March 8, 20179 yr The hyperbole in here is actually amusing now :lol: my goodness people need to chill. The best form of representation in the chart is key (hell no to the airplay inclusion and cutting off after 20 weeks suggestions, Billboard clone no thank you) and Ed Sheeran's current era is clearly phenomenally popular. Actual 'singles' being all that is in the chart died out a long time ago. This may be an extreme example of album tracks charting but if it's what people are downloading and streaming the most right now then so be it. They'll fall away in time. I understand the album streaming thing is flawed but this really is not the end of the world, believe it or not. The chart actually feels RELEVANT right now with this Ed domination tbh, my parents and Uni coursemates have actually been talking about it :o
March 8, 20179 yr Yes, this week's chart will probably be the first time the charts have been big in the news since probably the NHS Choir :o or earlier
March 8, 20179 yr The hyperbole in here is actually amusing now :lol: my goodness people need to chill. The best form of representation in the chart is key (hell no to the airplay inclusion and cutting off after 20 weeks suggestions, Billboard clone no thank you) and Ed Sheeran's current era is clearly phenomenally popular. Actual 'singles' being all that is in the chart died out a long time ago. This may be an extreme example of album tracks charting but if it's what people are downloading and streaming the most right now then so be it. They'll fall away in time. I understand the album streaming thing is flawed but this really is not the end of the world, believe it or not. The chart actually feels RELEVANT right now with this bizarre one, my parents were actually talking about it :o Oh dear oh dear... then lets not call it the SINGLES chart, lets just call it the SONGS chart, and get rid of the old fashioned idea of an OFFICIAL singles chart. It really isn't the end of the world, but it really is the end of the SINGLES chart, it's lost it's uniqueness. You'll see.
March 8, 20179 yr Oh dear oh dear... then lets not call it the SINGLES chart, lets just call it the SONGS chart, and get rid of the old fashioned idea of an OFFICIAL singles chart. It really isn't the end of the world, but it really is the end of the SINGLES chart, it's lost it's uniqueness. You'll see. Boom, times have changed to adapt to the way we listen to music. It's baffling that this argument is being brought up now :lol: Ed may be an extreme case but it's been this way for 10+ years now?!
March 8, 20179 yr As I've said before, I don't think myself, or most other people really mind that much for just a one or two week thing. It's actually interesting and impressive to see an artist managing such heights of success, whether you happen to be a fan or not. But the tracks will probably hold up extremely well, and I think when it's been over a month and most of the album is still clogging up the UK top 20 singles chart, that becomes quite the problem. And I think that's where a lot of people are worried/annoyed/frustrated.
March 8, 20179 yr May I recommend just following this instead for those people whose lives are apparently badly affected by Ed Sheeran being popular ~ http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-sales-chart/
March 8, 20179 yr I was so disgusted by this I went on Sheeran's Facebook page and told him (I've no idea if he reads the posts!) that he is undeserving of nine hits in the top ten. I've also been on Radio 1, the OCC, and Spotify's FB pages and told them how I feel about this. I bet they'll all be losing sleep over this :lol:
March 8, 20179 yr The singles chart began in November 1952. Al Martino's 'Here In My Heart' was the first number one record. Radio 1 began broadcasting a regular chart show from 1967. In 1978 the chart became the UK Top 40, replacing the top 20 format. Since 1978 the chart has adapted to the times: records to compact discs to digital downloads to streaming. And now, in March of 2017, the Official Chart Company has killed the chart. RIP UK Singles Chart 1978 - 2017 :( Edited March 8, 20179 yr by soundman
March 8, 20179 yr yes it's very annoying but it's not the end of the singles chart as we know it!! most of these album tracks will be out the top 40 in a month hopefully.
March 8, 20179 yr Boom, times have changed to adapt to the way we listen to music. It's baffling that this argument is being brought up now :lol: Ed may be an extreme case but it's been this way for 10+ years now?! Boom... times have changed, but this isn't a change for the better; it's being brought up now because this is the first major instance when album tracks have so dominated the official singles chart, thus creating great initial press, but will lead to stagnation and the demise and interest in the singles chart long term, so I think you've missed the point. New artists will find it even harder to secure a Top 40 placing. I love having streaming and downloads, it's a true representation afterall, but ONLY if it's an official single - if it's not then it's an album track UNTIL the record company chose to release it as single, then it's sales can appear on the singles chart - until then it's streams/downloads etc count, but towards the album chart only; not rocket science really is it?????
March 8, 20179 yr Friday will be the crappiest moment in chart history. When Greg James introduces the chart on Friday afternoon... that's it, the final insult, the final humiliation. It's the greatest scandal in chart history. I was so disgusted by this I went on Sheeran's Facebook page and told him (I've no idea if he reads the posts!) that he is undeserving of nine hits in the top ten. I've also been on Radio 1, the OCC, and Spotify's FB pages and told them how I feel about this. Admittedly, I probably need 'to get a life' :lol: and put this all into perspective but even so, it's a bloody disgrace. I hope the chart dies. Good riddance to it. I've still got memories of the old chart which had several new entries per week, where people bought records/cds. The OCC and streaming apps can't take away my memories!!!! dude could you like just chill or something
March 8, 20179 yr Friday will be the crappiest moment in chart history. When Greg James introduces the chart on Friday afternoon... that's it, the final insult, the final humiliation. It's the greatest scandal in chart history. I was so disgusted by this I went on Sheeran's Facebook page and told him (I've no idea if he reads the posts!) that he is undeserving of nine hits in the top ten. I've also been on Radio 1, the OCC, and Spotify's FB pages and told them how I feel about this. Admittedly, I probably need 'to get a life' :lol: and put this all into perspective but even so, it's a bloody disgrace. I hope the chart dies. Good riddance to it. I've still got memories of the old chart which had several new entries per week, where people bought records/cds. The OCC and streaming apps can't take away my memories!!!!yeah but death by old age can which judging by your reaction should be soon?
March 8, 20179 yr I love having streaming and downloads, it's a true representation afterall, but ONLY if it's an official single - if it's not then it's an album track UNTIL the record company chose to release it as single, then it's sales can appear on the singles chart - until then it's streams/downloads etc count, but towards the album chart only; not rocket science really is it????? Well it is a lot more difficult then you are suggesting, for example “Galway Girl” appears to be very popular with the public (#2 on iTunes) and it is not yet an official single. It would be a bit silly to exclude this when it is clearly popular with the public despite not being an 'official' single. The chart hasn't been a singles chart since around January 2007!
March 8, 20179 yr Boom... times have changed, but this isn't a change for the better; it's being brought up now because this is the first major instance when album tracks have so dominated the official singles chart, thus creating great initial press, but will lead to stagnation and the demise and interest in the singles chart long term, so I think you've missed the point. New artists will find it even harder to secure a Top 40 placing. I love having streaming and downloads, it's a true representation afterall, but ONLY if it's an official single - if it's not then it's an album track UNTIL the record company chose to release it as single, then it's sales can appear on the singles chart - until then it's streams/downloads etc count, but towards the album chart only; not rocket science really is it????? The chart became stagnant a while ago tbh. It is a shocking sight to see lots of Ed tracks in the top 40 but at least some of them will fade away within the coming weeks. Obviously I know the reason WHY this 'singles chart = just singles' point has been brought up but it's strange how people are acting as if non-singles in the chart is brand new information or something. I can see your point but I am personally for the inclusion of everything. Some tracks will organically take off whether they're a single or not and I don't think that these should just be shunned, it wouldn't be an accurate representation of what people are actually buying/listening to on the formats we have nowadays. I do think things need to be tweaked in terms of what is counted as a full album stream and whatnot though, there have been good suggestions in here about that. (Btw I totally get why people are moaning if they don't like Ed's music, I would definitely not be tuning in if it was Sam Smith :P but not a lot you can do if this is what the public is listening to the most. Just don't tune in to the chart for a few weeks and chill.)
March 8, 20179 yr RIP UK Singles Chart 1978 - 2017 Ed could have come back this time last year and achieved the same sort of domination, so at least the UK Singles Chart got another year of life thanks to his year out <3 He is simply the most popular artist around right now, even on the sales chart he's going to have four of the top ten and the majority of the album in the top 40. Streaming has obviously amplified it hugely, and it does make it look a little more ridiculous than it otherwise would, but even on sales alone Divide is still going to be the most cherry picked album of all time. I do, however, agree that the OCC need to look at separating full/majority album plays from single track plays if Spotify et al have a way of providing that broken down data. I don't think he should have nine of the top ten - as a lot of it is based on full album plays, but based on his iTunes success too he's definitely entitled to half of it this week!
March 8, 20179 yr The singles chart began in November 1952. Al Martino's 'Here In My Heart' was the first number one record. Radio 1 began broadcasting a regular chart show from 1967. In 1978 the chart became the UK Top 40, replacing the top 20 format. Since 1978 the chart has adapted to the times: records to compact discs to digital downloads to streaming. And now, in March of 2017, the Official Chart Company has killed the chart. RIP UK Singles Chart 1978 - 2017 :( :D :D :D You are right of course, no coming back from this travesty. They will never be taken seriously again. I say we engineer public tastes to get them listening to things in the way they would in the old days. True chart nirvana can only be obtained through manipulation of people's minds and careful selection of chart rules to ensure the Sheeran can never again bring terror to the chart like he has this week.
March 8, 20179 yr Well it is a lot more difficult then you are suggesting, for example “Galway Girl” appears to be very popular with the public (#2 on iTunes) and it is not yet an official single. It would be a bit silly to exclude this when it is clearly popular with the public despite not being an 'official' single. The chart hasn't been a singles chart since around January 2007! So what? It's not difficult at all. Until it's an official single its sales should count towards the album only.... The singles chart is dead. Bailing out on this now, first world problems and all :lol:
March 8, 20179 yr (alt-Jade ∆ @ Mar 8 2017, 04:19 PM) * The hyperbole in here is actually amusing now laugh.gif my goodness people need to chill. The best form of representation in the chart is key (hell no to the airplay inclusion and cutting off after 20 weeks suggestions, Billboard clone no thank you) and Ed Sheeran's current era is clearly phenomenally popular. Actual 'singles' being all that is in the chart died out a long time ago. This may be an extreme example of album tracks charting but if it's what people are downloading and streaming the most right now then so be it. They'll fall away in time. I understand the album streaming thing is flawed but this really is not the end of the world, believe it or not. The chart actually feels RELEVANT right now with this bizarre one, my parents were actually talking about it The chart is a BRITISH institution. It's part of the fabric of British popular culture. Sure, the chart isn't that important anymore - when the internet came along and you could download music it made the top 40 a bit irrelevant, and I don't think the overall quality of chart music improved when things went digital - but the chart, imperfect as it is, was worth keeping. What the OCC have done is, no exaggeration, disgraceful. As I bored you lot with an earlier post where I mentioned Justin Bieber's eight album tracks and the OCC did sod all about it, so that was the warning sign, that was the omen things were going to get worse for the chart. And then Ed Sheeran comes along with his drippy pop and he appeals to teen girls and women that used to like Take That but prefer Sheeran to Gary Barlow and his fanbase swells and they've hijacked the chart. The OCC has let Sheeran's large fanbase hijack the singles chart with these album songs and are they gonna apologize for this disaster? Heck, no. I'll put money on Friday evening's OCC website praising "RECORD BREAKING" Ed Sheeran! They won't admit it's a disaster. They'll pretend everything is fine in chart land. Chart fans will see through their charade. The chart won't recover from this. I pray it doesn't. I said the chart was worth keeping but not after this scandal. It should die. Let a new chart format replace it. Perhaps some decent compromise format can be worked out. Who knows, this might be a blessing in disguise. Sheeran and the lame ass OCC destroy the chart and its replaced with something better. I hope so. Edited March 8, 20179 yr by soundman
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