra influx of new students. Plus, it does NOTHING to ACTUALLY addresd inequality, as, for the elite, it will be chump change. The people this affects are working people, who aren't the mega rich. Wrong. The additional revenue will be more than the cost of some children moving into state schools. Even if the extra revenue os marginal, surely the principle is right. As I said above, why ahold private school fees be free of tax when all adults have to pay VAT on their clothes?
July 17, 2024Jul 17 The money can also be put into the woefully underfunded Further Education sector, the amount of students with Education Health Care Plans coming out of school rises every year with increasingly complex needs, students whose needs we are just not funded enough to meet. This can help get those that don't have the advantage of wealthy backgrounds get a chance in life. It doesn't matter how you look at it, free schools and colleges are in a dark place. However marginal difference it makes, it's a step in the right direction promoting education for all. Of all the things to pick on Labour about...this?
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