I don't understand what you want to say about this but fair enough lol.

To be fair she was once very much relevant and I thought the same about her at that time too. I don't dislike her just think she's nothingy.

 

I wasn't trying to start a thing. I was just making a little point that you basically said about Dido what many have been saying about Ed. Now I could reel off lists about what Dido's mass appeal is/was but it still wouldn't change your opinion on her.

 

However when some say they can't understand the mass appeal of Ed Sheeran, some posters DO reel off lists and say things like 'how can you not see it?' It's like we all have to agree or something.

She got that kind of criticism long before she became irrelevant. I for example thougt her songs were all boring

 

And Ed Sheeran, still relevant, is getting similar criticism now. It's just not going down well with his fans.

I wasn't trying to start a thing. I was just making a little point that you basically said about Dido what many have been saying about Ed. Now I could reel off lists about what Dido's mass appeal is/was but it still wouldn't change your opinion on her.

 

However when some say they can't understand the mass appeal of Ed Sheeran, some posters DO reel off lists and say things like 'how can you not see it?' It's like we all have to agree or something.

Of course you're right there are a lot of factors why she was successful, I was making a joke like you do. Sarcasm, you know. :P

 

So don't bite me mr teacher :D

I may be wrong but I get the feeling Ed Sheeran has much wider appeal than them, he is very popular with young people as well as the older demographic that were responsible for those people's success. I can see him having much more longevity than any of them as well.

 

I agree. I haven't bought albums by any of those artists listed but I have bought Ed Sheeran as I've liked the singles. The album is not a 10/10 having purchased it though and not one I have listened to over and over.

Of course it is. I can take or leave Ed Sherran. Have liked a couple of his songs but don't own any of his albums. For me Olly Murs with has average bland voice, dodgy dancing and wall to wall promo falls into the overrated category. I fail to see any appeal but obviously others do.

 

You summed up my opinion of Murs very well :)

I think some of Ed Sheeran's 'cooler' appeal comes from the fact that he worked very very hard to get where he is today.

 

I'm not saying he's the only one who did what he did in the years before his breakthrough but it gives him the credibility to add to his appeal.

I don't really get that. Most artists that don't come from reality TV have to work incredibly hard to get to where they are. Surely the only thing that makes him cool is the fact that, well, he is. I've seen him in interviews and he actually acts like a regular young person with a regular young person's sense of humour. Emeli Sandé may have worked very hard to get to where she is but she's never gonna be cool when she dresses like an 80 year old.

Of course it is. I can take or leave Ed Sherran. Have liked a couple of his songs but don't own any of his albums. For me Olly Murs with has average bland voice, dodgy dancing and wall to wall promo falls into the overrated category. I fail to see any appeal but obviously others do.

 

Yes, of course it's a matter of opinion. I agree with you totally about Olly Murs - in fact I find him irritating.

Ed's work with hip-hop acts (and some hip-hop influences in his own music, obviously not in 'The A Team' and 'Thinking Out Loud' et al but certainly in 'You Need Me, I Don't Need You' and 'Sing') has probably also contributed a lot to his popularity with the younger demographic. That's why I think releasing 'Sing' as the first single from this album was a good move, of course he could have just come back with a predictable ballad (i.e. releasing 'Thinking Out Loud' as the first single) and it would have been huge but an overkill of those sort of singles from him would probably have a negative impact on his long-term relevance.

TOL was always going to be perfect for a Nov release to keep sales ticking during this important period!

I don't really get that. Most artists that don't come from reality TV have to work incredibly hard to get to where they are. Surely the only thing that makes him cool is the fact that, well, he is. I've seen him in interviews and he actually acts like a regular young person with a regular young person's sense of humour.

 

In fact, I pretty much agree with you (and I would say that even reality stars have to work to get anywhere beyond the second single) but there is definitely a perception that Sheeran is somebody who did things the "right" way, a somewhat old-fashioned route to fame. It's not something I personally believe in but it's something that's been deeply enough instilled that even the multi-million pound budgets and star collaborators that are part of his career now don't undermine it. And Bre is totally right about the other source of "cred" he gets from his hip-hop collaborations and that 'Sing' was a masterstroke choice of comeback single.

 

Basically, I'm no fan of Sheeran but I can completely understand why he's the biggest pop star in Britain.

In fact, I pretty much agree with you (and I would say that even reality stars have to work to get anywhere beyond the second single) but there is definitely a perception that Sheeran is somebody who did things the "right" way, a somewhat old-fashioned route to fame. It's not something I personally believe in but it's something that's been deeply enough instilled that even the multi-million pound budgets and star collaborators that are part of his career now don't undermine it. And Bre is totally right about the other source of "cred" he gets from his hip-hop collaborations and that 'Sing' was a masterstroke choice of comeback single.

 

Basically, I'm no fan of Sheeran but I can completely understand why he's the biggest pop star in Britain.

 

A lot of reality stars have often worked for years before they get a break on a TV show like the XF as well. Sure there are those that just show up at auditions and may get lucky and are there for fame of any kind rather than music (hello Jake Quickenden) but using this years show an example Ben Haenow has been gigging try to make it for 10 years and even Fleur who I was not a fan of has been trying to for years with little success before XF. They have also worked hard. And yes it is yery hard to maintain it even if you are a popular winner. Nothing is "easy".

Edited December 26, 201411 yr by torresgirl

Doesn't the fact that they haven't made it tell you something though?

 

Gone are the days when hidden talent gets discovered on X factor. It's all people who have been trying for years and failing (usually cos they aren't good enough) or people who did have something but it didn't work out.

Doesn't the fact that they haven't made it tell you something though?

 

Gone are the days when hidden talent gets discovered on X factor. It's all people who have been trying for years and failing (usually cos they aren't good enough) or people who did have something but it didn't work out.

 

No not really. There are so many talented performers and often people who don't make it are more talented than the ones that do. There is a lot of luck involved. There isn't enough promo/money and record company investment for everyone who has a talent to make it surely.There are a lot of talented people that go on XF but there are also those who are not very good and are just trying their luck. Its just a matter of getting noticed.

Edited December 26, 201411 yr by torresgirl

Now we all know that somebody doesn't have to have talent to be successful. It's usually a matter of appeal and target audience. Some acts genuinely do get a bad taste of the industry, unorganised and disadvantaged record labels, etc.

Edited December 26, 201411 yr by MrIndependent

Really looking forward to album sales this week, In conjunction with the pre-Christmas sales Google Play have had some epic 99p deals for Ed Sheeran, Onr Direction, Olly Murs, Coldplay, Frozen Soundtrack etc, which have hopefully been purchased a lot - Also was in HMV today and they have some good deals of £4.99 or £6.99 for chart albums.

Ed's work with hip-hop acts (and some hip-hop influences in his own music, obviously not in 'The A Team' and 'Thinking Out Loud' et al but certainly in 'You Need Me, I Don't Need You' and 'Sing') has probably also contributed a lot to his popularity with the younger demographic. That's why I think releasing 'Sing' as the first single from this album was a good move, of course he could have just come back with a predictable ballad (i.e. releasing 'Thinking Out Loud' as the first single) and it would have been huge but an overkill of those sort of singles from him would probably have a negative impact on his long-term relevance.

 

This.

 

I've argued before that he's the biggest crossover star in the UK at the moment, and this confirms it.

 

The No.5 Collobartions Project ensured the support of the hip hop/grime scene and what attracted me to him in the first place.

 

Songs like A Team and Thinking Out Loud aren't for people like me, more for mass radio play and Heart FM listeners.

 

Today's 99p Google Play albums - Really hope album sales have a massive boost this week due to these deals!

 

Take That - lll

Paolo Nutini - Caustic Love

John Legend - Future Love (Special Edition)

They have done some genuinely brilliant deals this year. Hopefully they will be just as good next year.

Is the radio 1 chart show on today? Or is Jameela on holiday? :lol:

Is the radio 1 chart show on today? Or is Jameela on holiday? :lol:

It is on and Jameela will be hosting it.