I also feel that a system of preferential voting/runoff votes, rather than simple Ayes/Noes, could help resolve the deadlock here.

I also feel that a system of preferential voting/runoff votes, rather than simple Ayes/Noes, could help resolve the deadlock here.

 

I really don’t know why they didn’t do this in the first place

I can’t believe the voting from some of the People’s Vote champions.

 

We’re stuck with a Parliament that won’t compromise at any angle.

I really don’t know why they didn’t do this in the first place

 

Because that in itself would have to be voted on through the Aye/No system, and they are so busy giving us a proper decisive Brexit that they don't have time for such pointless messing around.

I also feel that a system of preferential voting/runoff votes, rather than simple Ayes/Noes, could help resolve the deadlock here.

 

But to cover all the bases, they'd have to include a 'No Deal' one, but that's anaethema to the HoC Remainers...

...so it won't pass the House. Glad we can agree on something.

 

The only way No Deal is happening is if the House, through indecision, lets the nation walk into it on April 12th. Which is looking more likely.

PM statement soon. Lecturn being set up inside No.10 as it's showery weather. Will she resign, announce an election or MV4? :o

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It better not be a damp squid of a statement where she doesn't say anything new ie my deal or nothing, you sorry sausages.

And it was. Apart from Theresa May calling for an extension to Article 50 and trying to have a formal agreement with Corbyn, it was more of the same.

And it was. Apart from Theresa May calling for an extension to Article 50 and trying to have a formal agreement with Corbyn, it was more of the same.

 

Reckon she'll have a go at her own Deal with a Customs Union tacked on?

 

At least it looks like No Deal is going to be avoided, which is the main thing I am concerned about. Still got seen one convincing, logical argument for it apart from "we're prepared" for it. Just depends whether Jezza decides to meet with her.. it could be the ultimate double bluff to get No Deal through.

I've seen two differing opinions on May's decision to open her arms to Jeremy Corbyn, one cynical, and one election-losingly foolish.

 

On the cynical side - Theresa May has realised that the Conservatives have been tainted by the Brexit chaos, and by getting Labour on board, it will spread the muck evenly, meaning that both the major parties will be equally seen as "to blame" if Brexit goes kaput.

 

On the election-losingly foolish side - Theresa May is now being seen to reach out to a man the Tories have been calling dangerous, foolish, and someone who is not fit to lead the country. Now that she is opening her arms to Corbyn, she runs the risk of making Corbyn seem like a political equal to Theresa May, therefore making the idea of him as a future PM seem more likely in the public's mind. As someone I saw commented on Twitter, if he rocks up to Number 10 in a smart suit, flanked by Thornberry & Abbott to meet May, the image of him as a future leader of the country will be imprinted on the British public's mind.

I favour the later, personally though I would t go near the tories - it's their f*** up from the very beginning (and I mean from the 80s!)

The Scottish Conservatives seemingly think an election is imminent as campaign material is already being delivered to targeted constituencies!

The Scottish Conservatives seemingly think an election is imminent as campaign material is already being delivered to targeted constituencies!

 

I very much doubt it. From all I've read a 2nd Referendum is more likely than an election for two reasons -

 

1) the Tory corporate donarships have dried up (because businesses favour staying in the EU), so they don't have enough money

2) they genuinely think they would not be able to get a majority

 

Right now I think we'll either have a 2nd Referendum or May will sneakily get her shit deal through.

or alternatively it would have passed if 10 Labour MPs had not voted against. Very selective view of a voting procedure when pointing the finger. Why not praise 37 Tories who voted FOR it? why not slag off the SNP for abstaining? Or the DUP for voting against? Or Caroline Lucas? Only needed 2 to switch....

 

Or alternatively 9 of the 11 TIG (now CUK) who voted against, voted in favour of EEA membership in June 2018.

 

They have in my mind no opposition to either CU or Common Market 2.0 but oppose it for opposing's sake - just as bad as the Tories. Where is the spirit of compromise? At least the SNP had the decency to abstain... if they'd have joined them ( which wouldn't have even required them supporting it ) we would have had a majority last night.

 

As Harve says though - pretty clear that there could be majority support for both of those deals and I still believe that is where we ultimately will end up.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/a...public-interest

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*Waits for BB to post a clip of Yes Minister*

Well a customs union is one of the few things that would gain a majority. Soft brexit looks a lot more likely then.

 

@1113434288396148736

 

*Waits for BB to post a clip of Yes Minister*

 

Can't think of a specific moment in Yes (Prime) Minister that I could allude to. The closest I can think of is in the "Party Games" episode, where a new EEC directive means that the UK can't call sausages sausages due to their low meat content, and instead must call them "Emulsified high-fat offal tubes". Eventually Hacker reaches a compromise with the EEC - they will be allowed to be called "British Sausages".

 

I will post this clip (which I may have done before), where Sir Humphrey sets out the best possible reason for staying in the EU - to ruin it for every single other European country:

 

The Scottish Conservatives seemingly think an election is imminent as campaign material is already being delivered to targeted constituencies!

They probably got a bulk deal at a printers, seeing as they only have one policy "NO INDYREF2!!!1!1!!" for every election at every level they can print their material decades in advance and it'll never go out of date.