June 24, 20187 yr It is it's at #7? I was looking at the one linked on the last page which appears to be from a week ago, oops.
June 24, 20187 yr http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/video-streaming-chart/ El Chombo's 'Dame Tu Cosita' is #30 on this chart (ikonek) and that's only on YouTube with an Ultra Music upload so I presume they're counting official uploads by labels etc. as well. And 'I Am Your Gummy Bear' by Gummy Bear at #32 (whatever the hell that is) Anyway, its good to see a song that hasn't yet made the official top 40, 'London' by AJ and Deno ft EO is as high as #19! Perhaps there is some hope of some newer songs making the official chart faster then with the inclusion of video streams! Edited June 24, 20187 yr by The Snake
June 24, 20187 yr Lol wot at Gummy Bear being at #32?! :mellow: that song is well over ten years old and was somewhat of a viral sensation then. looks like it's been in the video streaming chart for 107 weeks too, who knew people were still watching it?! surprised 'German' is #1 over 'Girls Like You' anyhow.
June 24, 20187 yr Chart forum bingo: OCC rule change gets a response speculating on Ed Sheeran abusing it for some reason. Check.:) Well, duh. This is the chart forum afterall.
June 24, 20187 yr Also, why the hell has the Portuguese version of 'How Far I'll Go' been in the video streaming chart for 73 weeks and still there now? With the original or Alessia Cara version not to be seen either?
June 24, 20187 yr There are some songs in there I've never heard of in my life :lol: The title track from an Indian romance film being just outside the Top 50 is interesting.
June 24, 20187 yr Think it could help Bollywood songs reach the top 100 more often, like Diljit Dosanjh and Badshah.
June 24, 20187 yr Hopefully with this change, artists will invest more into making actually decent music videos. The big pop artists have been failing in that department lately.
June 24, 20187 yr The charts are going to be impossible to predict now, aren't they? Well surely that's a good thing, right? I think the ratios make a lot of sense anyway.
June 24, 20187 yr Hopefully with this change, artists will invest more into making actually decent music videos. The big pop artists have been failing in that department lately. Apart from new bands who can't afford it :(
June 24, 20187 yr Apart from new bands who can't afford it :( You can still make a decent video without a big budget! I doubt Dua Lipa's 'New Rules' was THAT expensive to make and that was one of the biggest video's last year.
June 24, 20187 yr Unofficial or user-generated content featuring music will not count towards the chart. Um what?! This seems like a terrible, terrible idea. Here comes a rant (although there is a chance I'm mis-interpreting this, but I think the idea of counting streams only from channels run by major record labels and not by "normal" people is awful): This unofficial lyric video of Dua Lipa - New Rules has 77 million views: This trap remix if New Rules has 46 million views: Even if UK streams are less than 10% of those, that's an awful lot of streams not counted by the UK charts... And those are only two of the biggest videos. If we include all the onofficial remixes and unofficial lyrics videos, we're talking about hundreds of millions of streams (globally, but still a shit-load for the UK), not counted by the OCC. Do people really think people watch the fan-made lyric video just to appreciate the font? Or to appreciate the shade of brown used for the background? Of course people are watching this video for the song. Saying people only play this video for the visuals is like saying people only buy albums to look at the album covers and read the booklets. This puts pressure on every mainstream artist (who cares about the UK charts at least) to have lyric videos and to put them on their official Youtube channels, or else fans will make lyrics videos and steal the streams, streams that won't be eligible for the UK charts. And we'll have this situation of Little Mix, Ariana Grande, whoever else's fans, complaining all the time because the record label never put a lyric video on their official channel for whatever their current single is and a fan-made lyric video managed to get 100 million streams. I can imagine them saying for years "This would have got to #1 if the OCC counted the streams from the unofficial lyric videos". And it hurts dance music as well. There are so many unofficial dance music channels on Youtube where they upload new songs and remixes (often submitted by normal people like you and me), where they can get a lot of views, but they're not going to be counted now? They count them for the US chart, and honestly they make practically no difference, but in the UK they could make a difference as dance music is bigger here. Gorgon City & Duke Dumont - Real Life got 5.1 million streams on an unofficial channel that had no visuals on the video, and 2.9 million streams on the music video on it's official channel. Are the OCC going to count Spinnin' Records, Subsoul, Trap Nation, Selected. (this is the channel that the Real Life audio got lots of streams from), Chill Nation, etc. as "official" or not? I'm pretty sure some of these big channels (there are dozens of them) are run by a random guy living in his mother's basement. Maybe some of them have made loads of money off them and can pay the OCC to be counted as official, or have sold them off to major record labels, but you get my point. Will the OCC count these? And someone said it will help Indie music. Well, possibly, if they're signed to a major record label who have given them an account connected to VEVO. But what happens if a group of guys from Manchester start a band, record a song, put it on Youtube and it goes viral. Will the OCC not count this? Will they be forced to sign to a record label to be counted in the charts? If they can get the song on iTunes and Spotify, will the downloads and Spotify streams count, but in Youtube's database it will show up as 0 Youtube streams because it's coming from an "unofficial" music channel? Billboard in the US count everything (official and unofficial Youtube streams), and they don't seem to have any problems. There were a few strange things early on, but I can think of hardly anything in the the past couple of years. I would like to know their reasoning. I suspect that major record companies did this because they want to keep power over the music industry and more control over what charts. They obviously bribe whoever determines what's in the Spotify playlists, now they're saying that only the Youtube channels that THEY upload to can be used for counting towards the chart? Either that, or the OCC is scared of a song getting high up the charts once every 2 years because of being used in the background of an advert on Youtube? Well it happens all the time in the iTunes charts that songs go high because of use in adverts. Are they scared that cover versions that go viral on Youtube will get into the charts? That happened all the time in the past with fake cover versions of songs charting. And you know what, maybe it would have been kind of nice, and technically more accurate, if Pixie Lott and Conor Maynard's cover version of Despacito made the top 40 last year, as is got 127 million streams? Are they scared that people will try and manipulate the charts through Youtube? I'm sure there were about 30 Facebook campaigns to effect the charts in the early half of the decade. We survived weekly Glee Cast dominations and millions of charity songs going to #1 and Precision Tunes going top 10 and Ding Dong The Witch is Dead and all these boybands getting artificially high chart positions, and now the OCC are scared of counting unofficial Youtube streams because a "Soko situation" might happen once every 2 years. Seems odd to me. I hope I'm mis-interpreting this. But I'm not sure what else they could mean by "unofficial" or "user-generated" other than "Anything that's not controlled by a major record label"? Because, for example, if we started a "Buzzjack Song Contest" channel where we uploaded the audio of every song submitted into the contest, and some of them went viral and got 10s of millions of views, how else would the OCC decide if we counted as "official" or not? Edited June 24, 20187 yr by Eric_Blob
June 24, 20187 yr You can still make a decent video without a big budget! I doubt Dua Lipa's 'New Rules' was THAT expensive to make and that was one of the biggest video's last year. It was also the best video of the year (Sorry Sam)
June 24, 20187 yr Surely they wouldn't implement this unless they knew that it would reduce the sameness of the charts? That's what I'm hoping anyway. (and I think certain indie songs do well on YouTube so that's a bonus) I assume they will have recompiled charts using youtube data to see how much effect it has. That is probably true but at least premium users can skip songs they don't like in playlists, free users are stuck with whatever comes on. There will be loads of songs that get streams they probably don't deserve because people can't skip them, so it doesn't necessarily reflect the true popularity of a track. I listen to all the main playlists but I skip a lot too, so it is only right imo that paid user streams are given more weight in the chart as it does closer represent what songs are actually really well liked. So it should hopefully result in a more accurate chart. I use free Spotify and skip songs on playlists all the time. I just click on the next song I want to hear :unsure:
June 24, 20187 yr It was also the best video of the year (Sorry Sam) No x (I'll give it 2nd best tho probs haha *.*)
June 24, 20187 yr You can still make a decent video without a big budget! I doubt Dua Lipa's 'New Rules' was THAT expensive to make and that was one of the biggest video's last year. That's fine for an established artist, but no good for a relatively unknown act.
June 24, 20187 yr I use free Spotify and skip songs on playlists all the time. I just click on the next song I want to hear :unsure: Yeah you can do that on a computer but you can't skip songs on playlists on the mobile app
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