Here we go again! :o

The original referendum with more facts and no lies and no soundbires was 70% for membership. Oops. Sorry. Mwaa.

 

Wrong!

 

The 1975 referendum was *NOT* on whether we should join!

Except it was... The EU was just a natural evolution of the common market.

 

And it was 70%, a super majority, which is exactly what is needed?

 

Obviously people thought very differently before the Mureoch press started poisoning them against this project of peace.

Except it was... The EU was just a natural evolution of the common market.

 

And it was 70%, a super majority, which is exactly what is needed?

 

Obviously people thought very differently before the Mureoch press started poisoning them against this project of peace.

 

FFS, THERE IS NO PRESS CONSPIRACY! :wacko:

There is.

 

It is is the hands of billionaires and parrots the views of the billionaire owners. Whenever you accept or take on a position by the papers, you have just gobbled down the opinions of a few billionaires, like a hive mind. Sorry.

 

https://thenextweb.com/eu/2018/02/20/the-eu...s-about-the-eu/

Brexit deal has been done apparently..

@1184764705384124416

 

 

Edited October 17, 20195 yr by blacksquare

A deal the DUP is against? Lol.

 

Bojo was all blustser as usual. Weak deal.

The fact the DUP is against it is moot, now that they’re not relying on them for support in the C&S. the question is whether they can get the support in the HoC from Ex-Conservatives and Labour deal sympathisers. Sceptical Brett is sceptical, unless they can agree it put the issue of accepting the deal to a referendum

https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/17/jeremy-corby...aX6hkEwOIeXg2k0

 

Tear him a new one, Corbyn! :cheer:

 

Where are the Lib Dem, only Lib Dems can get us a 2nd rwf and arw against brexshit, trolls now?!

SNP confirms it will vote it down. Means that the rainbow block as a whole will tell it to f*** off.

 

This really is the stupidest thing he’s done yet from a Unionist perspective. Border in the Irish Sea speeds up Irish reunification and the special treatment for NI just writes every campaign leaflet for a GE and Indyref2020 for the SNP.

 

Deal itself is absolutely garbage. Fulfills none of the promises they made in the campaign and leaves us significantly worse off as a country.

 

 

Not that I entirely give a f***. As long as we’re either in the EU or in the transition arrangements on December 1st that’s all I care about. After that what this backwards shithole of a nation does is up to little England. I ain’t coming back

Bojo in 2018 contradicting the deal Bojo in 2019 made:

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/...4mugZIAKM-nhgTo

 

Yes Silas, but what about the people who CAN'T leave and for whon any Tory brexshit would make it emminently harder to leave? You shouldn't HAVE to be forced out your country over Brexshit zealots and hard rifht Tories.

Do I think this w*** deal will be approved on Saturday? Possibly. It wouldn't surprise me if MP's just want to get Brexit "done".

 

However, it's infinitely worse than the agreement we have now, will probably lead to break up of the UK, won't reduce immigration(it will still need to come from somewhere even if EU numbers taper off), and will leave most people worse off in the medium term.

 

This accomplishes nothing. All this teeth gnashing, and this deal is even worse than Mays.

 

It's embarrassing, but buffoons like Chris will sit on the sidelines and cheer Johnson on regardless because he can do no wrong in his eyes.

 

This country is so broken.

Edited October 17, 20195 yr by mald487

It's a football game to people like uncommon sense.

So now we have a deal worse than May that has been put in place for Johnson and the propaganda team to go ‘but we tried and for some unknown readon they refused it!!!1’

 

And MPs are expected to analyse something in 48 hours that will bring significant changes and consequences all for an artificial deadline.

SNP confirms it will vote it down. Means that the rainbow block as a whole will tell it to f*** off.

 

This really is the stupidest thing he’s done yet from a Unionist perspective. Border in the Irish Sea speeds up Irish reunification and the special treatment for NI just writes every campaign leaflet for a GE and Indyref2020 for the SNP.

 

Deal itself is absolutely garbage. Fulfills none of the promises they made in the campaign and leaves us significantly worse off as a country.

Not that I entirely give a f***. As long as we’re either in the EU or in the transition arrangements on December 1st that’s all I care about. After that what this backwards shithole of a nation does is up to little England. I ain’t coming back

 

I understand what you're saying and of course, we have the right to be frustrated with the prospect of self-destruction, but comments like that aren't fair to the people that aren't able to just leave. People shouldn't be forced out of their country because of a bad deal.

I understand what you're saying and of course, we have the right to be frustrated with the prospect of self-destruction, but comments like that aren't fair to the people that aren't able to just leave. People shouldn't be forced out of their country because of a bad deal.

 

Exactly what I just said :o

The deal is clearly terrible and worse than what Boris would have considered just a year ago. I'm concerned it will pass purely because of how desperate people and MPs are for the saga to end, despite getting Brexit 'done' like this just results in years of even more Brexit.

Edited October 17, 20195 yr by blacksquare

The majority of those people who can’t leave in England are the ones who enthusiastically voted for it. I struggle to have sympathy for the turkeys that vote for Christmas

What Brexiteers don't realise is that stopping freedom of movement only stops THEM leaving.

 

It doesn't stop anyone coming in except people from mainland Europe, and if England becomes a poorer and less welcoming country, why would they want to when they can just go to Paris or Berlin?

 

And if less immigrants come to do the low paid jobs from Poland and Romania, more will come from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.