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But if you look at it like this, Calvin Harris is credited as having a number of #1 singles, I don't know how many, but there are songwriters who have written a lot more #1 singles, and yet they wouldn't be credited as having #1 singles as they are not the performer. That's the point I was making.

 

The bolded bit is the difference between them and the likes of Calvin Harris, David Guetta and Mark Ronson. Those three ARE the performers. They release their own singles to promote their own albums and they perform those songs live as part of their own promotion. The guest vocalists record the vocals for the production, whereas people like Max Martin for example produce the music for the vocals of other artists. There is more to being a musician than being a singer and producers like Calvin, David and Mark (specifically the latter two who don't sing at all) have simply made a name for themselves in a different way, they're still just as much the lead performers as any singer is on their albums' material.

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Well I can't recall any instances where someone's been credited just for songwriting so I'd say that's a different case really to producing it. Equally, producing is different to singing and I do get your point really, I just wouldn't say it's not "right" (all my opinion of course!)

Sorry I didn't mean songwriting, I meant there are producers who have produced a lot more songs and not been credited as having a #1 single.

Sorry I didn't mean songwriting, I meant there are producers who have produced a lot more songs and not been credited as having a #1 single.

 

Oh right :kink: I guess it's down to their prerogative really. And what Bray said in a much better way than me :lol:

At the end of the day what you are saying is that these producers have no right to release music of their own volition. You are saying the likes of Calvin Harris should create songs and then beg for their vocalist to release them. That is ludicrous. The difference between most producers and people like Avicii is most producers are *asked* to make a song for someone else to release and only do so when asked. People like Dr. Luke have no desire to create and release music unless they are asked to do so by another performer. People like Calvin and Guetta *do* have a desire to create their own music and release it, so what other option do they have besides releasing an album under their own name?

 

Of course the majority of songwriters and producers don't get credited on hits they helped produce, but that is entirely because the drive to release those songs did not come from them.

The bolded bit is the difference between them and the likes of Calvin Harris, David Guetta and Mark Ronson. Those three ARE the performers. They release their own singles to promote their own albums and they perform those songs live as part of their own promotion. The guest vocalists record the vocals for the production, whereas people like Max Martin for example produce the music for the vocals of other artists. There is more to being a musician than being a singer and producers like Calvin, David and Mark (specifically the latter two who don't sing at all) have simply made a name for themselves in a different way, they're still just as much the lead performers as any singer is on their albums' material.

That's a very good argument. However, it is also true that there have been other producers (Giorgio Moroder, Phil Spector) whose style has been just as distinctive as Calvin Harris and David Guetta. It's just that Spector and Moroder worked at a time when DJ / producers did not perform live in the way that Harris and Guetta do. Of course, Moroder is planning a new album so maybe he will soon add to his modest list of credited hits.

But clearly Giorgio Moroder did have credited hits, and in the same era so did Cerrone so there's nothing entirely new under the sun. Indeed in the early days of recording jazz bands would almost always be named after a conductor or an instrumentalist, rather than the singer.
But clearly Giorgio Moroder did have credited hits, and in the same era so did Cerrone so there's nothing entirely new under the sun. Indeed in the early days of recording jazz bands would almost always be named after a conductor or an instrumentalist, rather than the singer.

He did indeed but he wasn't credited on a string of Donna Summer's hits even though his production played a very significant part. I Feel Love owes just as much to Moroder's production as it does to Summer's vocals.

 

Dorothy do you know how to do the combine thing without the manual? Or is it on another page?

 

 

Desktop version seems to combine the songs while the web version is more like itunes with multiple versions showing up in the charts

I hope Up manages a decent top 40 performance. So much better than Tied Up :drama:

 

And it has Demi in :P

 

 

The video is coming on Thursday I think and then there's the X-Factor performance on Sunday so hopefully that will boost it's chances, Up is my fav Olly Murs song ever, and I'm pretty sure Demi plays a big part in way it's my fav

Up reminds me of Broken Strings by James Morrisson for some reason!
Desktop version seems to combine the songs while the web version is more like itunes with multiple versions showing up in the charts

OK So I just need to install it?

Really quite incredible to see 'Uptown Funk' doing so well despite such a late release (in terms of this week). I can see this being to 2015 what 'Happy' was to this year.

 

Good to see Olly back in top 5 albums as well, atta boy :) Does anyone know how 'Up' with Demi is doing? I know it's #40 or so on iTunes atm. The digital EP for it is out on 5th January and the video premieres tomorrow.

Up reminds me of Broken Strings by James Morrisson for some reason!

funny that cause that's one of the songs I'm thinking it'll perform like chart wise. I can see it going top 20 from the X Factor performance + Olly's tv special then shoot up to top 3 in the new year. Could maybe scrape top 40 this week too but doubt it.

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Mark Ronson should hopefully be top 5 today, maybe even top 3, with that big lead on LPBs, looking forward to the mids later, should be interesting. I just wish he waited another fortnight though at least to have a consecutive run at #1 without a break. I'm not really a fan of seeing acts returning to the #1 spot weeks later.
If Uptown Funk gets to number one, it will be Mark Ronson's first number one in his 11 year-long career.
If Uptown Funk gets to number one, it will be Mark Ronson's first number one in his 11 year-long career.
I hope we get reminded of that every single week :magic:
Uptown Funk has a small lead over Band Aid in today's mids - no surprise

 

 

Can you please back up your post with a source, for I know you could have just made that up

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