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On 05/08/2026 at 23:20, JosephStyles said:

All these caveats and asterisks are just that, though. The record itself can't be disputed because that is the official chart. There's nothing to agree or disagree with because it's not an opinion, it's a statistic! Like I said, context tells a greater story, but there's absolutely no contesting that Sam and Olivia have the actual record, because the official chart involves the ACR rules currently. Nobody's suggesting things wouldn't be different if ACR weren't a thing, but it is and that's the official version of the chart that counts for the record books.

and also, aren't there always caveats in the past? like, acts used to hype music into the charts, old stats were far less reliable on their own merits (ringing round a few shops here and there), it's not like there was some mythical time when the rules were perfect and we knew exactly who bought what and when. it may be different to what it was now but it is at least accurate for what it is, it's not like it was always very good in the past

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