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I am le sniggering to myself quietly at the Zayn midweek :lol: And to think everyone thought he'd be the breakout star from 1D when Niall's managed to place a live album in Ireland's top 20 albums this week.

 

Interesting to see a small battle developing between Ava Max and Ariana Grande. It would be nice to see Ava take it just because I love an unpredictable surprise at Christmas. For me, nothing will top the humiliation Westlife suffered at the hands of Bob The Builder in 2000. They'd got so smug having seven number ones in a row and their song ('What Makes A Man', I think? It was textbook dull ballad anyway) was absolutely thrashed by 'Can We Fix It'. So very British a defeat :D

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I am le sniggering to myself quietly at the Zayn midweek :lol: And to think everyone thought he'd be the breakout star from 1D when Niall's managed to place a live album in Ireland's top 20 albums this week.

 

Interesting to see a small battle developing between Ava Max and Ariana Grande. It would be nice to see Ava take it just because I love an unpredictable surprise at Christmas. For me, nothing will top the humiliation Westlife suffered at the hands of Bob The Builder in 2000. They'd got so smug having seven number ones in a row and their song ('What Makes A Man', I think? It was textbook dull ballad anyway) was absolutely thrashed by 'Can We Fix It'. So very British a defeat :D

 

PREACH!! That shite karaoke band deserved it.

 

No CD in the only time of the year CDs rule is mind boggling. However maybe they wanted this so him flopping had an excuse or reason.

 

Maybe they spent all of their budget on the campaign already and couldn't afford to lose more money?

Shame the general public don't really care about the Xmas number one anymore, a close battle like this would have had people salivating in the past.

 

Makes the motivation behind the whole Rage Against The Machine campaign seem almost wasted, everyone wanted the Xmas number one back from the grip of X Factor, well they've got it...and it's been greeted with tumbleweed and shrugs of indifference all round ever since...

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PREACH!! That shite karaoke band deserved it.

 

For me, it's why I've always loved the UK charts. Because like with a lot of things, we never take ourselves too seriously. Yes we'll usually follow what other countries are into, but by and large only we could ever get away with having Mr Blobby etc at the top in December. The only other near comparable market is Ireland, who've given chart toppers to Dustin The Turkey or Pat Shortt!

Spotify and Apple music have just moved Ava to #1 on Hot Hits UK (Spotify) and Todays Hits (Apple Music)

 

Surely Payola must be going on! It's strange how Hot Hits has updated on a monday.. :lol:

Shame the general public don't really care about the Xmas number one anymore, a close battle like this would have had people salivating in the past.

 

Makes the motivation behind the whole Rage Against The Machine campaign seem almost wasted, everyone wanted the Xmas number one back from the grip of X Factor, well they've got it...and it's been greeted with tumbleweed and shrugs of indifference all round ever since...

 

I think as others have pointed out in recent days, it's not so much indifference from the public, more record companies still figuring out how to find a way to make the Christmas chart matter in the age of streaming when there's still a small minority of people who haven't yet made the full time leap to Spotify et al. I'd like to think that these next two years coming will be when streaming really reaches mass consumption point and we'll see a quicker turnover of number ones and sales equivalent streams in the 100k+ bracket.

Record label must be really trying for the #1 this week then, especially as Ava getting Xmas #1 would give her a little bit more publicity.

I still think Ariana will have it, but it could be a close race.

I don't know...I just don't see it coming back around to be a big deal again any time soon.

 

The silly season element of songs that just wouldn't wash any other time of the year, and the high profile battles were a big part of the fun of the Xmas number one. The public has got to have a reason to care and that often used to be because the Xmas Number One used to entice people that didn't usually buy records. Usually either through novelty or charity records or fanbase-led battles, all of which streaming has effectively killed off.

 

I struggle to see many people getting too engaged with battles between various songs that have already been in the chart for weeks and are tailing off as Christmas comes around, having long faded from their cultural peak, and of which thank u, next is essentially a case in point. It's running on fumes in my opinion, it was everywhere a month ago but it doesn't feel as huge now and it seems odd to still have it at No.1.

I miss the days of actual, good novelty. :( The LadBaby thing is genuinely one of the worst things I have ever heard. I don't care that it's for charity or "for the lolzzzzz".

 

Bring back Geraldine McQueen *.*

I want Ava to hold on and get that Xmas #1 single. As for TGS, I hope it gets left behind in 2018 when the year is over

COME ON AVA :cheer: :wub:

 

Still think there's loads of data missing but so pleased to hear it in the mids at 1.

Just 508 combined sales behind LadBaby is last week’s Number 1, thank u, next by Ariana Grande, while her brand-new track imagine is new at Number 4.

 

Source: OCC

Ariana currently 1.5k behind Ava then. Last week she started 3.8k ahead in the first mids and that grew to 8.7k by the end of the week. Still think she'll probably hang on but suddenly less confident... at least until the next mids.

http://i.imgur.com/zf9EQCp.png

 

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100

Source: OCC

Missing Data:

 

Top 100 Singles

 

1 Ava Max - Sweet But Psycho (17,732)

2 LadBaby - We Built This City * (16,754)

3 Ariana Grande - thank u, next (16,246)

4 Ariana Grande - imagine * (12,922)

5 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You (11,998)

 

6-10

9 The Pogues - Fairytale Of New York (feat. Kirsty MacColl)

 

11-20

12 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

15 Flakefleet Primary - Light Up *

17 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep

18 Elton John - Step Into Christmas

20 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone

 

21-30

22 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree

23 Chris Rea - Driving Home For Christmas

24 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

25 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday

29 John & Yoko - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) ^

 

31-40

31 James Arthur - Empty Space

32 Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime ^

34 George Ezra - Shotgun

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Top 100 Albums

 

1 Motion Picture Cast Recording - The Greatest Showman (24,888)

2 Bruce Springsteen - Springsteen On Broadway * (23,094)

3 Michael Bublé - love (21,419)

4 George Ezra - Staying At Tamara's (19,100)

5 Roy Orbison with the RPO - Unchained Melodies (17,160)

 

6-10

8 Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop

9 Motion Picture Cast Recording - A Star Is Born

 

11-20

13 Jess Glynne - Always In Between

15 Buddy Holly with the RPO - True Love Ways

17 Paul Heaton - The Last King Of Pop

 

21-30

22 Boyzone - Thank You & Goodnight

24 Motion Picture Cast Recording - Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again

29 Rita Ora - Phoenix

 

31-40

32 Alfie Boe - As Time Goes By

33 Barbra Streisand - Walls

34 Ariana Grande - sweetener

35 Kylie Minogue - Golden ^

36 The Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album)

 

Click on the above relevant links.

I'm surprised there's such a gap between Flakefleet (#15) and Fire Tones (#67), especially since I believe Fire Tones had a physical CD available. Beginning their campaign on a Wednesday has really ruined their chances.

 

I guess Ladbaby being at #2 could motivate people to try and get it up to #1 so I wouldn't rule him out.

 

Oh and Little Mix look likely to be the first act to fall out of the Top 40 from the Top 10 after hitting ACR.

I really want Ava to hold on, but with data missing I can see Ariana re-taking it

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