May has actually made some points since she quit as PM for once

May has actually made some points since she quit as PM for once

 

I don't think she was ever that bad. The problem she had was she was trying to pretend she was a Brexiteer and was dealing with the less moderate part of the party throwing their toys out of the pram at the same time as trying to hold back Labour. Problem was after the dismal performance in the 2017 elections along with some dismal policies she never really got going. The irony is she negotiated a better Brexit deal than this Government could ever dream of.

May’s biggest mistake was calling the election.

Sorry are we talking about the same Theresa May? Home secretary for 6 years, fostered the 'hostile environment' which ultimately led to the Windrush scandal ? The one who called an election when 20 points ahead in the polls and botched it so badly that she almost lost to Jeremy Corbyn ... ? Wasn't that bad. Sheesh, how bad have things got for this to seem 'not that bad' ?

I don't think she was ever that bad. The problem she had was she was trying to pretend she was a Brexiteer and was dealing with the less moderate part of the party throwing their toys out of the pram at the same time as trying to hold back Labour. Problem was after the dismal performance in the 2017 elections along with some dismal policies she never really got going. The irony is she negotiated a better Brexit deal than this Government could ever dream of.

The Brexit deal negotiated by the Theresa May government, in particular the December 2017 backstop for Northern Ireland, was basically the same as the one we got two years later. Only in 2017 the Tories were still trying to court the DUP whereas two years later they were happy to throw them under the bus.

 

The ERG, Boris Johnson and David Davis etc. threw their toys out the pram at the Theresa May-branded deal but welcomed it with open arms when the same deal came back in the form of a 'breakthrough' two years later. Because it was never about Brexit or Northern Ireland or protecting the union*, it was all about personal ambition and installing Johnson as Prime Minister.

 

*I honestly believe that Theresa May, alongside figures like Ruth Davidson (remember her? x), is one of the last prominent few politicians that genuinely cares about preserving the union. But in the end, even she voted to put the UK's economic border in the Irish Sea.

Sorry are we talking about the same Theresa May? Home secretary for 6 years, fostered the 'hostile environment' which ultimately led to the Windrush scandal ? The one who called an election when 20 points ahead in the polls and botched it so badly that she almost lost to Jeremy Corbyn ... ? Wasn't that bad. Sheesh, how bad have things got for this to seem 'not that bad' ?

 

To clarify, I meant her biggest mistake for her personally, not for everyone in general.

 

Though history will be kinder to her just because of what came after.

Sorry are we talking about the same Theresa May? Home secretary for 6 years, fostered the 'hostile environment' which ultimately led to the Windrush scandal ? The one who called an election when 20 points ahead in the polls and botched it so badly that she almost lost to Jeremy Corbyn ... ? Wasn't that bad. Sheesh, how bad have things got for this to seem 'not that bad' ?

 

She was 100% better than the third rates we have in power now. Her problem was she was a moderate trying to appease all sides of the party which she clearly couldn't do. After the 2017 election gaffe she lost the Party. Every Prime Minister from the past 30 years has their own low point..

Yeah Roo but that’s not saying anything tho is it? A literal cardboard cut out would make a better PM than the one we have. You could pick almost anyone off the street and they would be better.

 

Saying may isn’t so bad given what followed is like stepping in dog shit barefoot and then falling into an open sewer. In hindsight the first one ain’t so bad but you still stepped barefoot into literal shit.

She was 100% better than the third rates we have in power now. Her problem was she was a moderate trying to appease all sides of the party which she clearly couldn't do. After the 2017 election gaffe she lost the Party. Every Prime Minister from the past 30 years has their own low point..

I'm struggling to think of any Cabinet member good enough to be called third rate :unsure:

A 'moderate' who rhetorically at least kowtowed to UKIPs demands on immigration (but ultimately despite harassing the Windrush generation did not meet her self-imposed targets of reducing it to the tens of thousands), was happy to be described as a 'bloody difficult woman', so stubborn, utterly inflexible and unlikeable as to make it impossible for her opponents to be seen to compromise with her, build ANY supportive allies whatsover, and managed to unite her party against her on an almost weekly basis.

 

She was absolutely hopeless. Yet, you're right - still 100% better than this current shitshow.

 

Julian Lewis has been chucked out of the Tory Parliamentary Party for working with Labour MPs to get himself elected as chair of the Intelligence Committee, beating Chris Grayling

The Tories have been trying to stop the publication of the report into allegations of Russian interference in the referendum and UK elections for a long time. It should have been published before the election but Johnson blocked it. Since the election, the excuse has been that publication has to be agreed by the Intelligence and Security Committee.

 

What's the problem? We had an election over seven months ago, so surely the committee has been re-formed? Er, no, not quite. The committee is chaired by an MP from the governing party. Since the committee was created, it has been chaired by an MP whose experience commands respect from MPs of all parties. Until now. Johnson (and his unelected bureaucrat boss Cummings) wanted to give the job to Chris Grayling. Yes, the Chris Grayling who awarded a ferry contract to a company that didn't own a single ferry and had no experience in running ferries. The Chris Grayling whose time as Justice Secretary was so disastrous that almost everything he did has been reversed without a change of government.

 

Unsurprisingly, the opposition wasn't too keen on the idea. So, they nominated a different Tory, Julian Lewis, for the job, He can't be described as a Labour stooge. He was a strong supporter of Leave. He is not exactly a supporter of openness, He is the only MP not to allow his constituents to contact him by email. However, he has also demonstrated a willingness to think for himself. Most of the Tories voted for Grayling. Opposition MPs and Julian Lewis voted for Lewis which meant he won.

 

So, did Johnson congratulate him? No. He threw him out of the Tory party. Once again, failure to agree that Boris Johnson is the most amazingly brilliant person ever to have existed in this, or any other, universe leads to the sack.

Julian Lewis has been chucked out of the Tory Parliamentary Party for working with Labour MPs to get himself elected as chair of the Intelligence Committee, beating Chris Grayling

You posted a shortened version of my post :lol:

Chris Graying is probably the only MP that can't get a job that was handed to him on a plate :rofl:

 

Isn't this more the rebellion of the backbenchers? The whole thing wasn't orchestrated by Julian Lewis and the opposition, I think it required some other Tory MPs to ignore the whip. Can't see the backbechers liking the whip being removed.

You posted a shortened version of my post :lol:

 

I just copy and pasted a Laura Keunsberg tweet lol

I'm ready to read through pages and pages of redacted text at last *_*

 

 

Chris Graying is probably the only MP that can't get a job that was handed to him on a plate :rofl:

 

Isn't this more the rebellion of the backbenchers? The whole thing wasn't orchestrated by Julian Lewis and the opposition, I think it required some other Tory MPs to ignore the whip. Can't see the backbechers liking the whip being removed.

No, the other Tories voted for Grayling. The swing vote was Lewis's and he voted for himself.

I’m laughing so hard at this. The first time failing grayling has failed to fail upwards. How he is still an MP I will never know.

 

 

Julian Lewis has been chucked out of the Tory Parliamentary Party for working with Labour MPs to get himself elected as chair of the Intelligence Committee, beating Chris Grayling

 

 

I just copy and pasted a Laura Keunsberg tweet lol

Of course the minister for propaganda wholly forgets the SNP are seated on the committee as parliaments third largest party. :rolleyes:

I'm always glad to see Grayling not get what he wanted. And more evidence that this government only wants sycophants near them.

 

Very interested to see what Julian Lewis and the Intelligence Committee do now without partisanship.

Completely farcical, if the Government weren't simply ‘parachuting in’ failing Grayling, why were they hassling Lewis to vote him in ?

 

The Committee has unanimously agreed this morning that it will publish the Report on Russia prepared by its predecessor before the house rises for the summer recess.

 

There will be no further comment."

 

 

Looking forward to pages and pages of black lines then. :lol: