And, of course, Chasing Cars :lol:

 

Which is *still* charting, of course... :rolleyes:

Royal British Legion - 2 Minute Silence: 20-97-OUT

 

Cliff Richard - Thank You For A Lifetime: 3-12-42-96-OUT

 

Cliff Richard - 21st Century Christmas/Move It: 2-7-43-OUT

 

 

Where did "4'33" drop to this week?

Where did "4'33" drop to this week?

 

Outside the Top 100 :lol:

McFly - One For The Radio: 2-21-46-63-99-OUT

Bandaged - Little Drummer Boy / Peace On Earth: 3-13-73-OUT

Geraldine - Once Upon A Christmas Song: 5-8-55-OUT

Leeds United Team & Supporters - Leeds Leeds Leeds (Marching On Together): 10-OUT

Alexander Rybak - Fairytale: 10-38-76-OUT

Oasis - I'm Outta Time: 12-46-83-OUT

John Barrowman - I Made It Through The Rain: 14-92-OUT

Tommy Reilly - Gimme A Call: 14-60-OUT

Geraldine - Once Upon A Christmas Song: 5-8-55-OUT

Leeds United Team & Supporters - Leeds Leeds Leeds (Marching On Together): 10-OUT

 

I forgot about these two!

 

I wouldn't count the other ones, especially not Fairytale as #38 is not a 'very high position' to drop out of the top 40 from...

Just discovered that "4"33" fell out the top 200 completly thanks to my latest issue of Chartsplus with the amended positions.

 

Another one to add is "X-M@S" by Corey Taylor: 37-105.

 

 

Just discovered that "4"33" fell out the top 200 completly thanks to my latest issue of Chartsplus with the amended positions.

 

Another one to add is "X-M@S" by Corey Taylor: 37-105.

 

37 is not a 'high position to fall out from', neither is 21. Read the title properly.

I was gonna say the Emma's Imagination one :lol:

1 year later...

 

#3 - Lou Monte - Dominick The Donkey // to #41

#4 - Alex Day - Forever Yours // to ???

 

#8 - Leona Lewis - Hurt // to #68

 

LOLz

A post in the UKMix Forum says Alex Day has dropped out of the Top 100!

Edited January 1, 201213 yr by diditagain

A post in the UKMix Forum says Alex Day has dropped out of the Top 100!

That is correct.

That Alex Day song shouldn't have even been allowed to chart full stop IMO. Remember The Modern - Industry was made disqualified from the chart in 2006 because of a few overzealous fans apparently buying too many copies online? Don't understand how this far more blatant, obvious attempt of 'manipulation' (EVERYONE could see it) was considered perfectly above board. I mean, god, how many versions did he even have on iTunes? :wacko: The OCC really need to make some kind of rule about how many download versions are allowed to count. They have one for physical copies and digital bundles so why not individual downloads?

The chart rules of 2006 made a mockery of the UK charts. January 2007 was the turning point - those rules should've just been implemented in Spring 2006 instead. Gnarls Barkley might've had 10 weeks at no. 1, then Nelly Furtado 'Maneater' without that ghastly Sandi Thom "song" hogging the top spot for one week. ** shudders **

People always forget that Sandi's sales INCREASED to more than the ~37k Ganarls Barkley got to #1 with the week before. ~39k for Sandi iirc, so I doubt Crazy would've had another week at #1 anyway. :P

 

But pretty much agreeing with opinions on that rule tbh. Basically, a song could only chart the 2 weeks before and after a physical copy being 'available'. Though as far as I remember, retailers could sell leftover stock after, however this didn't count towards the chart either? It's like the French only including physical sales untill like last year... :ph34r:

Edited January 1, 201213 yr by Juranamo

That Alex Day song shouldn't have even been allowed to chart full stop IMO. Remember The Modern - Industry was made disqualified from the chart in 2006 because of a few overzealous fans apparently buying too many copies online? Don't understand how this far more blatant, obvious attempt of 'manipulation' (EVERYONE could see it) was considered perfectly above board. I mean, god, how many versions did he even have on iTunes? :wacko: The OCC really need to make some kind of rule about how many download versions are allowed to count. They have one for physical copies and digital bundles so why not individual downloads?

 

It's just a clever way of getting more sales out of a devoted fanbase - if people are willing to spend that much money/buy that many versions then they should all count towards the chart IMO. It's not manipulation, it's just proof of the artist's popularity.

didn't drop out of top 40 2nd week but it had a massive fall from #3! (the single was deleted after the first day)

 

Doves - There goes the fear 3-34-70

It's just a clever way of getting more sales out of a devoted fanbase - if people are willing to spend that much money/buy that many versions then they should all count towards the chart IMO. It's not manipulation, it's just proof of the artist's popularity.

I just worry that it's going to set a dangerous precedent more than anything. How long before other so called YouTube stars look at Alex Day's success, want a piece of it themselves, realise that putting umpteen versions of your song on iTunes is an easy way to go about this and makes the chart a complete and utter mess. Ultimately the line has to be drawn somewhere and I don't see why the OCC don't simply have a rule of only the most downloaded x amount of versions of a song can count in a single week. It wouldn't even make a jot of difference in 99.9999999% (you get the idea) of cases. I don't know how many versions Alex Day had but I do think it was TOO many and inflated his chart position by at least several places.

 

And I put manipulating in inverted commas because it was just an easy word to describe it and I couldn't be arsed to think of another; it's not necessarily manipulation but it IS influencing the charts, which IS actually against chart rules - though, of course, there's no set definition of this rule and it's largely looked at on a case-by-case basis. Perhaps the OCC did look at Alex Day's sales though and verified them as within order, in which case it's whatever and I'll have to accept even if I think it was ridiculous, but I still hope to God the above scenario doesn't manifest itself - something like this happening more than once would be enough to drive me away from the charts for good if they start becoming more and more about how loony your online fanbase is.

cancel that.

Surprised no-one has mentioned the Band Aid II slump of 4-32 in Jan 1990 which was, at the time, the first time a record had fallen from the top 5 out of the top 30. Ok it's not outside the top 40 but it was a shock at the time!

Edited January 1, 201213 yr by Gezza76

I just worry that it's going to set a dangerous precedent more than anything. How long before other so called YouTube stars look at Alex Day's success, want a piece of it themselves, realise that putting umpteen versions of your song on iTunes is an easy way to go about this and makes the chart a complete and utter mess. Ultimately the line has to be drawn somewhere and I don't see why the OCC don't simply have a rule of only the most downloaded x amount of versions of a song can count in a single week. It wouldn't even make a jot of difference in 99.9999999% (you get the idea) of cases. I don't know how many versions Alex Day had but I do think it was TOO many and inflated his chart position by at least several places.

 

And I put manipulating in inverted commas because it was just an easy word to describe it and I couldn't be arsed to think of another; it's not necessarily manipulation but it IS influencing the charts, which IS actually against chart rules - though, of course, there's no set definition of this rule and it's largely looked at on a case-by-case basis. Perhaps the OCC did look at Alex Day's sales though and verified them as within order, in which case it's whatever and I'll have to accept even if I think it was ridiculous, but I still hope to God the above scenario doesn't manifest itself - something like this happening more than once would be enough to drive me away from the charts for good if they start becoming more and more about how loony your online fanbase is.

 

Let's not forget Radiohead back in 2008; they managed to get Nude to no.21 by allowing people to download individual stems of the track (eg. just the vocals, guitar, drums seperately), in each case counting as one download. Although in that case it was a track I liked getting into the chart, it seemed incredibly manipulative. I'm actually surprised that no other artist has tried doing that since then; it would be a surefire way to guarantee a better chart position.