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What do you mean? I think Trump's great and don't care who knows it. He's doing so much of what he's promised and even intends to build the wall. Many thought he wouldn't do it and it was a false promise just to get elected.

 

He's also a character and a breath of fresh air in the White House. I hope he gets a second term.

 

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Trump is a racist bullying stupid lying predatory misogynistic traitorous crook. That's why all of his political cronies are being picked off one by one by the FBI and pleading guilty as they work their way round to his direct family, and last of all Trump himself.

 

he has to run because he'll be arrested if he doesn't win. Everything he does is sleight of hand to distract from the investigations into his crimes. In the next election he won't be able to lie about his record in office and the fact that half his staff are in jail. He'll be a sitting duck. Yes his core fans won't give a shit that he's any of the above, but the people he lied to about saving jobs in communities across America won;t believe him this time and won;t vote for him. Even if they just stay away and don;t vote that'll be enough for a defeat, cos he lost the popular vote last time and only won by some dodgy wafer-thin States results.

 

Worst President in history, and will remain that way.

 

Apart from that he's a great bloke...

Trump is a racist bullying stupid lying predatory misogynistic traitorous crook.

 

You're certainly strident in labelling politicians you don't like. ;)

 

Unfortunately, in politics, nice guys don't win...

You're certainly strident in labelling politicians you don't like. ;)

 

Unfortunately, in politics, nice guys don't win...

 

I prefer to think of it as factual, which is why nobody can argue against any of those statements as the evidence is all in the public domain and courts.

 

Nice guys do win. Obama won for 8 years.

I prefer to think of it as factual, which is why nobody can argue against any of those statements as the evidence is all in the public domain and courts.

 

Nice guys do win. Obama won for 8 years.

 

He will be remembered as the first black POTUS, but for what else? :unsure:

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He will be remembered as the first black POTUS, but for what else? :unsure:

 

 

Yes he didn't do as much in eight years as Donald's done in two years. :)

Didn't have the longest ever US governmental shutdown due to a fixation on a pipe dream project, no. Well, I suppose that particular comparison, length of shutdown aside, is based on whether you prefer a decent step towards properly socialised healthcare or a regressive, xenophobic, laughable and impractical wall building project.

 

Obama was an orator. A man of class, a man who, hamstrung by his Congress, Trump is finding out how that works now, did the best to make sure the American people were represented by a man they could be proud of, and left the country in a much better state than when he found it. He will be remembered for the successful mission to capture Bin Laden, for the Affordable Care Act, for pulling America out of the financial crisis, for a robust and powerful foreign policy. Now that is one area where Trump has been utterly horrendous. Withdrawing from so many agreements on a whim, the travel ban, everything about Israel. Just because he has visibly done a lot (again, because he had the House support which is so important) doesn't mean it's good at all - ideally, politicians should NOT be making the news headlines - and I think his foreign policy bullishness will really harm America in the long run.

Yes he didn't do as much in eight years as Donald's done in two years. :)

 

he introduced universal healthcare available to poor people without being financially ruined, reduced the eye-watering debt left by Bush and boosted the ailing economy following the banking disaster that Bush oversaw, got rid of Bin Laden, pulled troops out of Iraq, and everything else he tried to achieve was blocked by the Republicans at every turn. His subsequent ack of achievement is down to them hating a black President almost as much as they hated the idea of a women President. They've had power for 2 years and what have they achieved? Not a thing. Any economy improvement is trickle-through from Obama not from anything Trump has done, it takes years to follow-through on policies. Trumnp has tried to destroy Obamacare, hit the poor, sent jobs oversees after promising he wouldn't, destroyed farming jobs with his mad foreign economics, imprisoned children, lost thousands of kids, no-one knows where they are now, didn't build a wall paid by Mexico, gave massive tax cuts to the super-rich, cut health programmes, halted efforts to tackle global warming, gave jobs to crooks, gave away government secrets to Russians, nearly started a war with North korea, started an arms race with Russia which will put the billions of dollars owed the Chinese right now look like peanuts, and the trillions of debt in the US economy in the shade, and damage the economies of the rest of the world.

 

Feel free to live in delusion though cos you just LOVE a strong man in power telling everyone's a loser except him. He's a loser, and so is the rest of the planet because of it.

 

Feel free to list his achievements though, it's only fair....

 

Here's mine:

 

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He won't do. He doesn't respond when presented with factual information remember? :lol:
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. He's a loser,

 

 

I hardly think you can call a guy a loser when he has built a business empire totalling as much as a billion dollars. Yes I know he got money to start from his father but he's still made a lot of money and had many successful projects over the decades.

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I hardly think you can call a guy a loser when he has built a business empire totalling as much as a billion dollars. Yes I know he got money to start from his father but he's still made a lot of money and had many successful projects over the decades.

And is one of the few people to have lost money running a casino.

I hardly think you can call a guy a loser when he has built a business empire totalling as much as a billion dollars. Yes I know he got money to start from his father but he's still made a lot of money and had many successful projects over the decades.

 

yes he's had multiple bankrupticies, most rceently his college which took money off people and gave nothing back. Loser.

 

He is estimated to be worth 3billion dollars, by Forbes, though his tax affairs are of interest to New York State and the US tax payer (if they can ever find out what they are), the banks kept him afloat in the 90's by lending him extra cash when he owed 10billion though his companies and one billion personally. Co-incidentally Trump's father died in 1999 and he inherited more dosh than he originally inherited as a child/young adult from his parents.

 

If only we all had enormously wealthy parents to finance our stupidity....!

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Bernie Sanders announces his run. Potentially oldest presidential candidate ever.

 

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(what an interesting way to show off Buzzjack's new functionality)

 

I guess "feel the bern" is back on. In all seriousness, a good thing, he could actually do well with the nomination based off of name power.

I really can’t see Bernie doing as well this time around. His main strength last time was his positioning himself as the only ‘non-establishment’ Democrat willing to take on the establishment candidate ie Hilary. Now that he’s got a profile and large following, as well as a more crowded field of candidates, he’ll have a harder time standing out - in all honesty I won’t be surprised if he is no longer a candidate come December.
Not following US politics *too* closely until we're right at election time but, I....I think I want someone else to win?
Perhaps they should just draw US Presidents by lot - after all, they could hardly do any worse... :P
I hardly think you can call a guy a loser when he has built a business empire totalling as much as a billion dollars. Yes I know he got money to start from his father but he's still made a lot of money and had many successful projects over the decades.

 

Perhaps the Republicans should nominate Ben Shapiro as Trump's successor... :P

I really can’t see Bernie doing as well this time around. His main strength last time was his positioning himself as the only ‘non-establishment’ Democrat willing to take on the establishment candidate ie Hilary. Now that he’s got a profile and large following, as well as a more crowded field of candidates, he’ll have a harder time standing out - in all honesty I won’t be surprised if he is no longer a candidate come December.

 

Especially since other left wingers such as Warren are standing this time too!

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