Honestly, Sweet But Psycho sounds like a novelty track to me so I can't really take it seriously. I was hoping Ariana would stay at #1 but not to be, don't really care between the other two because one is a novelty track and one sounds like one to me, even if apparently it is a serious pop song. Therefore, supporting LadBaby on the basis that at least it is for charity.

Edited December 20, 20187 yr by FleetSeb

I knew when there had been 7 pages of discussion today after coming home from work something was clearly up on BJ :lol:

 

Fair play to Ladbaby it will be a memorable no1 announcement and hopefully both Ava and Mark Cyrus can hit the top spot in January as both have plenty of life left in them!

 

 

No I totally understood your point, I knew it was hyperbolic but even with exaggerating, you're arguing that those who download aren't a significant part of the music consuming audience that makes up the chart. It's short-sighted, especially when you look at Kworb and see that Sweet But Psycho is selling roughly four times as much as thank u, next. Couple that with a difference of only ~50k on Spotify, and Ava is quite easily ahead. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept to grasp?

 

I agree that there's a significantly higher number of people who stream over those who buy, but that doesn't mean we can ignore the latter and say it's irrelevant. But it seems you're not open to discussing this topic if you're giving us that attitude about the previous debate.

 

Exactly the whole reason we have SCR and ACR is because streaming a song every day for 6 months isn't the same value as buying the track outright so something had to be done to equal this out and speed up the chart.

So is it confirmed that Ladbaby will be #1 even with almost non-existent streaming?

This could be the last stand for downloads affecting the chart- in 2 (maybe even 1) years time, iTunes could very well be dead. Though I can't say I like the song, nice to see a novelty track getting the Christmas #1 for what might be the last time!

Edited December 20, 20187 yr by Tedward

So are you sis. But next time try to go for a reasonable argument instead of the dumb personal attack.

 

It was more of an observation than a personal attack.

 

But what you're essentially saying is that the charts should be fiddled or amended in your favour, downloads are still a legitimate consumption of music and still count (you know, on a platform where people are actually choosing the music they consume and purchase). Besides, even on streaming Ariana is gradually collapsing and Ava is gradually growing (and there's not exactly a lot of difference at this point), so I can't see how Ava wouldn't deserve it if she finished ahead.

This week has been great, may not be the result everyone wants but it's got people talking again which is great. My preferred top 3 would be Ari, Ava and Ladboy but oh well.

 

 

100 posts late but I don't see any similarities between Poker Face/Paparazzi and Sweet But Psycho aside from them both being by female pop singers... they're all completely different songs.

Are there people REALLY getting uptight about a novelty song being #1? Lighten up jesus christ

Does anyone know what number Cher is in the albums? Thank you!

Hopefully top 65

^ !!!

 

She's Top 60 again.

Are there people REALLY getting uptight about a novelty song being #1? Lighten up jesus christ

 

This. People complain about the charts being boring & the #1 being too predictable for weeks on end, now we have a genuinely exciting chart battle again and now it's because it's not the result people want.

 

I think it's great that a song like this can come out of nowhere & upset the odds no matter its quality. And it's for a good cause!

100 posts late but I don't see any similarities between Poker Face/Paparazzi and Sweet But Psycho aside from them both being by female pop singers... they're all completely different songs.

 

Disagree, not completely similar but impossible to deny some similarities.

It's not exactly a direct copy but I think it's a bit disingenuous to deny that there's any similarity between 'Sweet But Psycho' and those Gaga songs.

It's not exactly a direct copy but I think it's a bit disingenuous to deny that there's any similarity between 'Sweet But Psycho' and those Gaga songs.

I can see how someone would associate Ava with that Gaga era but I'd argue that "Sweet But Psycho" doesn't take more than a tiny bit of influence, if any, from "Poker Face". It's definitely unique enough for someone to listen to the song 10 times without noticing any Gaga similarities.

Are there people REALLY getting uptight about a novelty song being #1? Lighten up jesus christ

Well, you're on a chart music forum. Ofc you're gonna get people being happy, unhappy and passionate with what does and doesn't do well in the charts. :lol:

 

For me, in all honesty I wouldn't mind as much if it wasn't at Ava's expense :lol: Like, I'd probably deal with it better if it was 01. Ladbaby, 02. Ariana & 03. Ava haha :ph34r: Ava's already far exceeded my expectations chart success wise though. I just feel like her shot at number 1 is almost over (even if she increases etc..) isn't there rumours of Post Malone releasing before the end of the year is over/early next year? If true I could see a Ladbaby/Mariah/Post (9 weeks) turn over at number 1.

I feel as though Ava will get at least a week at the top! Ideally we'll have a Ladbaby/Mariah/Ava/Miley/Post turnover - I don't think Post Malone will be an instant #1, probably a #3 debut and potentially climbig to the top after.

Well, you're on a chart music forum. Ofc you're gonna get people being happy, unhappy and passionate with what does and doesn't do well in the charts. :lol:

 

For me, in all honesty I wouldn't mind as much if it wasn't at Ava's expense :lol: Like, I'd probably deal with it better if it was 01. Ladbaby, 02. Ariana & 03. Ava haha :ph34r: Ava's already far exceeded my expectations chart success wise though. I just feel like her shot at number 1 is almost over (even if she increases etc..) isn't there rumours of Post Malone releasing before the end of the year is over/early next year? If true I could see a Ladbaby/Mariah/Post (9 weeks) turn over at number 1.

 

I could maybe even see Mark Ronson + Miley perhaps growing enough to overtake Ava after Christmas.

I would have never thought that Ariana was in danger this week in the first place but I think the release of Imagine might have hurt TUN just too much. It's a surprising week for sure.