I don't see why there's a debate to be had. If words are bleeped/edited out that are derogatory/offensive in other songs being played on radio, then so should a word which is derogatory/offensive towards gay people regardless of context or success of the song. There shouldn't be one rule for x and another for y - all songs played on radio should abide by the same set of rules.

The last few posts have been laughable in their ignorance. Tough luck gays!

 

The point that keeps getting ignored: Profanity, regardless of context, gets bleeped on the radio during the day.

 

There is no reason this song should be treated differently. None.

Edited December 8, 20186 yr by blacksquare

I remember the last time this debate flared up I was still in the closet so I was really pro not censoring it as a way of 'fitting in' with my family who were really anti-censoring it. As the years have passed though, I feel like straight people just like the excuse to say a 'naughty' word that they know they couldn't/shouldn't say in a normal context and I find it cringey when it comes on and the straights shout it out and look at you awkwardly.

I've never been offended by it tbh, but then again I rarely listen to it as I think it's a piss poor song.

 

I do think it should be censored however, not because I am offended by it, but simply because they censor the 'N' word in rap songs, they censor swear words like 'bitch' 'f***' etc, so why should it be any different for this song?

 

If people are so up in arms about them censoring it Radio 1 should have just stopped playing it altogether I'm a bit annoyed they caved in.

So, I've carefully read this thread and in my opinion, there is no need to censor the f word in this song.

 

Words can have several different meanings. Some of those meanings are positive, some neutral and some negative. The context the word was used in tells us which meaning applies in every individual case.

 

In this song, I think meaning of the 'f*****' is 'a lazy person'. It makes the most sense. I see no reason why the word 'f*****' should be censored in this context.

 

I understand some gay people don't want to hear the f word in any context, but tough luck, many people hate/get triggered by certain words and most of those words never get censored. FONY was never meant to be a cheerful, syrupy, 'all bells, candy canes, presents and christmas trees' kind of a Christmas song. It should be left as it is. If you don't like it, don't listen to it.

Personally, I don't like word censoring in songs, period. If the songs has words censored, I always opt for the uncensored version. If I like the song, I continue listening to the uncensored version. If I don't like the song, I don't listen to the song period.

You've read the thread so carefully that you missed the stories that some members gay friends have experienced about groups of people or individuals shouting the word AT THEM through singing this song coz it's deemed "allowed"? :lol:

 

I still can't believe people are still having the debate and somehow STILL missing the point that it's got nothing to do with banning the song, just that the words should be censored out, just like it is in every other song.

 

The whole context argument is weak. It doesn't matter what the context is, it's profanity and iain is spot on about it being the same group of people who'd moan if they heard an Eminem song on the radio uncensored and was exposed to their child.

 

I'm willing to bet that unless they googled it, majority of people nowadays wouldn't associate it with "being lazy" and would definitely associate it as the homophobic slur.

I remember the last time this debate flared up I was still in the closet so I was really pro not censoring it as a way of 'fitting in' with my family who were really anti-censoring it. As the years have passed though, I feel like straight people just like the excuse to say a 'naughty' word that they know they couldn't/shouldn't say in a normal context and I find it cringey when it comes on and the straights shout it out and look at you awkwardly.

 

I'm in favour of censoring all offensive words on radio.

 

But as a 'straight' person I have listened to this song all my life and never even thought about the word in question (probably because I'm straight) and never ever use it 'as an excuse' to shout out the word never mind shouting it out aggressively at a group of gay people. Yes some might but I would never do that.