IN case anyone is wondering, I think Boris proroging parliament was OTT.

As I said earlier, one of the worst parts of it is that it sets a precedent. Even some Tory MPs seem to have worked that out.

As I said earlier, one of the worst parts of it is that it sets a precedent. Even some Tory MPs seem to have worked that out.

 

 

How can it set a precedant when it's been done before? Even Major did it. Not for as long but he still did it.

How can it set a precedant when it's been done before? Even Major did it. Not for as long but he still did it.

It hasn't been done to frustrate the will of parliament. This sets a very dangerous precedent.

How can it set a precedant when it's been done before? Even Major did it. Not for as long but he still did it.

 

Oh LORD.

 

Brainwashed.

How can it set a precedant when it's been done before? Even Major did it. Not for as long but he still did it.

He did it right before an election, not to prevent parliament from making one of the most important decisions that it will ever take.

That's the problem when you have no written constitution

How can it set a precedant when it's been done before? Even Major did it. Not for as long but he still did it.

 

Longest since WW2.

 

Come on. Do the maths. If every political expert is telling you it's unconsritutional and unlrecedented, you should listen to them and not lying politicians. Btw, those same Tories said the SAME as the experts ... till Bojo the Tinpot Clown decided to suspend the parliament of the people.

That's the problem when you have no written constitution

 

There's a difference between 'no written constitution' and no constitution at all, though - surely no-one here is foolish enough to believe the latter?

Anyone else think that Boris actually WANTS a general election? That's certainly the impression I get.

 

Clearly going for the PR orchestrated by Cummings. Definitely think it looks like an election is happening though...

He clearly wants one and will use this proeogue parliament business to purge the Tory rebels out the party and replace them with landed gentry yes men. He will have a people v parliament election narrative too and an I'll see brexshit through - he started it, he'll finish it line. He uses Trump's trick of what he says he doesn't want he wants and what he says he wants he doesn't.

He clearly wants one and will use this proeogue parliament business to purge the Tory rebels out the party and replace them with landed gentry yes men. He will have a people v parliament election narrative too and an I'll see brexshit through - he started it, he'll finish it line. He uses Trump's trick of what he says he doesn't want he wants and what he says he wants he doesn't.

 

I think he wants one as I truly believe it is the only way to get us out of the EU for 31st October. I read the below in The Times earlier- very interesting. It's a risky strategy especially if the Remain side agree on a strategy to not stand in marginals. He's obviously working on winning the Brexit Vote, but for that to happen he's going to have to get in to bed with Farage and I think the point about a lot of moderate Conservatives then standing as Independents is a real possibility.

 

Now Downing Street is preparing for a general election, with a series of populist spending pledges. Mr Johnson seems to relish the prospect of a “people versus parliament” campaign but one cabinet minister acknowledges that it would be “incredibly risky” for him to go to the polls. Labour has made clear that it would not support an election if it meant the country crashing out on October 31 and so the Tories might still have the Brexit Party snapping at their heels.

 

If the prime minister forces all his candidates to back a “no deal” Brexit, dozens of moderates are considering standing as independent Conservatives, which would further split the Tory vote. Even ministers would find it difficult to sign up to such a pledge that would alienate the five million Conservative voters who supported Remain. With Ruth Davidson no longer leading the Scottish Tories, the Conservative Party could be wiped out in Scotland, while also losing seats to the Liberal Democrats in the south west of England.

 

According to one insider, Number 10 has been polling “culture war” issues, such as transgender rights, to see whether they can be weaponised against Labour in northern working-class constituencies but this would only reinforce the Tories’ reputation among metropolitan liberals as the “nasty party”. A former cabinet minister fears the Conservative Party could be destroyed. “The country is now divided along the lines of Leave or Remain, not left or right, and we could end up being smashed.”

 

This might not bother Mr Cummings, who has expressed his contempt for the Tories in the past, but it worries Tory politicians. One backbencher says that getting Conservative MPs to support an early general election “is the modern day political equivalent of the 1970s Jonestown mass suicide [in which cult followers took their own lives on the orders of their leader]” and more are coming to the conclusion that they would prefer a second referendum to resolve the Brexit crisis.

He's obviously working on winning the Brexit Vote, but for that to happen he's going to have to get in to bed with Farage and I think the point about a lot of moderate Conservatives then standing as Independents is a real possibility.

 

Its all about strategy. The Conservative leadership probably feel they have no choice but to go down the route they are taking to 'save' the party.

Yes, he clearly wants a General Election - and because Corbyn has been droning on about it for the best part of 2 years, it's very likely he'll get it.

 

A high risk strategy, as the Maybot soon found out in June 2017.

The Banter Era dictates that if Johnson calls a General Election, then Labour will win with near to a working majority with Comrade Corbyn as the new Prime Minister (regardless of what the opinion polls currently say, as I've mentioned before, they're only really worth looking at a few days before polling day), so Johnson should be careful what he wishes for.

 

 

Yes, he clearly wants a General Election - and because Corbyn has been droning on about it for the best part of 2 years, it's very likely he'll get it.

 

A high risk strategy, as the Maybot soon found out in June 2017.

 

It is as high risk as they come imo. I don't think the polls tell us anything really, but certainly to stop a majority the opposition need to work together for once and come to at least some sort of agreement in principal...

 

Guess we're either going to end up with No Deal or a 2nd Refendendum.. or a complete gridlock once again :D

This has been unbelievably orchestrated to create a Boris v the evil Parliament narrative for an election the government has wanted and been preparing for as soon as Boris was elected and as soon as he put together the most Hard Brexit Cabinet possible. It's been plainly clear with every decision and every move the government has made over the past month or so. He's been astute in always saying he didn't want an election so he could play the victim to impressionable voters who don't know any better when it looks like he's been forced into it by the evil democracy supporting MPs.

 

Sadly, Corbyn cannot play games like Boris and he's potentially been seriously outmanoeuvred into allowing a Tory majority at the election.

I’m loving Phillip Hammond being more outspoken in the last WEEK than his entire time as Chancellor

 

He’s just asked Johnson, in writing, his proposals for the changes to the Withdrawal Agreement and what progress he has made since his trip to Berlin

Fiscal Phil has always been a total LEDGE, certainly a much better Chancellor than Gideon (George) Osborne.

Fiscal Phil has always been a total LEDGE, certainly a much better Chancellor than Gideon (George) Osborne.

 

And he also has the benefit of looking like what Brett Anderson will look like 15 years from now.

Gideon feels like a lifetime ago now

 

At least he provided us with this iconic moment