8 hours ago, MustBeTheMusic said:

Oh I've not come across a "since 1994" rule - is that something that renders all of her UK sales pre-1994 negligible for certification?

Yes, so for example for 'The Loco-motion to be certified Silver, it has to achieve 200k sales since 1994 (and I think this could happen in the near future). Something like 'I Should Be So Lucky' already achieved a Gold certification in the 80s, so it will need to achieve 600k sales since 1994 in order to be certified Platinum.

On 08/01/2025 at 19:00, Liam.k. said:

Been looking at the previous known total sales for Kylie's singles and I think we could get a few new certifications this year:

 

Spinning Around: Platinum ✅

Kids: Gold ✅

Slow: Silver ✅

All the Lovers: Platinum

Padam Padam: Platinum ✅

Tension: Silver

 

Potentially add 'Where the Wild Roses Grow', '2 Hearts' and 'Say Something' for Silver as well. 'The Locomotion' too for sales of 200k in the download/streaming era as it wasn't originally certified back in the 80s.

Made this prediction list for new certifications at the start of the year and four have them have been correct.

'All the Lovers' was averaging 349 chart sales between February 2017 and July 2019 but is likely doing better now. If its average since July 2019 was 400 chart sales, it would be on 566k now; if its average was 500 chart sales, it would be on 597k. I imagine it lies somewhere in the middle, so its total would stand at 581k today.

9 hours ago, Liam.k. said:

Yes, so for example for 'The Loco-motion to be certified Silver, it has to achieve 200k sales since 1994 (and I think this could happen in the near future). Something like 'I Should Be So Lucky' already achieved a Gold certification in the 80s, so it will need to achieve 600k sales since 1994 in order to be certified Platinum.

Thanks for the info and explanation. I had no idea that pre-1994 releases had been screwed over by the BPI. What a shame that the eligible certifications for release like The Loco-Motion and Wouldn’t Change A Thing weren't claimed by PWL prior to the change in the rules.

1 hour ago, MustBeTheMusic said:

Thanks for the info and explanation. I had no idea that pre-1994 releases had been screwed over by the BPI. What a shame that the eligible certifications for release like The Loco-Motion and Wouldn’t Change A Thing weren't claimed by PWL prior to the change in the rules.

Yeah I'm not sure why 'The Loco-motion' and 'Wouldn't Change a Thing' were overlooked when even 'Never Too Late' was certified Silver despite not actually selling enough (I know it was based on shipments, but still it seems odd it received a certification over the other two).

18 hours ago, Liam.k. said:

Made this prediction list for new certifications at the start of the year and four have them have been correct.

'All the Lovers' was averaging 349 chart sales between February 2017 and July 2019 but is likely doing better now. If its average since July 2019 was 400 chart sales, it would be on 566k now; if its average was 500 chart sales, it would be on 597k. I imagine it lies somewhere in the middle, so its total would stand at 581k today.

Would love it go platinum asap as its just a huge fave from Kylie for me and its the least it deserves,

At least with streaming, certs are likely for so many more tracks, even the pre 1994 ones, despite the daft rules.

Streaming has made up for the collapse of the sales market, especially 2000-2004 when CD single sales evaporated fast and downloads weren’t included fully. There were all sorts of rules and regs in force then.

On 28/07/2025 at 01:33, Liam.k. said:

'All the Lovers' was averaging 349 chart sales between February 2017 and July 2019 but is likely doing better now. If its average since July 2019 was 400 chart sales, it would be on 566k now; if its average was 500 chart sales, it would be on 597k. I imagine it lies somewhere in the middle, so its total would stand at 581k today.

All the lovers regularly gets played after I choose to play anything pop on Apple Music along with Material Girl & New Rules.

The Loco-motion is Silver!

Sold 376k in the 80s which brings its total to 576k to date!

'Spinning Around jumps 76-27 on TV airplay! I believe the chart began in 2003 so this marks its

first time in the Top 40.

With so little music channels now, the TV airplay chart is full of old songs. I'm guessing one of the channels had a "best of year 2000" style programme as other songs from that year have also experienced big boosts ('Pure Shores', 'Groovejet', 'Lady (Hear Me Tonight)').

1 hour ago, Liam.k. said:

The Loco-motion is Silver!

Sold 376k in the 80s which brings its total to 576k to date!

Hopefully platinum sooner rather than later.

51 minutes ago, Padamic_Tension said:

Hopefully platinum sooner rather than later.

Assume you mean 600k overall total rather a Platinum certification?

5 hours ago, Liam.k. said:

Assume you mean 600k overall total rather a Platinum certification?

Yes 600k overall.

I guess we won't know until it is actually certified platinum though surely?

Will Better the Devil You Know be the next pre 94 song to get a silver certification? I think it was on 87,000 sales in 2019 and was averaging 15,000 sales a year, which would put it on 177,000 sales by now, the tour might have increased the average this year, so could be on 180,000 by now.

All just a guessing game though.

9 hours ago, BREAKTHETENSION said:

Will Better the Devil You Know be the next pre 94 song to get a silver certification? I think it was on 87,000 sales in 2019 and was averaging 15,000 sales a year, which would put it on 177,000 sales by now, the tour might have increased the average this year, so could be on 180,000 by now.

All just a guessing game though.

It already has a Silver certification from 1990 so will have to wait until it sells 400k post 1994 when it will be certified Gold.

14 hours ago, Liam.k. said:

It already has a Silver certification from 1990 so will have to wait until it sells 400k post 1994 when it will be certified Gold.

Ah, you’re right! Didn’t think about that 😂

This whole only getting certs after a certain date is ridiculous tbh, like why?

1 hour ago, Spiceboy said:

This whole only getting certs after a certain date is ridiculous tbh, like why?

Something to do with some changeover in the company that reports sales at that point.

On 15/08/2025 at 21:15, Liam.k. said:

The Loco-motion is Silver!

Sold 376k in the 80s which brings its total to 576k to date!

Did it not sell anything at all in the period between 1989 and 1994? I have no idea how catalogue sales worked in the early 90s lol.

Also, before this update the last update we had was in August 2019, when The Loco-Motion was at 455,000 units. That means it moved around 80,000 units between 1994 and 2019, and a further 120,000 units in the past 6 years. At this rate (around 20,000 units a year), it'll go gold in another 10 years.

However if we rely on the Spotify figures, The Loco-Motion had around 80,000 non-physical units when it was at 14 million streams in August 2019. It is now at 73 million streams, so that implies that for every 10 million streams, the song gained 20,000 units. Therefore, the song will have to gain another 100 million streams to go gold. At its current daily streaming rate of around 30,000 to 35,000 spins per day, this will happen in roughly 8 years.

If the rate continues to go up, we can expect it to hit gold in 5-6 years.

Edited August 28Aug 28 by Delicate

3 minutes ago, Delicate said:

Did it not sell anything at all in the period between 1989 and 1994? I have no idea how catalogue sales worked in the early 90s lol.

I think back then once shops stopped selling them, you could only buy it if you order a copy especially at the counter - but eventually they became out of print.