October 2Oct 2 Just now, DanChartFan said:Back in the day we were still playing our old tapes and CDs each week, as well as buying the new ones in the chart, it's just that our continued consumption of those old tapes and CDs was not counted for the chart since it only measured what was actually being bought in the shops, not what was being played. Including streaming meant that suddenly the chart was measuring continued consumpiton of older tracks as well as initial uptake of the newest stuff. Nowadays we seem to be at a point where the newest stuff can no longer break through due to the heavy presence on the charts of the older stuff, and whether that is unfair or not is debatable. I actually checked how many new songs (those that first charted in the actual year in question) made the Top 40 in each quarter of this year and the last quarter of last year. Q4 2025 and Q1 and Q2 2026 averaged about 40 new top 40 hits, but this current quarter (the chart we're listening to is the last sales week of Q3) had only 26 new Top 40 hits up to last week, and with today's new chart we will get to about 30 or so.Here's a playlist of tracks that were actually new Top 40 hits this quarter: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7uizvL4D2wu271lb2Y24qgThank you. This is exactly the point I've been trying to make, the chart by design is flawed when old songs getting loads of streams are prioritised over new songs and prevents new songs from getting the exposure / recognition pop artists need to survive. A 3 year rule would end this madness overnight.
October 2Oct 2 1 minute ago, pop enthusiast said:Thank you. This is exactly the point I've been trying to make, the chart by design is flawed when old songs getting loads of streams are prioritised over new songs and prevents new songs from getting the exposure / recognition pop artists need to survive. A 3 year rule would end this madness overnight.You are too generous. Man I Need is about to go recurrent on Billboard because its droping out the top 10 after 52 weeks.
October 2Oct 2 Author 29 | 31 | 64th weekOasisDon't Look Back In Anger4th single from (What's The Story) Morning Glory?Released: 19th February 1996Label: Big Brother RecordingsChart StatisticsNE (02/03/1996) | 1-2-3-3-8-11-11-16-26-36-36-42-46-58-65-69-xRE (06/07/1996) | 86-95-94-99-99-xRE (17/08/1996) | 81-77-86-88-94-82-89-xRE (16/11/1996) | 53-63-75-72-70-76-67-53-65-xRE (19/07/1997) | 88-97-xRE (08/06/2017) | 66-25-42-56-67-87-99-xRE (05/09/2024) | 16-9-17-35-39-xRE (17/07/2025) | 18-17-22-22-23-21-23-32-33-95-xRE (24/09/2026) | 30-31-29Sales: 4,200,000+Certification: 7x PlatinumStatus: Standard Chart Ratio01 Sales11 Audio Streaming11 Video StreamingVideoBiographySome groups spend years chasing stardom, and others seem to just instantly will it into existence. The latter was certainly the case with Manchester’s Oasis, who named the first song on their first album “Rock ’n’ Roll Star” as if their fate were preordained. Arriving in the midst of the peak alt-rock era, Oasis’ 1994 debut, Definitely Maybe, was a bird-flipping retort to the navel-gazing angst of grunge, rolling the melodicism of The Beatles, the swagger of T. Rex, the sneer of the Sex Pistols, and the strobe-lit grooves of The Stone Roses into alternately sleazy (“Cigarettes & Alcohol”) and celebratory (“Live Forever”) pint-raising anthems. And it wasn’t just the group’s sound that harkened back to the glory days of British rock—in the simmering tension between the guitarist who wrote all the tunes (Noel Gallagher) and the singer who brought them to life (his braggadocious brother Liam), Oasis came prepackaged with a sibling-rivalry soap opera to rival that of The Kinks. Definitely Maybe’s No. 1 debut on the UK charts turned Oasis into the ubiquitous bad boys of Britpop, an image they gleefully indulged through their tabloid-baiting pissing matches with London’s Blur, the art-school antithesis of the Gallaghers’ working-class laddism. But with 1995’s follow-up, (What’s the Story) Morning Glory?, Oasis shed the Union Jack trappings to become the only English band of the era to match their domestic success in the US, thanks to karaoke-ready sing-alongs like “Wonderwall” and “Don’t Look Back in Anger.” With more than 20 million copies sold worldwide, Morning Glory effectively turned Oasis into an institution, one that would continue to sell out arenas for years to come (even after 1997’s infamously over-the-top Be Here Now signaled the end of Britpop’s pop-cultural dominance). The Gallaghers’ ever-fraught relationship would sink Oasis in 2009, but the enduring, cross-generational appeal of their most popular songs—with “Wonderwall” ranking among the most-streamed tracks of the ’90s—ensures a legacy that will live forever. In 2024, the Gallaghers announced a 2025 worldwide reunion tour, claiming reconciliation on social media: “The guns have fallen silent. The stars have aligned. The great wait is over.” - Apple MusicTop 100 Chart History1994 31 Supersonic -1- MILLIONAIRE1994 11 Shakermaker -2-1994 08 Live Forever -3- MILLIONAIRE1994 07 Cigarettes & Alcohol -4- MILLIONAIRE1994 03 Whatever -NAS- MILLIONAIRE1995 01 Some Might Say -1- MILLIONAIRE1995 02 Roll With It -2- MILLIONAIRE1995 02 Wonderwall -3- MILLION SELLER1996 01 Don't Look Back In Anger -4- MILLION SELLER1997 01 D'You Know What I Mean? -1- MILLIONAIRE1997 02 Stand By Me -2- MILLIONAIRE1998 01 All Around The World -3-2000 01 Go Let It Out -1-2000 04 Who Feels Love? -2-2000 04 Sunday Morning Call -3-2002 01 The Hindu Times -1-2002 02 Stop Crying Your Heart Out -2- MILLIONAIRE2002 02 Little By Little / She Is Love -3-2003 03 Songbird -4-2005 01 Lyla -1-2005 01 The Importance Of Being Idle -2-2005 02 Let There Be Love -3-2007 10 Lord Don't Slow Me Down -NAS-2008 03 The Shock Of The Lightning -1-2008 12 I'm Outta Time -2-2009 10 Falling Down -3-2015 56 Half The World Away -B-SIDE- MILLIONAIRE2020 80 Don't Stop... -NAS-2025 17 Acquiesce -B-SIDE-2025 31 Slide Away -PS-8 x #1 | 19 x Top 5 | 23 x Top 10 | 26 x Top 20 | 28 x Top 40 | 30 x Top 100Social Media Oasis
October 2Oct 2 Just now, pop enthusiast said:Thank you. This is exactly the point I've been trying to make, the chart by design is flawed when old songs getting loads of streams are prioritised over new songs and prevents new songs from getting the exposure / recognition pop artists need to survive. A 3 year rule would end this madness overnight.Well then they should make a fake chart, made up of only new releases, and a real chart with the new stuff combined with what people are actually listening to.I think some of you just need to accept that it’s not 2004 anymore (which is ironic coming from me).
October 2Oct 2 Just now, No Sleeep said:Well then they should make a fake chart, made up of only new releases, and a real chart with the new stuff combined with what people are actually listening to.there's already a fake chart - it's called the Big Top 40 x Edited October 2Oct 2 by maggotsforbrains
October 2Oct 2 2 minutes ago, No Sleeep said:Well then they should make a fake chart, made up of only new releases, and a real chart with the new stuff combined with what people are actually listening to.I think some of you just need to accept that it’s not 2004 anymore (which is ironic coming from me).The current chart is the fake chart, it's too generous to old songs and it's killing new music.
October 2Oct 2 23 minutes ago, DanielCarey said:It is AI generated. Melody is an AI generated "singer".But I've read Melody is a brazilian singer.
October 2Oct 2 If you have Disney plus, you will be able to watch the excellent recent Oasis movie from next Friday.
October 2Oct 2 1 minute ago, pop enthusiast said:Thank you. This is exactly the point I've been trying to make, the chart by design is flawed when old songs getting loads of streams are prioritised over new songs and prevents new songs from getting the exposure / recognition pop artists need to survive. A 3 year rule would end this madness overnight.I was out last weekend and something dawned on me. that might also be part of the problem If places like my local spoons are playing the same old hits every night on loop, and are likely using a Sporify account or youtube account or some such to play them, then could this be an underlying cause for certain old tracks never dissappearing from the charts? Could the chart be accidentally measuring what spoons and other pubs/clubs are playing as well as the personal consumption of individuals?
October 2Oct 2 30 minutes ago, DanielCarey said:Mi Chico in the top 40 I've got a secret I cannot keep it.....Mi Chico Latinoooo
October 2Oct 2 Just now, TheSnake said:I've got a secret I cannot keep it.....Mi Chico LatinooooDonde esta?
October 2Oct 2 1 minute ago, pop enthusiast said:The current chart is the fake chart, it's too generous to old songs and it's killing new music.Literally the opposite is true, old songs would be much higher in a fair chart. You are clearly set in your ways though so let’s leave it there
October 2Oct 2 Just now, detonate said:I'm loving this new show on Radio 1 "The official Top 40 from past decades" This is to actually drum up a lot of press to get listeners to tune into the spinoff station Radio 1 Anthems!
October 2Oct 2 Author 28 | 28 | 6th weekSIENNA SPIROPureAlbum track from VisitorReleased: 3rd July 2026Label: Capitol RecordsChart StatisticsNE (03/09/2026) | 40-36-36-39-28-28Sales: 70,000+Certification: -Status: Standard Chart Ratio97 Sales78 Audio Streamingxx Video StreamingVideoBiographySienna Spiro delivers dramatic ballads with poise and a rasp that belie her years. Like many aspiring singers, the London native put in work interpreting songs on social media, and unlike most, her work quickly paid off in a sudden burst of success with original material, including the minor 2024 U.K. hit "Maybe" and the debut EP Sink Now, Swim Later. Visitor, her first album, followed in 2026 with the sweeping Top Ten single "Die on This Hill" among its handful of charting previews. - Apple MusicTop 100 Chart History2024 45 MAYBE. -1-2025 09 Die On This Hill -2-2025 26 You Stole The Show -1-2026 11 The Visitor -3-2026 13 Material Lover -OST-2026 01 Great Expectation -4-2026 28 Pure -AT-1 x #1 | 1 x Top 5 | 2 x Top 10 | 4 x Top 20 | 6 x Top 40 | 7 x Top 100Social Media SIENNA SPIRO
October 2Oct 2 Just now, Jason said:But I've read Melody is a brazilian singer.she is - it's just that her vocals aren't present on the song!like compare the vocals on there to her vocals on her feature on JETSKI (her previous biggest success) - they don't even sound remotely alike!
October 2Oct 2 1 minute ago, No Sleeep said:Literally the opposite is true, old songs would be much higher in a fair chart. You are clearly set in your ways though so let’s leave it thereDepends on your definition of "fair". The highest streamed songs getting the highest positions isn't necessarily fair for reasons me and Dan have outlined in this thread. The fair solution is to ban old music from the chart.
October 2Oct 2 Pure actually does contain in its chorus the Gen Alpha chord progression. There's an actually good breakdown on the progression and its use in music - it's also been used in APT, Bad Romance, One of Your Girls etc
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