You have been told repeatedly that it is the choice of the UK government not to enforce the EU freedom of movement rules appropriately.

 

If forced to pick between you and 20 million unskilled Europeans moving here tomorrow - I'd pick the 20 million unskilled Europeans. At least they contribute to society rather than leech it dry while complaining about migrants (like your own wife) who come here to make a better life for themselves while working hard and paying their taxes. Two things you know absolutely nothing about.

When will you get your head out your ass and actually do some bloody factual investigation of the Freedom of Movement rules. They're all in English on europa.eu for you to read. It's not as if you've anything else to do

 

 

I wish you'd stop making comments about my personal life which has nothing to do with the Brexit debate. :angry: I am unable to work due to illness, namely depression and am not skivving and refusing to work like some others

I wish you'd stop making comments about my personal life which has nothing to do with the Brexit debate. :angry: I am unable to work due to illness, namely depression and am not skivving and refusing to work like some others

 

Any thoughts on Boris' behavior?

 

No of course not.

I wish you'd stop making comments about my personal life which has nothing to do with the Brexit debate. :angry: I am unable to work due to illness, namely depression and am not skivving and refusing to work like some others

 

 

You're calling out people who work hard and pay tax, when you yourself don't pay a penny.

 

Obviously...you are going to get called out.

The comments and attitude from the PM in the HoC yesterday was, quite frankly, disgusting. I do think though that both sides are as bad as each other, and that the spirit of compromise should have been sought a long time ago to bring the country back together - sadly we are too far past this point now and those on both sides are just becoming more entrenched in their views.

The comments and attitude from the PM in the HoC yesterday was, quite frankly, disgusting. I do think though that both sides are as bad as each other, and that the spirit of compromise should have been sought a long time ago to bring the country back together - sadly we are too far past this point now and those on both sides are just becoming more entrenched in their views.

 

No. Tories and Bojo are far far faar worse. There is no moral equivalence here.

 

The comments and attitude from the PM in the HoC yesterday was, quite frankly, disgusting. I do think though that both sides are as bad as each other, and that the spirit of compromise should have been sought a long time ago to bring the country back together - sadly we are too far past this point now and those on both sides are just becoming more entrenched in their views.

 

I don't find this both sides argument applicable anymore — one side is using language that continuously encourages the threat of ring-wing violence. One side is labeling opposing ideologies as traitors and so on.

 

Labour and the left might be excessive, irritating, and inept at times but it's dangerous and disingenuous to say that both sides are as bad as each other.

 

What possessed him to think that would be a good idea? :huh:

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Probably stuff like this. 'She was a traitor to this country, glad she's dead', 'justice was done', etc.

Vidcapper tried to say Tories and Bojo aren't far right. After last night's episode, would you like to repeat that assertion?

You don't think 'Boris should be in prison' is equitable ? Ok..

 

@BlackSquare

You don't think 'Boris should be in prison' is equitable ? Ok..

 

@BlackSquare

 

He lied to the queen and broke the law. At the very least he should resign, which is all Labour have called for.

Oh my god. It's getting worse. They've put Brexshit propaganda in 3000 primary schools!! More nazi propaganda tactics from the Brexshit right wing.

You don't think 'Boris should be in prison' is equitable ? Ok..

 

@BlackSquare

 

Boris was unanimously found to have acted unlawfully by the highest court in the country just two days ago. So, other than not understanding constitutional law, no.

 

One side inciting hatred in MPs and encouraging violence — whether they mean to or not — is just not comparable

Edited September 26, 20195 yr by blacksquare

Boris was unanimously found to have acted unlawfully by the highest court in the country just two days ago. So, other than not understanding constitutional law, no.

 

One side inciting hatred in MPs and encouraging violence — whether they mean to or not — is just not comparable

 

Acted unlawfully and breaking the law are different. Trump incites chants of 'LOCK HER UP' and that is not ok, but as long as it is directed against someone that you fundamentally disagree with that's fine then is it?

Do we reaaaally think these professional MPs are ignorant of the type of language they use? I think it's much more likely that they know exactly what they're doing.

Acted unlawfully and breaking the law are different. Trump incites chants of 'LOCK HER UP' and that is not ok, but as long as it is directed against someone that you fundamentally disagree with that's fine then is it?

 

A few left wing memes isn't the ssme as the opposition officially calling for it aka Trump. They just said he should resign. I haven't said he should be in jail and neither have the majority of people on the left. It's really really not comparable. Why people like you still cling to this delusion of "both are just as bad" I do not know :rofl: That has never ever been the case in history anyway. The posh right would still have you in chimneys and workhouses if the left hadn't forced them not to x

Acted unlawfully and breaking the law are different. Trump incites chants of 'LOCK HER UP' and that is not ok, but as long as it is directed against someone that you fundamentally disagree with that's fine then is it?

 

If Corbyn or the left were inciting chants like Trump then it would clearly be unacceptable. I'm not saying the opposition or the left is blameless. Far from it.

 

MPs need to work on their conduct, but to say years of continuous inflammatory and far-right friendly language is just as bad is insincere.

 

Jo Cox was murdered and nothing changed. These arguments are dangerous because it allows the right to worsen their language and become more unacceptable — but we allow it because 'the other side is just as bad'.

Edited September 26, 20195 yr by blacksquare

Let me be completely clear, I do not in any way find the language used by the PM acceptable - nor justify its use because of equally abusive behaviour intended to incite violence from the other side (e.g. Slowthai holding up a severed head of Boris Johnson at the Mercury Music Award Ceremony). Merely that we must accept that this is coming from both sides and we need to resolve and heal these divisions.

Its a good sentiment but also it is calling on those on the left and those who are minorities and victims to take the high moral ground and meet their bullies in the middle. At what point is that not validating them? Some views should just not be acceptable.

 

I understand the spirit of compromise but in practise it starts to sometimes feel more like placation.

People have strong reactions to far right policies and politicians. Just look at history to see why.

 

It is the far right that is out of control. There is no both sides are bad. No. That's wrong. The onus is alll on the Tories to get their house in order.

People have strong reactions to far right policies and politicians. Just look at history to see why.

 

It is the far right that is out of control. There is no both sides are bad. No. That's wrong. The onus is alll on the Tories to get their house in order.

 

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