It's just the usual problem, a small minority of people not being smart enough to see how this is going to be used, but I don't know what the Tories were thinking, this was largely self made with the Bill itself. But they have just given the Government what they want now, I'm all for a peaceful protest, but not sure a peaceful protest named Kill the Bill is the wisest idea.

I would guess it was like the usual anti-lockdowners at this protest judging by lack of masks. :drama:

 

This new anti-police trend that has emerged as a result of the events at Clapham Common, that it's now acceptable to attack ANY police officers because a few of them made a mistake and had too much of a heavy handed approach at Clapham, is responsible though. Cressida Dick should apologise for getting the approach wrong at Clapham and then we can all move on from this disturbing rise in anti-police sentiment please.

 

The Bill I don't think I agree with though, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Covid and preventing protests during lockdown, I thought it might have been because of it.

Why do you think they are in such a hurry to introduce it? They are clearly hoping a lot of people will think it is specifically linked to Covid whereas it is a law with no time limit. It also gives the Home Secretary (not just the present one) widespread powers to act without the approval of parliament. If she can't say with a straight face that she would have been perfectly happy for Dianne Abbott to have granted herself those powers, she shouldn't be introducing them at all.

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nice that the Home Secretary is using fascist-adjacent rhetoric to twist the situation in Bristol and assume the collective will of the people as being in favour of a bill that outlaws protesting

 

also nice that said protests have that violence, as ever, amounting to protesters hitting defenceless police batons or smth like that

Oh I live Bristol and the reporting from social media and the local press like Bristol Post is completely different to how its portrayed by Johnson, Patel and the right wing national dailies like the Mail and Telegraph where its portrayed as feral, violent yobs.

 

Well theres national demos next Saturday which should be interesting

 

 

Of course this will help the Tories and their drive to a facist authoritarian state. Dont forget it's highly rumoured Patel wants the death penalty reintroduced and in current climate would pass.

Irony from Patel given her dodgy money laundering expenses. She’s a right wrong un

 

 

 

The footage from Bristol is sickening. This is failed state against people revolting against a dictatorship levels of police abuse. It’s horrific and theres some clips where the cops can only be described as vindictive and vicious and are inflicting pain with intent. You can see in the action the hatred in it, it goes so far beyond self defence it should land most of these cops in a prison cell

The police always, ALWAYS show their true face when the Tories are jn. Thr mask never fails to slip.

We all know ther history with the Sheffield constabulary in the 1980s

Irony from Patel given her dodgy money laundering expenses. She’s a right wrong un

The footage from Bristol is sickening. This is failed state against people revolting against a dictatorship levels of police abuse. It’s horrific and theres some clips where the cops can only be described as vindictive and vicious and are inflicting pain with intent. You can see in the action the hatred in it, it goes so far beyond self defence it should land most of these cops in a prison cell

 

I don't agree with the principles of this new bill, and violence and an overly heavy handed approach by the police is wrong and counterproductive especially considering what happened at Clapham Common but I think people should still be fined though for breaking coronavirus restrictions. People can't gather in large groups for funerals after all so why should this protest with no visible effort being made to social distance be allowed without the police doing anything at all?

Edited March 27, 20214 yr by The. Snake.

OH MY GOD LEAVE YOUR BEDROOM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THERES MORE TO LIFE THAN THE f***ING CORONA RULES

 

 

 

some things are more important than the ridiculous ban on public assembly. Namely the government and the f***ing police going full fash.

An authoritarian government using the cover of a pandemic to restrict public assembly is the sort of thing that will be incredibly harmful in the future and take a long and torturous process to unravel back to where it should be.

 

It is absolutely the sort of thing that should be protested against and the police do not need to respond with the sort of violence that I've seen them do, in fact it's disturbing that senior governmental figures and the BBC/right-wing press have prioritised apparent protester violence in comparison to the multiple examples of police violence emerging from eyewitness accounts and independent journalism.

An authoritarian government using the cover of a pandemic to restrict public assembly is the sort of thing that will be incredibly harmful in the future and take a long and torturous process to unravel back to where it should be.

 

It is absolutely the sort of thing that should be protested against and the police do not need to respond with the sort of violence that I've seen them do, in fact it's disturbing that senior governmental figures and the BBC/right-wing press have prioritised apparent protester violence in comparison to the multiple examples of police violence emerging from eyewitness accounts and independent journalism.

 

Not sure I understand the proposed Bill fully but unless I am mistaken, the proposed Bill these protests are against isn't to do with the pandemic, and doesn't use Covid as a reason for restricting protests, it's restricting certain kinds of protests anyway regardless of Covid. If that is true then the Tories have brought these protests and associated ockdown breaches on themselves.

 

With regards to the BBC they have probably just kept it lower down on their list of news articles after Alex Salmond and vaccine news to avoid more people breaking lockdown rules and joining the protests. Also some people might just using the protest locations as a place where they can break lockdown rules and meet up with all their friends under cover of protesting.

 

The rules on prohibiting mass gatherings has been essentially undermined by these protests anyway, it's as if restrictions on gatherings is over in all but name.

 

As for violence the BBC website quoted the police saying the protests were mostly peaceful yesterday.

 

 

No thr BBTory kept it lower down in order to attack the SNP some more in defence of their unionist Tories.

Not sure I understand the proposed Bill fully but unless I am mistaken, the proposed Bill these protests are against isn't to do with the pandemic, and doesn't use Covid as a reason for restricting protests, it's restricting certain kinds of protests anyway regardless of Covid. If that is true then the Tories have brought these protests and associated ockdown breaches on themselves.

 

With regards to the BBC they have probably just kept it lower down on their list of news articles after Alex Salmond and vaccine news to avoid more people breaking lockdown rules and joining the protests. Also some people might just using the protest locations as a place where they can break lockdown rules and meet up with all their friends under cover of protesting.

 

The rules on prohibiting mass gatherings has been essentially undermined by these protests anyway, it's as if restrictions on gatherings is over in all but name.

 

As for violence the BBC website quoted the police saying the protests were mostly peaceful yesterday.

 

Some things are bigger than lockdown rules.

 

If anything you’re bleating on about was true we’d be seeing other non protest mass gatherings cropping up and we’re not.

No thr BBTory kept it lower down in order to attack the SNP some more in defence of their unionist Tories.

 

The two new proposed right-wing news channels sounds much worse than any bias that might exist in the BBC though, how Ofcom allowed such channels is beyond me. Left-wing people should have been out protesting about that too.

Edited March 28, 20214 yr by The. Snake.

Some things are bigger than lockdown rules.

 

But lockdown rules exist to save lives. It is the same level of importance at least.

19 people died of covid today in the whole country.

 

I wonder how many died of other causes and where the outcry is about that.

But lockdown rules exist to save lives. It is the same level of importance at least.

 

If you believe it’s same level then maybe you should stop moaning about protesting. Thousands of people have been mixing daily indoors in large numbers with poor ventilation over the past few weeks due to schools returning. That is clearly going to have more effect (if any at all) than people protesting outside.

19 people died of covid today in the whole country.

 

I wonder how many died of other causes and where the outcry is about that.

 

Why does there have to be a heirarchy?

I do agree with you T Boy that perhaps I have been a bit too anti protest when more risky situations for Covid spread have occurred in schools as you mention.

these damn reports, one after the other.

 

the government has investigated itself on whether it is institutionally racist and found that it is not institutionally racist

 

the police have investigated themselves on whether they acted appropriately and found that they did not act appropriately