He isn't above the law. Tricky Dicky just resigned, but he had more honour.

I quite like Warren. What's the issue with her?

None if you're left of center, she'd be a dream of a president. The exception is Bernie bros too attached to the idea of their saviour being president.

 

Nixon's senators, Republicans included, made it clear they'd vote to remove him from office, and that's why he resigned. I don't consider it likely, but if Republican senators see that too much evidence is coming out against Trump, and to continue to support him would be to attach themselves to a criminal failure, they might do the same.

 

The big difference between Trump and Nixon is that I don't expect Trump to have the honour to leave the office in anything resembling a dignified fashion.

I quite like Warren.

 

 

I do too and the bookies think she'll be the nominee now. She could well beat Trump.

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None if you're left of center, she'd be a dream of a president. The exception is Bernie bros too attached to the idea of their saviour being president.

 

Every politician is worthy of criticism, Warren included, but it's interesting how they are so focused on branding her as this fake corporate centrist Clinton-esque politician who is only being backed by establishment Democrats.

 

And yet.

 

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I do too and the bookies think she'll be the nominee now. She could well beat Trump.

 

"They won't go for another woman" - Chris 1886.

 

Trump wants to execute the whistleblower. He is totally unfit for office and is a dictator wannabe. He needs to resign. Immediately.

I did a bit of research into the claims that Warren claimed she was Native American in order to get hired - which I've seen represented as fact - and would you look at that...

 

"In 2012, controversy arose when it was charged that Senator Elizabeth Warren had used a claim of Native American ancestry early in her career to gain hiring preference.[146] Warren denies that she ever claimed to be a minority to secure employment, and a review of her employment history and interviews of her past employers has been unable to find anything that supports the charge.[147]"

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The impeachment inquiry seems to be ramping up fairly quickly. Russia and Saudi Arabia are now involved in the mess, and public opinion is starting to change in favour of impeachment.

 

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I have a feeling that we are about to witness the most ridiculous pivot as Republicans realise they have to turn on Trump to save themselves and the future of the party.

 

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This is a very good DS post.

 

 

Depending on how far and deep this goes the GOP are going to face a very difficult situation. Sooner or later the party has to think about life after Trump. There's a real danger he could drag the entire party down a deep, dark hole. If it looks like Trump is going to lose 2020 then would voting down impeachment in the Senate be of any point, especially if doing so tarnishes the party and vulnerable Senators who face their own votes in 2020 & 2022?

 

If the case behind impeachment becomes so damning that ordinarily a guilty verdict would be a certainty any other outcome will be spun as being utterly partisan. Individual Rep. Senators will start to think carefully about their future over and above the President's and it won't take many to start changing their mind before a trickle becomes a flood.

 

It's a long shot and there are a lot of people who are going to lie down in front of the juggernaut (some willingly, others not) before it gets to the President but it could happen.

 

Trump might also come to realise that if he's very likely going to lose in 2020, that criminal charges are likely to swiftly follow, so getting Pence into office sooner rather than later (or at all) so he can get a pardon will be the only way he stays out of jail.

 

All very speculative of course.

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I said a long time ago that the Republicans would dump Trump if they thought he might cost them their seats.

It's looking really bad for the crook. They tried to hide transcripts of his tslks with Russia and Saudi too on a private server!!! The IRONY.

I said a long time ago that the Republicans would dump Trump if they thought he might cost them their seats.

 

 

I think that if polls look really bad soon and the impeachment is definitely going to a Senate trial then he may throw the towel in himself early next year. :(

 

 

Wonder how a Pence v Warren contest would pan out. That's if Pence wanted the nomination which I think he would, and got it. There could be a fierce contest if Trump resigned soon enough for primaries to take place. Pence may be tarnished by Trump enough to let Warren in as first female POTUS. I'd love to see a woman get the job in my lifetime. I remember Bella over on Haven, who's just a few years older than me, said no woman would become President within her lifetime and so far she's been correct, as Hillary failed. She said the US isn't ready to vote for a woman yet.

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Although tbf Hillary was cheated out of it by Russia and the fbi and Assange.

 

Pence will be interesting! He is a hardcore religious nut, a more traditional Repuke and will have the Trump cult. He's probably harder to beat than Trump.

It's looking really bad for the crook. They tried to hide transcripts of his tslks with Russia and Saudi too on a private server!!! The IRONY.

 

 

Yes for once I agree with you. :o :o It is rather ironic.

The talks were just before the journalist was killed too. This could very well be curtains for the orange one!

Pence will be interesting! He is a hardcore religious nut, a more traditional Repuke and will have the Trump cult. He's probably harder to beat than Trump.

 

 

I'd say he'll be harder to beat too.

Pence isn’t coming out of this rosy. President Pelosi more likely than President Pence

Trump just dropped Pence in it!

 

The conservatives are trying to paint him as the innocent party now!